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Off Topic / Re: Pinterest anyone?
« on: June 02, 2012, 12:35 »
interesting ...  in their career page there's this job position :

"Search and Data Mining Engineer

You will be responsible for mining our deeply linked data set connecting millions of people to the objects they love. Our data set gives us the opportunity to provide personal recommendations of unprecedented specificity and quality. Your work will help millions of people discover products, services and places they love."


so, it seems they recognize their search function sucks and they're realizing that unkeyworded images are impossible to find easily, their job description also clearly mention they plan on working on automted "recommendation" .. what's that exactly ? "related images" ? related pins ? related links to e-commerce sites ? how will this work, of course by cross checking the keyworkding and making keyword ranks on density etc .. hmm ...let's see ...

they also clearly state "discover products" and this can only mean they will add something suggesting links to buy products related to their pins ... if i steal and pin a photo of the Tour Eiffel i will be served with a box with ads from travel agents, hotels, etc .. i guess !

so, a poor man's Adsense basically but i'm afraid they're going to integrate everyting inside pinterest in a huge pin & buy scenario, a mix of Flickr, Ebay, and Amazon more or less, all based on stolen photos !


In an interview with Financial Time, Rakuten CEO calls it "discovery shopping".

http://blogs.ft.com/tech-blog/2012/05/rakuten-ceo-pinterest/

And in case you missed it Rakuten is the new $100mil investor in Pinterest. In effect, all the mindless Pinhags will become shills for Pinterest. So Antistock, you're correct in your assessment here. It will become all about the commerce. Rakuten now also controls Buy.com, so look for a head to head battle with Amazon.

Now let's take it a little further - let's suppose that pinterest is somehow willing to pay the pinhags a penny per sales conversion, or issue "Rakuten Points" as Buy.com does (I use Buy.com and points are issued to buyers for each purchase based on sales price.). The trailer trash housewives will be in a pin frenzy and will be able to get their chocolate covered bacon snacks for free. They won't be interested in stock photos anymore. It will be a fast sprint to get the Louis Vuitton handbags the husbands wont' let them buy.

And another article of interest

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/17/rakuten-ceo-on-the-100b-pinterest-round-we-want-pinterest-users-to-pin-images-and-buy-using-our-id/

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Most of you know that on certain searches for generic terms stock images can rank pretty high. I wonder if when the "artists" put together their book they cleared rights or purchased any needed licenses for their new Google Dictionary book

http://www.creativeapplications.net/scripts/google-the-first-google-image-for-every-word-in-the-dictionary/

While intended as an art piece, the artists Ben and Felix are currently looking into having a small run of softcover editions of Google printed to sell.

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Off Topic / Re: Pinterest anyone?
« on: May 31, 2012, 09:43 »

I've modified my .htaccess file on my seanlockephotography.com site, so any attempt to pin from the Pinterest agent gets this image instead:
http://pinterest.com/pin/269793833897646473/
(which I host on their server, which is awesome)

Any ideas for better text?  That was just temp text...  I don't think anyone takes from my domain - I just wanted to write a blog post about it...


I would leave it. The words are small enough for them to understand.

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btw, camera obscura is nothing, I was around when Daguerre tested his wet-plates and actually got real pics. Hows that  :D

I did cave drawings ;-)

Going on an extended road trip in late summer, don't know exactly where yet. I don't actively submit much any more. I have been cutting micro agencies rather that looking for new, so I don't suffer many of the woes here. I actually started to see the handwriting on the wall in 2009 and then when Stockxpert met its demise. The new opportunities I found have paid off.

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Veer / Re: Your Veer portfolio on Alamy
« on: May 28, 2012, 10:25 »
So Brian....how is the solution going?

Yes Brian, inquiring minds want to know.

Actually I don't know how Veer could even think of doing this, especially when it's known that a lot of microstockers are double stuffing, meaning Alamy and the micros. Didn't anyone over there realize that there was going to be a conflict by submitting dupes? And if Veer didn't know that, then they don't know the business.

Also interesting is is that images are some images do not meet Alamy's size requirements. They're just being arbitrarily shoved up there.

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Off Topic / Re: Pinterest anyone?
« on: May 28, 2012, 01:15 »
Noteworthy sign-up and social media strategy. Good design.
Total fail in providing good content. Completely crap and even duplicate content.
I need to study more because if they have become as successful as they have at this level, then there are things to learn.
Will spend some time now. Probably days/nights. Crap.

It all depends on how you measure success. Right now, they are backed by approx $135 million in venture capital and claim to make no money. They are the social media darling whose popularity has been supercharged by the musings of blathering housewives living out their own virtual fantasies. Half of the women on there probably couldn't fit into the haute couture dresses they pin. If you are selling baby rattles, beauty creams and bacon snacks, there's money to be made by engaging there.

As sjlocke sums up, it's a freetard mentality at pinterest. If you have lithe blonde brides in your image inventory and especially pics of their Swarowski encrusted shoes, your images will be pinned. And no, hey won't come back to buy them. Let's be serious here. Any traffic would get would just be free-seeking just looking for more fodder. If you shoot the isolated orange over and over, consider yourself safe from the Pinhags.

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I don't, I wasn't around back then (when it happened, I've only been doing this for just over 2 years). What happened?

Nice one about sleeping pills :)

They came around about 5 years ago I think. When the new what seemed to be fly by nights started, I had a specially prepared batch of 5 images that were, well, pretty much garbage by today's standards. I uploaded - they took them all. Only one other agency that shall remain nameless did too. It was a test to see how low the quality barrier was. All I can say was, pretty low. Turned out the place was run out of some apartment in Calif. Anyway, same old story - I had about 100 images there, 2 sales in a year. Some of the stuff on the site very sad. After while of basically no movement, I decided to pull out. I was one of the lucky ones where they actually did it for me. Because they stopped responding to support emails etc, and I think for awhile the site may have been offline. Looks like there is a new site design now that seems to be active, but perhaps only in the strict definition of the word. These days I've been deleting the losers, not keeping them.

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Oh yeah, now I see what you're getting at. Yes, as a dump site at that rates it would be great. At least for those with huge and partly old ports. I have neither, but hey a couple of hundred dollars/year for 5 min of work (I'm thinking FTP UL) sure sounds nice. But as we all know and as you said, it would go bust. Or demand quality material which no one in his right mind would contribute.

But I can see what OP was getting at. Compared to non top 4 sites, especially the low tier sites, it would still be good. If top contributors can't even get a payout in a year on some of those, than it really says everything about earnings at those sites.

We already have the Dump sites - remember how people got fooled by the old Albumo? I did a test there to see what there qual control was like and they took every piec of crap I could possibly load.

The OP had better adjust his sleep medications because they're kicking in at the wrong time.

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A third thread. The Sigma 105mm is a fine lens. Since you don't seem to know what you want, you might be best going for the cheaper. Even then, 750 bucks for the Sigma is a lot of cash to shoot dates on coins. Do you have any experience here at all? Because the questions are basically repetitive. Your cheapest way out to test the waters would be with a reversing ring and the 50mm or tubes. Don't expect miracles as it takes a bit of work.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock IPO (or actually Getty)
« on: May 23, 2012, 00:29 »
The KKR move is puzzling - a firm spearheaded the largest leveraged buyout in the the energy sector this year and that has a stock that has flatlined at about 12 bucks for the past 2 years. The only thing that makes sense here is debt financing, but why would TA Associates, who actually owns FO need debt financing? There is some more leveraging going on, so look for the face of micro to shift once again, and probably soon.

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I you have actual access to the lens then borrow it . Only you can judge how good it is. You have the distinct option here in seeing if the lens fits your actual needs. It's a no brainer. Not everybody gets tat opportunity.

Why two threads on this stuff?

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Image Sleuth / Re: Microsoft's new pinterest clone !!
« on: May 22, 2012, 23:49 »
Maybe that's the business model? 

They claim to make no money, even though backed by some $135 million in venture capital.

On one of those business profile sites used by investors they are listed as a "mobile shopping service". I don't know where that definition came from. Was it the business site who possibly chose to list the profile that way or was it pinterest who made a submission of their profile that way? I don't know.

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omg we're on Yuri watch again?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Macro Sales
« on: May 22, 2012, 18:21 »
I love that Canon MPE lens. It's the only reason I bought a Canon.

@tab62 Water drop on a leaf - wow that's original. There are how many gajillions of them?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Macro Sales
« on: May 22, 2012, 02:23 »
I take macro photos, and I sell macro photos.
Its all about what is the frame.
Go do a louse in a stacked macro, or a mosquitto...
It will sell well.

Half bees with shallow dof does not sell.

Do you use Zerene? Just curious.

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You do need to convert text to outlines.

As far as publication rights, almost everything out there on the freebie sites is nicked from somewhere.Just like "free stock photos" on the usual suspect sites. Better to stick to what came on your machine.

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StockFresh / Re: A call to arms - Support StockFresh
« on: May 18, 2012, 02:57 »
With an average of about $100/mo in commissions at the old stockxpert, my applcation hung for something like 6 months even though I notified them of my former account when applying. Stockfresh can stick it. I'm on to bigger and better things so doesn't much matter any more..

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I believe that it may only happen if he opens it for contributors, if not, its just his website, it shouldnt affect I guess but agencies we actually never know..

While do you think he started his boot camp? His entourage will do the work, and it will likely be exclusive content directed by him. It will be an agency, just not with the usual known suspects.

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Off Topic / Re: PayPal Scam Message
« on: May 01, 2012, 23:08 »
I love the first name - EULA - pretty funny. That should be a clue at least to some right there.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IS kills logo and png initiatives
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:40 »
I wonder if it would be advantageous to be able to opt in for clients to be able to contact us for Logos & PNGs?

And have IS miss the chance to get their cut? Fat chance of that!

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Video Equipment / Sofware / Technique / Re: Konova Slider
« on: April 23, 2012, 09:52 »
You might try this site and do some hunting

http://cheesycam.com/

We use Kessler here, not exactly lightweight but we have big trucks.

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Illustration - General / Re: Logos and names
« on: April 18, 2012, 15:34 »
Say someone gets a picture like this approved. A picture where there is a potential copyright problem with facebook, twitter or whatever. Who gets in trouble if it is discovered by the company? The agency or the contributor that made the image?
Both or at least the contributor.

It's actually the end user that would get the shaft depending on usage. A contributor can make whatever image he wants and the agency can be stupid enough to take it and sell it. About the only way a shooter gets in trouble is if he lies about a model release or breaks into a premises such as a desirable abandoned property to take photos and sell.

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Illustration - General / Re: Logos and names
« on: April 18, 2012, 15:28 »
As far as the words "Facebook" and "twitter" go you can use them as long as they are not in the typeface and color that make up the logo. The logo is protected, the word isn't.

Helix7 has covered the rest. You'll know your made up fake logo is too similar when they reject it.


Sorry, but both words are protected as they are both registered trademarks. In fact in the case of facebook they even want to limit the use of the word Book by others, which of course is a bunch of crap, but they see things differently.'

http://mashable.com/2010/08/25/facebook-teachbook-lawsuit/


Paris Hilton tried to trademark the term "that's hot" and failed. Donald trump tried to trademark the term "you're fired" and failed. I could sue you right now for the use of the term stormchaser which I'm currently in the process of trademarking. Will I win a lawsuit like that? Doubtful. Referencing a lawsuit is not evidence of anything since anyone can sue anyone for anything. You can protect logos but not words and while facebook didn't exist as a word in common usage prior to the website the word twitter certainly did. It would be surprising if the courts allow facebook to control the use of the word book in any context but until they rule, it's not a fact.

The rejections here are a case of SS and IS playing it safe because they don't want any hassles and the reviewers are generally uninformed and make poor judgements much of the time.

Edit: The issue here is the specific context of a stock illustration, not in general terms. Here is a definition from a legal website on trademark: "a trademark is a distinguishing mark that one can readily associate to a person or business. One example of a symbol trademark is Nike's swoosh design. We all know that swoosh is identified with Nike." The swoosh is an element of the logo which is trademarked. That doesn't mean you can't ever use a swoosh in an image, you just can't use that particular swoosh design. A blue bird is associated with twitter but that doesn't mean you can't have a blue bird in an illustration. The key term in the definition above is "distinguishing mark" and I don't think a word alone qualifies unless it also resembles the style and design of the logo.


Companies do submit Wordmarks only and many times do not register a drawing.  The question that was asked is "Are Twitter and Facebook words protected?" Yes they are. This in direct opposition to your statement if "The logo is protected, the word isn't." Please go back to trademark school 101 and then talk to me.

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Illustration - General / Re: Logos and names
« on: April 18, 2012, 05:54 »
As far as the words "Facebook" and "twitter" go you can use them as long as they are not in the typeface and color that make up the logo. The logo is protected, the word isn't.

Helix7 has covered the rest. You'll know your made up fake logo is too similar when they reject it.


Sorry, but both words are protected as they are both registered trademarks. In fact in the case of facebook they even want to limit the use of the word Book by others, which of course is a bunch of crap, but they see things differently.'

http://mashable.com/2010/08/25/facebook-teachbook-lawsuit/

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Newbie Discussion / Re: how to contact a blogspot owner?
« on: April 13, 2012, 02:15 »


and i hope server or blogger service will really suspense or take down a website if the users are violating copyrights..

In order for that to happen you need to use the best avenue for reporting and follow through on it. I just got done chasing down a few of those Pinterest people for having a bunch of my stuff there - food and wedding images. One girl got pretty snippy with me, so I had my attorney send off a note. That fixed it fast.

In order for people to mind your usage rights photographers need to decide if they want to take a stand on the issue, but many want to try to play the game both ways to see what's in it for them. There is no unified voice here. And the free image sites will just kill off micro, yet people still donate hoping for "exposure", and it's really the biggest joke going. You bought a camera for a thousand, another 5 hundred for a lens, and you are satisfied with your image being worth nothing? Gimme a break.

Good you got your image down. That the agency name was not correct bothers me - I would look into that a little. It could also have been a mistake in naming on the part of the blogger so don't overlook that possibility.

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