$50 so you should be fine

Thanks for the info. 

Netting 1/4 of my usual income there is still a huge bummer.

Quote from: Mantis on December 16, 2016, 09:27

I was making in the $175-$200 range per month three months ago for the last couple of years.  Then a few months ago, my income was cut in half. I am now at $80 a month or so.  They definitely made some sort of search change or lost a c r a p load of buyers.

I am in the same boat! Almost identical to your numbers! 

Me too.  Was consistently making $300-400 or more a month there for several years, then a couple of months dropped to less than $200 and this month looks to be under $100.  Nevrr seen such a steep dropoff in so short a time anywhere! 

Never thought I'd have to ask, but whats their min payout per month?  I  may not make it. 

I was not offended. I don't think we hit the wall. It's was on the same time when they gone public and when they started to play with search engine. 


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Have you only seen the drop on SS?  I saw it pretty much everywhere.  Now tho,  Adobe/FT is picking up, so there is a bright spot.   If it continues I may start uploading there again.

I could swear I got a letter early this month from Istock stating that they had paid me for my Nov. earnings.  My reaction was surprise because they usually pay on the 25th, but with that being Christmas, and with the whole structure changing on the 23rd this month, I thought:  Okay, I guess they are paying early this month. 

Stupidly, I deleted the letter.  Now went to make my usual mid-month paypal withdrawal and the money isn't there. 

Did I misread the letter, and they were just giving me the total of the payout but not actually paying it?   Can't find anything on the site other than the usual "we will pay on the 25th of the month" statement, but often their pages take months to catch up with their new policies. 

Does anyone know when they are making payouts this month, or if they already did and I missed it? 

Quote from: cascoly on December 13, 2016, 19:19

Quote from: Misic on December 12, 2016, 21:40

This is not because of December!!! When they started to play with search engine and us couple years ago, this was ok mounth. Now it' about 75% lower.


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yet another case of post hoc ergo propter hoc

my dec sales are up 10% from 2015,  up over 50% from 2014!

but those numbers show why it's silly to do single month comparisons  - a last 6 mo average of 2016 over 2014 is up only 25%

unless  your sales are steady with little variance, single month sales are more likely to look like a picket fence

I just talked about December, but for couple of years my sales were dropped about 75% , but portfolio still growing.


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I started around the same time you did,  and having the same experience.   I say this not to offend you again, but to suggest we may have both hit the wall.  Believe me, I am not any happier about it than you.

One difference.   I gave up uploading after a year or two of losing money.  If I'm going to lose money anyway, I'd rather do it sitting on my a$$.

Quote from: Giveme5 on December 13, 2016, 09:33

Quote from: Misic on December 10, 2016, 17:55

Herrible month. It's 40% lower than two months ago!!!


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You need to compared apples to apples thus compare last year December to this year December.

I compared last year December, not to mention December over 8 year!!! I'm here very long, and was very successful. Now I can't say that.


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Join the club.  "WAS very successful " won't get you much sympathy around here.

I'd sure like to know when we're gonna get more money.

I am stuck on $88 dollars at Dreamstime.  It might be next year before I reach the $100 dollar mark. Now with this tax form--they do not accept hotmail account to correspond so I have to get a g-mail account to get information.  Has anyone tried calling their main office?  I will not get my blood pressure up dealing with this and hold back uploading for a while.

I know it's been said before, but it's about time DT lowered their min payout.  Sales are dropping there and no justification to keep it at $100 anymore.  Used to be I could earn that in a week.  Now I am lucky to earn it in a month.

FT does this neat little trick where they bury your work when you get emerald so your sales drop and overall earnings go down.  Great way of rewarding success - NOT.

Gee, I wonder why Yuri (along with at least 5 other top guys that used to be here regularly) don't bother to come around anymore?

People come, people go.  Usually it has more to do with whats going on in their life than anything said here. 

I think the main reason so many long time posters don't post is cuz micro is not profitable or exciting for top contributors anymore as they've watched their incomes wither away.

Anyone heard from Yuri Arcurs?  I see he has stopped doing anything with social media and was last here in August, if he doesn't have a secret alias.  He still has a tiny portfolio on DT.  Shame there was such a bust up with the non-exclusives, I'm sure Getty must of made him an offer he couldn't refuse but it was still so strange to see the biggest non-exclusive going with them at that time.  I'm sure it was always going to work out well for him financially and that makes business sense but it didn't seem like a smart PR move

I doubt it worked out as well for him as he thought it would.  If it had he'd be  crowing about it, here, on his website, in any blog that would interview him.  His silence speaks volumes.

He also did damage to contributors as a whole.  When he went exclusive at Getty and the world didn't end at the other sites, he proved to all agencies that any contributors are expendable,  even the top seller.

Thanks Mat, as always, for clearing up the confusion. 

Does this mean soon we will only be able to check stats, request payouuts, and upload thru Adobe?  I haven't bothered getting set up on the Adobe site because we were told we could keep using Fotolia.  Mat?