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« on: November 02, 2023, 12:24 »
"the sales rate is almost negligible" says it all. Plus, $300 a year for hosting?
Hi Uncle Pete!
the point is, through the agencies I sell pretty well; thus my "almost negligible" (compared to that) is enough to pay for the hosting and leaves me something for a cup of coffee too ;-)
Not to mention that my huuuge options come in very handy to develop and test my customers' websites before delivering them, and to host there a few E-mail accounts for friends and relatives.
Thus all in all, though paradoxically, it's still convenient - or at least no waste :-)
And in case anyone else or you think I'm being at all critical, I admire your effort and the work that went into the site, making it function as it should, and wish you continued success.
❤️
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« on: November 02, 2023, 05:20 »
I never tried licensing microstock on my own but I licensed full priced stock back in the day to magazines & web designers who'd find me via searches. These days, however, I usually only license photos to clients with whom I already have a relationship, such as local magazines & various calendar companies I work with.
Even when I licensed stock regularly to non-clients, while they sometimes found my work via Google, they mostly found it because Photoshelter (my site host since 2008) hosted the URLs of thousands of photographers and search was built into both individual websites and also art directors could go to Photoshelter directly and search all keyworded images that all the photographers' sites they hosted had available to license. So I had that working for me ... the effort to market on my own would have been daunting.
It's a shame that it's no longer viable because Photoshelter has easy stock & print pricing & ecommerce built in, and even lets you do image packages. It's still worthwhile since it also provides unlimited storage of RAW, PSD, etc, excellent organization & search, client sharing tools, private galleries, and numerous templates so even this 65-year-old grandma can build & change my site with ease.
I never had the volume I'd need to make licensing microstock worthwhile but IMHO, even when the market was strong, it only ever made sense to license full priced stock because I could provide unique RM images that weren't on other sites. Today, the microstock model has mostly supplanted RM. My only licenses these days are to clients with whom I already have a relationship, done via private (hidden) galleries set up each of them, a far cry from random Google searches.
Hard to believe how much has changed in 15 years.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
P.S. I love that you are making antique looking images like the books and some Halloween images with the latest AI tech. Beautiful stuff! Great idea licensing as image packs too.
Thank you for sharing your story, I found it quite interesting! IMHO images like yours are way too beautiful, classy and soulful to be wasted on the microstock market amid those billions of 'click-and-upload' hasty amateurish snapshots. I agree that licensing them individually to people you know and respect is the right way of selling them. Yes, I'd like to expand the notion of licensing my images as bundles. Thank you for your kind words!
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« on: November 01, 2023, 13:03 »
"the sales rate is almost negligible" says it all. Plus, $300 a year for hosting?
Hi Uncle Pete! the point is, through the agencies I sell pretty well; thus my "almost negligible" (compared to that) is enough to pay for the hosting and leaves me something for a cup of coffee too ;-) Not to mention that my huuuge options come in very handy to develop and test my customers' websites before delivering them, and to host there a few E-mail accounts for friends and relatives. Thus all in all, though paradoxically, it's still convenient - or at least no waste :-)
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« on: October 24, 2023, 14:47 »
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« on: September 13, 2023, 07:38 »
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« on: September 13, 2023, 04:23 »
same here, a pile of money without corresponding sales. I'm not complaining but... Mat please, is there a way to know what happens? I would be very grateful for an explanation 
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« on: September 01, 2023, 11:43 »
@gameover
this is the smart way to do localized ai images. Use a real image as a background and just ai content at the front.
Great work!
Thank you! You gave me inspiration, you were my Muse 
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« on: August 27, 2023, 03:26 »
I found myself in the same boat. Have been a Fololia/Adobe contributor for 16 years. I had a few AI images accepted, but my portfolio consists mostly of "handmade" photos and videos. Thursday my port was blocked. It's frustrating that there was no warning, no communication, no reply for three days.
tut mir leid zu hren, dass es dich ebenso getroffen hat!
Nun sitzen wir hier im Forum zu dritt in diesem leider mit sehr wenig Information gefllten Boot.
I'm following this thread and I'm very very sorry to hear these extremely unpleasant situations. Hope that common sense quickly prevails.
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« on: August 27, 2023, 03:24 »
I found myself in the same boat. Have been a Fololia/Adobe contributor for 16 years. I had a few AI images accepted, but my portfolio consists mostly of "handmade" photos and videos. Thursday my port was blocked. It's frustrating that there was no warning, no communication, no reply for three days.
So sorry to hear this.
Adobe is wrong in the way they are handling established contributors who made a mistake with AI - and doubly wrong because their review process for AI images is so useless it doesn't catch any of the errors.
This isn't an intractable problem. It requires a bit of attention, possibly some extra staff assigned to the task and possibly some code. When a problem AI image is identified in an account more than one year old:
-Disable AI images temporarily while you investigate
-Email the contributor with the image numbers identified as problems and mark them in the contributor interface. Have a few categories of errors and specify what the errors are with each image number
-Block uploading but leave the account open for the contributor to delete items if that's their choice. Payouts should be available if the balance is sufficient.
-Respond to contributors with disabled images within a week - if their accounts are open, the urgency will be less.
-If the investigation takes longer than a week, allow uploading of non-AI images until issues are resolved.
Established contributors have proved themselves with Adobe Stock. Treating them with respect, even if a mistake has been made (not only by them, but also by the reviewers), is the absolute least they deserve.
Jo Ann, thank you for the well thought and meaningful post. Quite brave of you :-)
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« on: July 21, 2023, 02:02 »
Hi Everyone,
I would like to share two updates regarding the submission of generative AI images to Adobe Stock. We have updated the contributor portal and added an additional checkbox that eliminates the need for you to attach a property release for generative AI images featuring people or property that are fictional.
In addition, you can now submit photo-realistic generative AI images as asset type photos, i.e., content that looks as though it could have been created by a camera, as long as you check the box that it was created with generative AI tools. All other generative AI content should continue to be submitted as asset type illustrations.
You can read the details on all the updates in our learn and support page here:
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Mat Hayward
Thank you very much Mat! Clear and easier now, and (crossing my fingers) quicker 
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« on: June 30, 2023, 05:23 »
@gameover
congrats!
Also trying to do more concepts. But I need a lot more experience to get them right.
Just think out of the box, it's easy! 
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« on: June 30, 2023, 03:32 »
I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.
Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...
Congrats  That's really a good start! Looks like he found out that the idea behind the images plays a decisive role: once I realized it my sales skyrocketed (this week a single image got me $21.25 and another $26.40)
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« on: June 29, 2023, 10:25 »
LOVE IT!
Please upload that, it will bring great money
thank you! I took your suggestion 👍
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« on: June 27, 2023, 08:22 »
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« on: June 27, 2023, 07:58 »
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« on: June 27, 2023, 07:40 »
LOVE IT!
Please upload that, it will bring great money
I forgot to add a placard " politeness is obsolete!" - working on it
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« on: June 27, 2023, 07:09 »
Why are you going on a witch hunt against people or agencies that use ai?
I see many people singing the praises of AI...
I only feel free to have my own opinions. An issue for you?
do you live in a dictatorship? or would like to?
 (made with AI  )
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« on: June 13, 2023, 05:15 »
I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:
- Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.
Right!
The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...
Congrats!
thank you
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« on: June 09, 2023, 14:08 »
I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:
- Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.
Right! The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...
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« on: May 21, 2023, 13:27 »
Lowls,
What prevented anyone before AI from writing their own ideas in one style or another? In fact, all artists start by absorbing styles from other artists that they like and influence them to write. Isn't that the normal learning process for humans?
Taking the example of music. How many bands exist and still exists with a Beatles-style sound all over the world? I would say hundreds if not thousands.I remember the first time I heard the band Oasis and I felt a kind of revival of the Beatles sound. Naturally there were particularities such as themes, some writing and type of voice but in essence it reminds me a lot of the Beatles.
Guitarist Van Halen developed the unique style of "Fingertap" on the guitar. Among others Steve Vai or Joe Satriani use this style in their music/songs. If we are going to talk about good BB King then practically most guitarists use the famous "bending" style which makes the guitar seem to cry especially in Blues, Rock or variants...
Jumping to graffiti how many artists "imitate" banksy?
Despite the Stencil technique, the Grunge style of drawing, and the Transformism of images such as the Clown Ronald Macdonalds and Mickey Mouse holding hands with the Napalm Girl are not his, the originality in the portrait subject marks his authorship.
If you look at Andy Warhol's work well then he took pictures that weren't of him and painted over them (i.e. Marilyn Monroe) Warhol created this masterpiece which consists of 50 images of Marilyn using the same publicity photograph from the film titled Niagara.
So nothing stopped any of them from absorbing and learning styles and bringing originality to our world, right?
AI will not kill creativity. In fact, it will do the opposite. It allow you to explore and develop many more styles or combinations of styles than any artist could do in his lifetime. This is where originality and a sense of art are born. So AI can help you to perform a better drawing, painting, writing or re-write your work. Also can bring new things to your creative table that you may include or not. It's really up to you. If you are having trouble in understand if AI can substitute the artist it can not. AI is only an excellent performer. Do not forget who write the prompt.
On the other hand of course you can use AI to just copycat but we don't need AI for that we've been living with this problem for decades and normally they don't go so far without being noticed.
I will not extend my post any longer since i find you were more interest in AI for Artistic vision which is a small water drop in the AI ocean. AI will assist you in everything you do - literally everything! You cannot use fake data/metadata for research. The redundancy, entropy and risk is too high but you can run simulations based on real data/metadata to help you with accuracy for some diagnosis.
It is a great relief to read again a voice of reason in here! I was afraid all reasonable souls had run away scared by the Bandar-log
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« on: May 21, 2023, 09:14 »
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