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a 'fair' system would be that everyone earns the same amount, a fixed percentage :)

why should I earn more or less on image than anyone

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the flaw in the motivation argument is I don't think you will reach the top RC ranks. It looks to me (and I haven't gone into it heavily - so maybe mistaken) the best match is skewed towards those on lower commission, so as your commission increases you will get worse best match placement, less sales and drop back down.
Huh? The best match is heavily skewed towards vetta and agency files, which are limited to exclusives, so higher commissions.

ok sorry I totally ignored vetta and agency.
It seems though diamond and black diamond people have taken drops (or perhaps it is only a few us being vocal :)), while bronze etc are saying it's now great. Searches based around the stuff that I do seem to be bigger port people have their best sellers at the back, with low selling images at the front, while it is reverse for people with smaller ports / bronze etc. (like I said though I haven't gone into it heavily - just impressions)

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Please explain to me why on earth shoud the Pro make 25% or 30 % and the amateur deservers 40% ???

I actually can't figure out why everyone doesn't get 40%.

yep, why should it matter, when you are pro or amateur? or how long on the site? an image is image, IS accepted so obviously think it has worth.

the flaw in the motivation argument is I don't think you will reach the top RC ranks. It looks to me (and I haven't gone into it heavily - so maybe mistaken) the best match is skewed towards those on lower commission, so as your commission increases you will get worse best match placement, less sales and drop back down.

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Doesn't seem to be good news, but who knows but Bigstock.

With the current pricing the royalty percentage for a vector file (6 credits) bought with different credit packages is:

12 credits package = $2,41 / credit = 20,74 %
25 credits package = $1,96 / credit = 25,51 %
60 credits package = $1,65 / credit = 30,3 %
140 credits package = $1,35 / credit = 37,03 %
350 credits package = $1 / credit = 50 %
700 credits package = $0,9 / credit = 55,55 %

I'm guessing most credits spent are 140 credit bundles and up, so they chose a fixed royalty percentage in the low end of the scheme. It seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

in Oz 12 credit packs is AU$3.40 / credit which is US$3.60 (no option to change currency, and you have to go back 2 years to get anywhere near that bad a rate) - anyway it is 13.8% commission

assuming they keep the same currency rates, 1 pay as u go = us$2.70 = au$4.05 = 22.2% commission so an improvement but not much

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istockphoto Best Match Tweak 5/27/11
« on: June 01, 2011, 06:56 »
mine hasn't changed, best match for me is pretty much the more downloads the further back it is, no or low downloads p1-3, flames start about 8+

181
Overall down because istock

SS - 20% - good
IS - 18% - Really bad, a little over 1/3 of march, earn't more in in 2007 with less than 300 images, photo+ seems have made a shocking april even worse,
DT - 15% - average
FT - 14.8% - average
123rf - 9% - BME
veer - 7.5% - BME
can - 5.5% - v.good
BigStock - 3% - down
panth - 1.3% - average
dp - 1.1% - avg
zoo - 1%
most - 1%
yay - 0.8%
sxf - 0.6%
fp - 0.5% - down

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123RF / Re: Royalty percentage
« on: May 31, 2011, 04:29 »
From this thread, ( I thought it a pretty reasonable deal because if customer went to the 3rd party with the image we just get a single sale. Contributor gets 13.3%, 123rf gets 11.7%)

http://www.microstockgroup.com/123royaltyfree-com/123rf-image-enlargement-services-your-earnings/

Hi Everyone,

Great news! We've introduced another value added service to our clients - 123RF Image Enlargement Service. And you can now see this as being available on the website if you look at your file sizes, we now have the following:

Size            Credits   Your share
S                  1         50%   
M                  2         50%   
L                  3         50%   
XL                 4         50%   
XXL                5         50%   
100 MB TIFF       150     20 credits
200 MB TIFF       300     40 credits
300 MB TIFF       450     60 credits


We are employing an external party to provide this service to our clients. We are using your 5 credit version of the image to enlarge it to 100, 200, 300 MB TIFFs with some minor touch up, removal of noise, etc.  Don't worry about your original images, we do make sure that we keep everything cataloged and our external service provider will not distribute this version without first consulting 123RF.

The good news is, you're now getting approximately 13.3% of the FULL VALUE (not 50% as in the case of the S-XXL size images) of the credits for each image enlarged, while we share the remaining amount with the image enlargement service provider.

We hope that this will prove to be a good and profitable business model for you and our clients as it will increase the earning capacity for everyone. We will promote this service to all our clients and soon you should see some heavy hitting sales coming your way!

Thank you very much.

Alex.
for 123RF.com

183
iStockPhoto.com / Re: free pack of beer!
« on: May 29, 2011, 06:19 »


brand of this part of a steam train made in late 1800's at 200%

184
iStockPhoto.com / Re: There'll always be an England...
« on: May 27, 2011, 03:04 »


I always enjoy the thai english
(which is much better than my thai :))

185
123RF / Re: Put it to test and terrible!!
« on: May 22, 2011, 15:44 »
Decent sales for me everything that is better than 50% of Dreamstime, and 123RF oscillates from 50% - 70% of Dreamstime sales from month to month. At least fot me 123RF was always way better than Fotolia.

same for me re compared to DT, DT is slowly dropping each month, 123 growing, (FT is better than DT for me), BigStock is about 50-70% of 123RF

186
DepositPhotos / Re: Who has had sales at DepositPhotos?
« on: May 21, 2011, 19:49 »
Sold Files: 540
By Credits: 87
By Subscription: 407
By SMS: 46

averaging just under 1% of monthly earnings (personally this is about where I say it is worthwhile) and growing. Earning more than Panther or Scanstock, but less than FP.

They have a reasonable tiered system based on downloads with subs & sms = 1/3 of a sale.

187
Hi,

(in my ignorance) to me they seem more suited and styled towards the macro libraries. I'd look into some of them

http://www.stockphoto.net/
http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/02/27/stock-photo-agencies/

188
iStockPhoto.com / Re: PNG Format: a Game Changer?
« on: May 19, 2011, 21:16 »
Here's an update on PNG files for iStock. This will double my portfolio and bring in higher revenue per image.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=329282&page=1


thanks

snip -->
We also believe that all those business owners and presentation makers who don't necessarily have the skill to isolate images themselves can just drag and drop to their hearts' content.
<--

presented well, so that it is obvious to these customers that the additional format offers transparency it could be a big deal?

189
iStockPhoto.com / Re: P+ How are your sales?
« on: May 19, 2011, 19:24 »
mid march best match shift took me from slow month to BME. The next shift a week or two later has seen my sales being less than half of average months. My redeemed credits for 2010 was 41572, my 'trending' for this year is now 17926. Throw in a rate cut at Fotolia, super cheap prices at alamy and the $US and I am now earning less than half of what I was last year :(

I put in about a third of my port into P+ in the hope that it would come with best match perks (it hasn't). It's still early to tell and hard to say with best match shift as well, but my gut feeling so far is that my sales have gone down a bit further but income is very slightly up.

190
Shutterstock.com / Re: shutterstock account terminated
« on: May 19, 2011, 07:59 »
yes the image is mathematically generated 100% from scratch by the filter (much like fractals start from nothing)

191
Off Topic / Re: This is so beautiful
« on: May 19, 2011, 06:08 »
thanks for this

192
Shutterstock.com / Re: shutterstock account terminated
« on: May 19, 2011, 04:19 »
filterforge will produce the same image time and again, the person creating the filter sets up settings they like (called presets) as examples, the person using the filter can use the preset settings or adjust to their own taste. So it is possible for dozens of people to produce the exact same image (and for each person to own the copyright of their own individual image) hence using the preset settings really isnt a good idea.

193
Shutterstock.com / Re: shutterstock account terminated
« on: May 18, 2011, 19:11 »
some other images using same filter including some but not all?? of the images linked in OP have been deleted by SS.

194
I wouldn't go exclusive anywhere, financially it would need to be a lot more than that, not to mention all the eggs in one basket just like IS. I like SS, but I'm also aware that they own BigStock which has quietly crept into offering one of the lowest commissions of a major / middle site.

195
Newbie Discussion / Re: Hello from Down Under
« on: May 08, 2011, 15:21 »
hi!

196
Off Topic / Re: where is the $ heading??
« on: May 07, 2011, 17:01 »
At one point (in 2008) I got Au$1.42 per U$1, now I am getting $0.90.
It is great for buying gear out of the states, but of course having taken a pay cut (even compared to earlier this year) I don't have any extra cash to buying gear with :)
Someone on the radio (dont know who they were a financial analyst, said about 2 weeks ago they wouldn't be surprised to see au$1 = US$1.5, so I will get around $0.66 if becomes true) :(

198
I'm another who likes canstock (but not the $0.25), for me they are definitely worth the time to upload to, but I do think all sites should payout when you close the account but do any of them payout you if you are under their amount when you close?

199
iStockPhoto.com / Re: No crisis du jour at istockphoto?
« on: April 30, 2011, 16:37 »

Thank you, but my sales at IS are a crisis in themselves  :'( ;D
Unfortunately my too :(


Me three.   Sales drop is the worst I have ever seen in six years.  Looks like I will finish the month with around half what I would normally expect at IS.   Other sites are doing a bit better, but unfortunately not enough to compensate for the free fall at Istock. 

me 4, sales are 50% of march and about 65% of most months, the last 2 weeks have been the worst I've had since 2007 (including previous christmas and easter.)

200
Canon / Re: Here's a new camera to lust over!
« on: April 27, 2011, 04:38 »
very cool, thanks for posting!!

really enjoyed it and like the point at the end, amazing for what it is. 10 years ago we would have laughed at the idea of a video camera in a barbie, well we laugh now too but differently :)

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