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Shutterstock.com / Re: New policy for illustrators!!
« on: April 12, 2013, 05:51 »
Yeah, that's got to work! Thanks. Lordy, if these silly people don't accept that, I don't know what to think!

Hey Rhino here is an example of the source images from my drawings I put together. The Right side 4459_SketchSpaceSet_Drawings is what I added as my source when I uploaded the .eps today.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=470777679657381&set=a.310515332350284.71655.310236269044857&type=1&theater

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New policy for illustrators!!
« on: April 11, 2013, 10:20 »
Sorry I quoted myself. Please disregard.

Well, that's why I just decided I'm going to include my black outline for the computer-based illustrations. They do their best, but they still keep thinking I'm making them from an original scan/ink drawing. I want to prevent more resubmissions and feed the beast.  ;)

Gonna hurt some!

http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/how-to-submit-vectors-created-using-other-images


I'm glad they finally put something in writing. But it's still crappy because folks that make art on computer are still getting rejected for not having an original scan.  >:(

I''m now going into my 10 images sitting in approval queue to add scans of drawings for vectors I created from india ink drawings in the model release tab. I will humbly submit to this new process. However, I hope they remain consistent with this policy.
Shouldn't be rejected but?

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Please note that you do not have to submit reference images for vectors that were directly created on a program or tablet.


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However, please know that our reviewers examine every image submission very thoroughly, and may request more information about a vector if it appears that the vector may have been created using a reference image.



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Shutterstock.com / Re: New policy for illustrators!!
« on: April 11, 2013, 10:18 »
Well, that's why I just decided I'm going to include my black outline for the computer-based illustrations. They do their best, but they still keep thinking I'm making them from an original. I want to prevent more resubmissions and feed the beast.  ;)

Gonna hurt some!

http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/how-to-submit-vectors-created-using-other-images


I'm glad they finally put something in writing. But it's still crappy because folks that make art on computer are still getting rejected for not having an original scan.  >:(

I''m now going into my 10 images sitting in approval queue to add scans of drawings for vectors I created from india ink drawings in the model release tab. I will humbly submit to this new process. However, I hope they remain consistent with this policy.
Shouldn't be rejected but?

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Please note that you do not have to submit reference images for vectors that were directly created on a program or tablet.


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However, please know that our reviewers examine every image submission very thoroughly, and may request more information about a vector if it appears that the vector may have been created using a reference image.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: New policy for illustrators!!
« on: April 11, 2013, 10:10 »
This lessens abuse which i am all for. It doesn't affect my work flow as i had to deal with this situation on istock. It is funny how they are tightening things around here now they are a public company. bad press hurts stock prices!

I stopped including scans for IS over a year ago. With their arbitrary rejections, it never made a difference for me. Well, it seems SS is going the route of IS by only requiring a scan and not a completed release with the scan. If I'm right, then this original scan (or drawing on computer?) won't be much of a hassle.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New policy for illustrators!!
« on: April 11, 2013, 09:45 »
Gonna hurt some!

http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/how-to-submit-vectors-created-using-other-images


I'm glad they finally put something in writing. But it's still crappy because folks that make art on computer are still getting rejected for not having an original scan.  >:(

I''m now going into my 10 images sitting in approval queue to add scans of drawings for vectors I created from india ink drawings in the model release tab. I will humbly submit to this new process. However, I hope they remain consistent with this policy.

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You all have rejected images that I created 100% on computer for not having a source image. I've been working with you for over 2 years and never had such ridiculousness. I've never stolen anyone's images. This is very frustrating!  >:(

Hey guys,

Nice illustrations, MisterElements! 

To be clear, we only require a scan or picture of your reference images for vectors/illustrations. We do not require step-by-step images. We also no longer require you to submit the reference image with a filled out property release - a scan or picture of the reference image along with your submission is acceptable.

One of the main reasons we request reference images is so that we can help protect you if there is ever a dispute regarding the ownership of one of your images. Our hope with this policy is that we can reduce the disruption of a contributor's account should there be a complaint about the contributor's content. Our ultimate goal is to prevent the abuse of intellectual property rights, and this policy helps us do this.  In addition, this also helps us maintain the integrity of the collection for customers.

There's more information on the policy here (note that the images are only examples):
http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/how-to-submit-vectors-created-using-other-images

We'll also be updating these posts as questions come up about specific scenarios, so we're communicating policy updates to the widest audience possible at once.  Again, most of these changes seek to either simplify an existing requirement, reduce the number of issues that hit the queues during review (i.e., addressing them proactively will make review faster), or ensure the integrity of the collection. 

We're also working on a dedicated guide on the legal aspects of content creation, which will include information about these questions and issues. 

Best Regards,

Scott
VP of Content
Shutterstock

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New Sites - General / Re: Stockami 50 percent royalty rate
« on: April 10, 2013, 15:15 »
Stockami new permanent 50 percent royalty rate.
Nice to get some good news  :)

Agreed. I hope they keep their word. I've been uploading since the beginning. Made one sale. Not much, but it was encouraging. The Flash uploader is very easy to use.

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GLStock / Re: upload limits
« on: April 08, 2013, 12:11 »
the upload limit is fine,

but can the files stayed there instead of sending them as invalid uploads..

one needs to check again what is missing and what had been uploaded..

Not from my experience. You'll need to find what didn't go through and reupload. :'(

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You should break the link, so he can't track the traffic from this forum.  :D :D

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GLStock / Re: upload limits
« on: April 07, 2013, 18:52 »
GL upload limits doesnt make sense, all the uploadings after upload limits just become invalid..

possible to make it as 'submission limit'? so at least all uploadings can be finished, instead of need to check what had been uploaded and what had been missing.

You just need to stagger them. I know it's a pain, but they're a decent site.

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Screenshot and embed it in the PR


Yuck. I suppose I'll play along if that's what it comes to.

The 2-3 week review times makes this whole situation more frustrating.

Indeed. I'd rather just resubmit and resubmit until they complain before I go through that hassle.

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But how does one provide an original when they create it entirely with software? If they want releases like this they need to require them for every single vector submission. Not some weeks and not others. I can make ink drawings and ink-like drawings. They can't tell which one has an original. So then they've got to require everything has a release. To me, this is unprofessional conduct.

Since dropping my crown, i've been communicating w one of the content managers and was told that now silhouettes even need property release. Seems like they are tightening reviews which i think is a pain but good on the overall nature of this business. harder to abuse copyrighted content.

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Ridiculous arbitrary property release rejections again. Someone there doesn't know what they're doing. I'm fed up and have sent an email of complaint to support.
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129603


Wow. Thanks for sharing this link.

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Ridiculous arbitrary property release rejections again. Someone there doesn't know what they're doing. I'm fed up and have sent an email of complaint to support.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 3 sites you should NOT support
« on: April 02, 2013, 10:32 »
iStock is gettin' a whoopin'!  :o

However, I did like the payout I got from them this month.  8)

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Dreamstime.com / Re: recent halt in sales
« on: March 27, 2013, 21:47 »
Sales are down for sure. I'm a little over a dollar from payout.  :P

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I've not noticed any real delay, @ two days, might be at 3 for my last batch. having a great month, I'm happy.

Seems to not be such a problem for photographers. 3 days is really good.

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Update: All (plus more) with detailed notes to the reviewers, have passed as of a few hours ago. ;D

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Thanks Scott.  :D

Hi Guys,

To add a little background information here - when a group is selected for a more thorough review, it's typically because a reviewer had a specific policy or judgment question or there was a question that our team extended to the contributor, with the subsequent back-and-forth that ensues with Support.

Being put into a more thorough review doesn't indicate that there's any suspicion of wrongdoing.  It can mean that a reviewer has asked for a more authoritative judgment or answer before choosing to accept or reject a group of images (which is a good thing), or that the team is following standard policies and procedures related to ensuring the integrity of the collection (which is also a good thing).  Those procedures are in place to ultimately protect you and your images as a contributor, as well as protect our customers.

We understand that timely delivery is important to earnings and completely understand frustration you might have when there are delays and it's not clear to you why there are delays. There may be features we can add in the future to better communicate back where individual images are in the queue and our ultimate goal is build more transparency.   

Thanks for your patience and understanding in the meanwhile.   

Best,

Scott
VP of Content
Shutterstock



 

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I got my response this afternoon (included a suggestion that they state review times should be "3 weeks" instead of "3 days":

Your suggestion is duly noted and will be added to our team's backlog of ideas. If you are interested, you may also add feedback from within your contributor account as well.

Should you need anything else, please feel free to write back in to us here at Shutterstock.


Not a bad response.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: 999
« on: March 22, 2013, 17:30 »
Shucks, I only have 990 remaining for the week.  ::)

iStock announced today that upload limits for illustrators have been lifted to 999 per week. The reason for lifting this limit to 999 is that nobody comes even close to the current upload levels. So, why would you then lift them to 999? What message are they trying to send?

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6 weeks!? How many releases and blood samples did you give them?  :o

Update...Just had my batch of 20 finally reviewed and approved. I was very happy and grateful. But still no word from support.



So let's see... 6 days for the bogus rejection, 2 weeks for (maybe) a response from support, re-submit, 6 more days for (maybe) approval.

From this, I think we can see just how badly SS wants new images.
Just recently I had such scenario indeed. Took me 6 weeks to get an illustration accepted.

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None. It's been over 3 days since my support contact. Next week will be one month of images sitting in queue. We've all been flagged it seems. Meanwhile all the real image thieves keep uploading without a second glance.  :(

Is anyone currently getting responses to 'support' emails, and if so how long are they taking?

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Yeah, I don't understand it. Not quite hyperbole. But I keep thinking it is hyperbole.

At this point, it's just a web page put up because some new SS marketing guy made a big deal at the Monday meeting about how they're lacking a "premium brand".   Now they start gauging the reaction and, maybe, putting together a real-world concept.

They are clearly standing squarely behind it and banking their reputation on its success. In the video Ben Pfiefer says: "we want Offset to become the go-to place in the marketplace for high end imagery". No ifs or buts.

Very sensible to clearly separate this from Shutterstock. No confusing the buyers over the pricing. It's an impressive video. Maura McEvoy's work is great.

Anyone can make a video.  Let's see some details.

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I won't pull my images out of the queue. However, I find this "flagged" comment from Scott to be disturbing because I have been getting lots of arbitrary rejections for needing releases for my cartoons. So I can only presume that SS suspects I'm tracing other people's work. I've never had such problems. So I have forced myself to create more drawings solely in the computer, but they look like hand-drawn traced with cross-hatching with detailed comments to the reviewers in the submission process. I think you all (at SS) are being unfair.

I am about to go into the 4th week of a pile of 20 illustrations in that queue. I sent my support email.

These are just samples of how SS has been misjudging if work is "traced" or not (hence the probable "flagging" they're doing:

Traced from ink & paper drawing: http://us.fotolia.com/id/49859766
Created in computer 100% in similar ink & paper style: http://us.fotolia.com/id/50343004
Created in Illustrator only: http://us.fotolia.com/id/50512520

12 days and counting. I am thinking of pulling all images and wait until the wait is over. Better chance for the images if they get reviewed and processed quickly. At this moment, the images stand little chance. Buried as soon as they go live.


Hello,

In general, our "regular" image queue can run between 2-6 days, depending on volume.  Our vector queue has been running higher lately due to the overall volume of submissions and because vector review is more specialized and requires specific expertise.  We shift additional specialists to vectors to bring the turnaround time down when volume peaks.

In general, if your images are taking more than 1-2 weeks, that suggests that the batch might have been flagged to be inspected by our most senior reviewers as part of a "second tier" review.  Feel free to email the support team if you suspect something's taking much longer than it should.

In general, we recommend sending images into the system over time (rather than single massive batches of thousands of images on one topic), but we wouldn't recommend taking images out of review and resubmitting.  It would only put you in the back of the queue and I personally don't think there would be any benefit in terms of assuming that it would help your earnings.

Best,

Scott
VP of Content

Hi Scott,


Its 11 batches of only 17 photos. Various subjects. No vectors. I do submit only a few photos over time, but with your review times, you easily build up a large number of files, before a review. With your speed of reviewing, I can only submit 20 images per month. I actually need to hold back now.

I already emailed support, but to get a reply takes about 2-3 week as well.

As you can see, I follow all your advice but its helping no one. In the mean time, money is lost.

Thanks for the reply tho

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