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i was gonna look at your portfolio photoshow but you have the wrong info in the boxes.

You just need your username or id # (whichever is specified) and the link will be created automatically.

Thanks for that info Leaf, I have corrected the profile and the links should now be correct.

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Have you considered doing a video of the lessons and selling it to us overseas photogs who cannot get to the states? I bet it would sell like hot cakes round the stock sites.
(Can I have a discount for suggesting it? ;D ;))

Yes we have and will be doing a video series on these workshops. We filmed a good portion of the first workshop and will film this one and the next several after as well.

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does the cost include the round trip flight from norway?

Well Wouter came from the Netherlands for the last one!

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I'm still waiting for you to do one up in Fort Collins! (admittedly, I'll probably be waiting for a REALLY long time)  ;D

Actually I might not do a group session there but I would be happy to do a one on on in Ft. Collins. I lived there for 20 years and have 2 daughters and 4 grandchildren that still live there so I am in town at least once a year.

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Well I doubt LO is sending out enough payouts just yet tpo qualify for mass payments which would remove the fees. In the meantime if the fees are to much for you I suppose you could always request a check but banks charging fees is nothing new.

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There you Have It Lucky Oliver Is In The House.

Thanks Bryan

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Did you miss out on the first seminar? Well now is your opportunity to Learn the Studio and Location Lighting techniques of Stock Photography and work with live professional models.

Join Bobby Deal (Photoshow) and Becky Abell (BeckyA) in Las Vegas for a fun and informative weekend workshop and all Lucky Oliver Members will receive $50.00 off their registration compliments of Lucky Oliver!

When: August 11th and 12th 2007

This will be a 2 day event and is open to the first 12 confirmed participants.

This workshop is not for the weak of heart. It will be packed with intensive classroom studies and hands on application. We will cover a wide range of topics related to shooting models for stock in the studio and on location.

Here is an overview of the weekend agenda

Day 1 In Studio

Classroom instruction on the following. (2 hours)
***Models will be in makeup during class***

1.            Learn about lighting equipment, ratios and techniques  for creating full body model isolations in the studio
2.   How / where to find models
3.   TFP / TFCD VS. Paid
4.   Model Releases and Contracts
5.   Make Up Artists and Stylist, do I really need them?
6.   Shooting Raw VS. JPG
7.   After the shoot, post production workflow including PS Techniques for retouching.

In studio Demonstrations. (2 hours)

1.   Hands on demonstration on setting up studio space for photo shoots. You will be present and involved in setting up backgrounds lights and modifiers with a Q&A session after the set up.
2.   Live model shoots with Bobby and Becky. Here you will see how we shoot and interact with the models. You will have the opportunity to ask question as we shoot and even look through our view finder and see what we see when we shoot.

Lunch (1 hour)

Hands On Model Shoots (4 hours)


After the demonstrations we will break into groups of 4 and will have the opportunity to shoot with multiple models while Becky and I assist YOU. Have a question, not sure how to do something, need help directing your model?  Becky and I will be at your sides to share our experience and guide you through your shooting sessions.

We will be offering tips and tricks all along the way so that by the end of the day you will have the confidence and knowledge to begin doing your own Model shoots when you get back home.

Dinner After the studio session we will all gather for dinner and open discussion on the days activities. After dinner you will all be free to disperse and enjoy the many entertainment and photographic diversions the great city of Las Vegas has to offer.

Day 2 Morning Demo Session (2 hours)

On the morning of day two we will meet and caravan to an outdoor desert location to set up and shoot with the models. While our models are in makeup and hair we will have a demonstration session to familiarize you with the various equipment and techniques we will be using during our shoots for the day, here you will learn about using all sorts of light modifiers outdoors to create your light. As well as learning how to use the environment and artificial light to further enhance the light that Mother Nature provides you.

Location Shoot Morning Session (2-3 hours)

This will be hands on guided shooting with multiple models. Again Becky and I and maybe a surprise guest photographer or 2 will be at your side to guide you every step of the way.

Lunch / midday break (2 hours)

Location Shoot Afternoon Session (4 hours)

After lunch we will gather and travel to a second outdoor location to further explore the use of natural and artificial light on location to produce stunning shots with our models.

At the end of the workshop we can again meet for dinner to recap what we have learned over the weekend or disperse as desired.

There will be a minimum of 3-4 models available for all shooting sessions and models will be providing participants with signed model releases.

Workshop registration includes all model and makeup artist fees, wardrobe, props, ground transportation to and from locations and lunch each day.

Lodging, dinner and incidentals are not included in registration.

For registration information contact [email protected]

Space is limited to 12 participants.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Christmas Image Downloaded
« on: March 30, 2007, 16:31 »
It is rare that a day goes by that I don't have several Christmas themed images download.

I know many photographers think the time to upload Christmas images is in Oct - Nov. but the real peak buying season for print use of Hoilday images is more like 6 months before the Holiday. I will shoot my Christmas images for next year in June and upload them in July /August

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Here is a small portion of what I have come across in use over the past couple years. I have lots more print stuff that I need to scan and add to my IN USE GALLERY if I ever manage to find the time.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Could you do this?
« on: March 30, 2007, 13:35 »
If the work is created by an Independent Contract, such as a Wedding Photographer then in order for the work to be deemed a Work for Hire there must exist a contract that specifically states the work is a Work For Hire.

The rules that determine Work For Hire are pretty specific and can be found in this Government Publication

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ09.pdf

Bobby Deal

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Uprezing files
« on: October 15, 2006, 03:09 »
I suppose the only way they can 'tell' is thus just viewing the image closely, for even with a lousy lens,an image at ,say, 30 meg file should have a certain amount of detail.
 

Well aside from the obvious visual clues and there are many, flat pixels, color artifacts, loss of detail, softness etc., the agency can tell very easily if you have interpolated your image. All they have do do is look at the EXIF data for the image which will reveal the Camera make and model with which the image was created. If the image dimensions exceed th known native size of the image produced by your camera then it is obvious that the file was interpolated and would be rejected if it is the agencies policy to not accept upsized images.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: CitizenImage
« on: October 12, 2006, 16:42 »
Oops my bad, I read the formula as Pixels and Pixels so I in fact am wrong buit you are correct that is some very strange system they have set up!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: CitizenImage
« on: October 12, 2006, 13:07 »
i don't think they are getting them mixed up, they just have a crazy way of calculating how many MB's an image is. They want you to do a calculation, and not just look how much room it takes up on a hard disk.

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The image size in MB shown below is based on the following calculation.
Image Size = number of pixels wide
 X the number of pixels high
 X the number of bytes per pixel



I am sorry but that formula WILL NOT tell you how many MB (MegaBytes) a file is
That fromula WILL tell you how many MP (Mega Pixel) a file is

Mega Byte = File Size - How much space a file takes on a disk
Mega Pixel = Image Resolution, how many pixels the total file contains which when divided by usage resolution will give you the finished print size

Very simply put the information they are providing is WRONG

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General Stock Discussion / Re: CitizenImage
« on: October 11, 2006, 18:18 »
I don't know how excited I can get about an agency that does not understand the difference between MegaByte and MegaPixel. The specs in their submission Technical Specifications http://www.citizenimage.com/articles/articles06.jsp are all Wrong, they have MB and MP mixed up

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Just be sure that when you are dodging in close up to the edge of the object that you zoom in to 100% or more so that you can get the edges truly clean and be careful of adjoining highlight. If the object has a lot of highlights along the edges that may get burned out you may want to work from a duplicate layer so that the highlights are not lost

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So if I understand correctly, the 1 1/2 - 3 stops is the difference in proper exposure from the subject to the background? How about if your subject is lighter in color, i.e. off white, silver, etc?

Also, for small objects, how do you set up your lights? Currently, I'm using daylight directional lighting coming in through the garage door on some white posterboard. The brightest ights I have been able to find are two 300 watt bulbs. I am trying to use them to cut out the shadow, but wihtout much success.

I appreciate your help and advice.

Well I shoot mostly models and not small objects but the technical aspects are the same, if you can provide enough separation between the key light and the background lights you will accomplish your isolation.

Should there be slight amounts of light shadow around the bottom of a shot, be it the models feet or the bottom edge of a bottle it is quick and simple to clean up with the dodge tool set to Highlights and at a tolerance of between 2 and 50 depending on the contrast levels between background and the edge of your subject.

On my model shots they typically will come out of the camera isolated to the ankles and below that there may be a very light bit of shadow / grey that is easily cleaned up with the above technique. If I had one more strobe and soft box in my gear I would be able to eliminate this tiny bit of post processing but it is so minimal it really does not slow me down enough to justify the added expense of the additional investment in gear.

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The best advice I can give you is to spot meter off the object and then expose the object properly while over exposing the BG by 1 1/2 - 3 stops. This means you probably need to be able to put a bit of distance between foreground and background to prevent light spill from the BG and to provide the proper sense of separation.

For people this takes a fair bit of lighting gear but for objects you can accomplish this with minimal gear if you shoot from a tripod and use a remote or timed shutter release. The biggest secret to it all is "SPOT METER" if you use Matrix or Averaging Metering your backgrounds will ALWAYS be grey.

Those who think they know better will complain that a truly isolated image lacks warmth and appeal because it is floating in space. They make these complaints only because they do not understand that an isolated image is not meant to be a finished product, it is not meant to be grounded it is meant to be ISOLATED. A proper isolation is nothing more then a design element. It sells because it is useful not because it elicits a physical or emotional response in the way a finished piece of art does.

A properly isolated shot will appear to be floating in space, if it does not, if it contains shadows that can ground it then it is not properly isolated.

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isolate  /v. ahy-suh-leyt, is-uh-; n., adj. ahy-suh-lit, -leyt, is-uh-] lat‧ed, -lat‧ing, noun, adjective

verb (used with object)

1. to set or place apart; detach or separate so as to be alone.

Despite the insistence of one designer in that thread the presence of a clipping path is not a deciding factor in an image being an "Isolation"

If an image is shot and or processed (mine are shot this way) to provide a shadow free evenly lit (flat light) pure white #FFFFFF background whereby the designer may select the background with the magic wand in Photoshop set to a tolerance of ZERO pixels, reverse the selection and then have only the subject of the photo minus background and or shadows then the image is an isolation.

If the image contains a shadow then it is NOT alone and it is NOT an isolation it is "shot over white" which does not mean that it is not a useful stock photo it just means that it "Is not an isolation"

For a designer to insist on clipping paths in Micro Stock is crazy, creating clipping paths is in my opinion the job of the designer. As a photographer it is my job to provide the designer with access to well executed photographs which they can then use as design elements in their designs. Clipping paths and light modeling are in the realm of the designer not the photographer.

For my isolations I shoot them so as to be isolated to a zero pixel tolerance right in the camera, they are also shot with a very flat lighting which then allows the designer to model the lighting of the image to exactly meet their needs in the design.

If I offer them images that show a strong lighting from the right creating modeling and shadowing on the left hand side of the image then I have restricted the use of my image to designs that are also lit from the right with a similar light modeling. Unless of course the designer does not care that the object does not match the light modeling of the design which results in the object appearing to be simply pasted into the design instead of appearing to be a natural part of it.

Others may disagree but to my mind the true isolation is an image that is "alone and shadow free"

Bobby Deal

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