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Messages - Jo Ann Snover

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4526
StockFresh / Re: SF middle tier?
« on: January 29, 2013, 20:48 »
I've had 4 sales in January for a total of $1.70. I don't think that qualifies for any tier!

There are a few people (perhaps mostly illustrators?) who do well there, but I don't see any signs of life

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They asked if there was anything else that would make the point, so I replied with links to Paul Cowan's post in the IS forum and the list of articles that cybernesco is keeping

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/296408432616017921

Not sure if they'll do anything in their magazine with it, but we'll see.

4528
MacTribe tweeted about an interview with Jonathan Klein - including blurb about the award he received last year and the awful quote about protecting IP and contributor livelihoods. So I replied with a link to Sean's blog about the Google mess:

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/296380318284386305

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Just want to introduce myself.Hi
« on: January 29, 2013, 01:31 »
Welcome. If you're willing to show your iStock identity, you can put your member name into the forum profile (Profile menu up top) so people can see who you are on iStock. Given that you used your name, a couple of searches lead me to this portfolio, which I assume is you?

I'm an indie-exclusive-indie so I've been on both sides of the fence. You'll find a ton of perspectives here, most recently on the Getty/Google Drive stock library issue, but on many aspects of being a microstock contributor on other sites (if you're considering whether or not to remain exclusive

4530
Does anyone know how many images are currently available in Google Drive?  I was watching the numbers continue to go up on the kga.me site until it was shut down.  The last figure I saw was slightly over 12,000 images.  Does anyone have current numbers?

I don't. I PM'd Kenny over the weekend to ask if he would make a text list or tell me how I could and host it so we could see that. I haven't heard back from him though. Does anyone have another way - other than PM here - of reaching Kenny?

Or does anyone know how to make a list of filename, with a couple of EXIF extractions (photographer and copyright name) from the Google directory hosting the images?

4531
I'm revamping my web site (related to possibly leaving iStock February 2nd) and posted a blog with some thoughts on this mess

Blog
http://www.digitalbristles.com/time-of-turmoil/

Tweet about blog

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/296013896257515520


Excellent blog Jo Ann!! Certainly like your analogy of us the contributors "Cinderella" versus Getty "the ugly sisters", very fitting, thank you. I have included your link on my site as well.


Thanks - I was thinking of naming Thinkstock and Photos.com as the ugly sisters, but decided against it :) Jonathan Klein is definitely the wicked stepmother though :)

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I'm revamping my web site (related to possibly leaving iStock February 2nd) and posted a blog with some thoughts on this mess

Blog
http://www.digitalbristles.com/time-of-turmoil/

Tweet about blog

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/296013896257515520

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[I just clicked on the istock link at the bottom of the search to see what you had used as an avatar and for some reason the link didn't work.  I then went to istock and put in jsnover as a search term and got up a whole load of images of cocaine sniffing that aren't your images.  Tried it again and the same happened!!!  I wonder why that happened unless jsnover is a foreign word for cocaine.  Very strange.

If you don't accept the user name suggestion that shows in the drop box, my member name appears to be a misspelling of several possibles. If you click on the suggestion in the search box versus just typing the name and hitting return you do get the portfolio. I'm sure that's a feature even if it looks like a bug :)

4534
You absolutely can shoot against the sun and get it accepted but not with 3/4 of the image underexposed - SS doesn't much like heavy shadows and so landscapes in contrasty light can be hard to get accepted. I'd stay away from those in the application although you can take another run at it once you're accepted.

The mass of similar looking rocky landscapes with somewhat dull light and not all that sharp focus is not going to fly at SS. I think the best of that group is the one with the river around the central rock (although it looks as though there's some color banding in the sky top left)

I'd skip that dark beach with the dark rocks and dark building - it's not great stock and there's CA around the contrasty edges.

Give them some subject variety, good focus, simple lighting, good colors, something indoors - not just landscapes if you can manage it. Good luck

4536
I received a reply this morning from Dreasmtime support

"Thank you for contacting Dreamstime Customer Support team. We are aware of this situation and we are monitoring for some time. The problem is that we cannot do much when it comes to Google policies. I will forward your message to our legal team. They are currently evaluating the intensity of the problem and what would be our possible solutions."

4537
Yes, GREAT POST.  Thanks Joanne.

Are our blogs moderated on Istock?  This has likely come up, but can't we all post a blog on our IS profile?

Not really moderated, but I believe they can delete text there if they don't like it. I know from personal experience that they can delete incoming and outgoing site mail if they wish to recall "intemperate" mail they sent so I don't see why the blogs would be exempt.

I did a picture change on my user_view page figuring that'd be harder for them to locate - a text search can't find it

4538
In case some missed it in the iStock forums, Paul Cowan made a wonderful post about where were are in this current mess.

4539
Get rid of the two landscapes.  The last two look like they have a giant sensor spot on the right side.  Try another landscape in place of the ones you have maybe a better version of the cityscape.

It's not a sensor spot, it's something on the roof.


It doesn't matter what it actually is; if it looks like a blemish, get rid of it

In addition to the helpful notes already given, a lot of these images look as if they were a bit soft - perhaps over noise reduced - and then sharpened. This type of technical flaw will make getting approved hard. In the case of the shot of the man in a suit - the one where he's just standing - it's not in focus. They eyes need to be sharp and they aren't.

Don't do zoo animals, flowers, puppies, kittens or sunsets for your application images. These are all very well represented in the collection and unless your shots are stunners, will probably be judged more harshly than other work.  Make sure your whites are white - the shot of the man with the headphones, they aren't. Clean up chromatic aberration (the man with the headphones) and any blemishes or sensor spots. Make sure the focus is good and don't sharpen.

Good luck

4540
These sorts of discussions are akin to religious arguments and I'd recommend staying away.

If there's a discussion about how to get accurate white balance, or use of a gray card, that's worth reading as you can learn about a technique you might want to use.

Any of those "you always..." or "you never..." conversations are generally filled with people who do more talking than shooting :)

4541
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Removing photo from Thinkstock
« on: January 27, 2013, 17:01 »
Slightly off topic in that it isn't about Thinkstock but does relate to their parent company. Anyone know how best to remove files from Getty when you have no account credentials or contract? I didn't agree to the contract offered last year(?) which I thought would nuke my work. Certainly nuked my payments.

How about a DMCA takedown notice for the files of yours still on their site? :)

4542
I'm not sure what specific help I can offer, but I think that having a platform for selling direct would be a great thing for contributors to have access to. Dan noted that ktools leaves a lot to be desired - as did Sean Locke who used that to build AccordStock, his portfolio site.

I don't have the expertise to know whether the warnings above about using WordPress as a base are important, but I can see the appeal of a platform that has an active developer community so that new plugins come along that can be added to a running site to improve it without having to do 100% of the coding yourself. I have to believe that there are ways to secure a WordPress site, and again, the fact that lots of people are using that platform makes it more likely that if there are security problems they will get fixed.

4543
Not sure if this has been posted, but fstoppers has written a story.  They have quite a following - and over 120k Facebook fans.

http://fstoppers.com/when-getty-google-team-up-you-lose


It's in the thread with all the press

4544
The zoom appeared to be working OK - it seemed to have two levels of magnification and then back to full size. Didn't look to me as if it was zooming on a thumbnail but with illustrations or 3D renders perhaps I'm not seeing the pixelization?

Search didn't find a lot of things, but when I looked at individual images, it's the keywording not the search that was the cause. I saw a Christmas background (red) with trees when browsing. I searched for christmas tree and no results. But looking at the image it's because the keyword tree isn't on the image.

In the case of another failed search for easter egg (saw an image browsing and it wasn't found searching) it was because the english keywords were in the description and the other (german?) keywords were in the keyword slot. Not sure if you're appealing to one language market or the other but you'll need to sort out your keywords

Couple of other thoughts. You have XL sizes that are 1600 to 1800 pixels on the long edge. That's a medium at iStock, between M and L at 123rf, between S and M at Dreamstime and so on. I think you're going to confuse buyers familiar with the major sites to have such small sizes with big size names

I also think your prices are pretty high - to buy credits at ! euro each you have to buy 1350 of them (which I have a hard time believing a buyer would do at a one-artist site if I'm being frank) and then I get this small to medium image for 14.3 euros.If you're keeping 100% of the take, I think you might try to help the buyers decide to shop with you - you don't want dirt cheap, but you don't want iStock-level pricing either

4546
I've been learning a little about WordPress in the last day or so and when you upload content into the media manager, the original file goes into wp-content/uploads and WordPress automatically makes small medium and large sizes for you to use in the blog posts or elsewhere on a web site - but the original image is there in the directory too.

So, for example, one of the images found in a Google image search for iStock is from this blog post. The image shown in the blog is downsized by WordPress. The file name for what's shown is istock_dandelionlarge-300x199.jpg

But the Google image search button that says View Original Image doesn't take you to what's shown in the blog but the full size original in the same directory. That image appears if you click on the small image - I assume the fact that it's linked to from the 300x199 version is why Google has picked it up. Not sure if it was within the license terms for the full size image to be displayed like that.

4547
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Getty Clip Art "mirroring" has begun
« on: January 26, 2013, 22:33 »
Also, I don't come to this site very much so if you have further questions please post them back over on iStock so I can reply more quickly.

Jenn, thanks for taking a field trip to make a post here :)

I know you know what a good illustration is, and I think you'll agree that there is a lot of stuff on clipart.com that doesn't meet that test. And as for asking on the iStock forums, I and a growing number of other iStock contributors cannot do that as we've been banned. Hence lots of the chat happens here :)

4548
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Staying Power
« on: January 26, 2013, 17:21 »
I think that for most decisions of this sort, there are the side effects of staying and the real or perceived side effects of leaving.

Even when we hate the cable company, bank or insurance company (or all three), as long as they keep the pain low enough, we hang around. The companies may mistake this for loyalty, but it's not at all. Knowing that the alternative banks or insurance companies are likely equally unpleasant is one reason we often stay.

Push hard enough - as some companies do, emboldened by what they see as their success with earlier moves - and they can tip the scales and make it easier for people to decide to deal with the pain of moving elsewhere.

I like that quote at the end - that we're holding ourselves hostage in some ways. The fact that economic times have been tough has been an added factor - people are afraid, not without reason, that it'll be hard to make up the income should they make a change. Certain micros make the decision easier when income levels are falling for those who stay - if they're going to fall anyway, why not risk the switch where there's at least a chance things will get better?

4549
Veer / Re: Is Veer safe?
« on: January 26, 2013, 15:12 »
Sales come slowly at Veer, but they delivered a $3.77 RPD for me in 2012. I actually made 60% more at Veer than I did at BigStock, even with fewer sales.

Similar for me - I made 33% more at Veer with only 800+ images than I did at BigStock with twice that many.

The big problems with Veer are that they pay the standard Veer payout on partner sales - regardless of what the partner site actually charged customers - and that there is no opt out of partner sales or their lack-lustre subscriptions.

Secondarily their review system is slow and bizarre - rejecting landscapes for lack of production value or too editorial for Veer customers for example. I know which images sell from the other sites and also that their site hasn't covered the subject, but they still reject.

They've also stopped any form of communication with contributors, so I've stopped uploading - I stopped when the Alamy mess happened and never restarted.

Periodically the contributor side of the site just stops working and it is weeks before they do anything. It just doesn't feel to me as if they're serious about the business, even though I keep hoping they may do something to perk things up. With Corbis as their parent though, I don't think there's any reason for optimism.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: D-Day (Deactivation Day) on Istock - Feb 2
« on: January 26, 2013, 15:04 »
Slight tangent, but I wanted to point out that for those possibly having to delete everything (or all but a few to wait for this month's PP payout next month) February 2nd - D-Day - when you do your payout request this week, consider not clearing your balance to zero so you can be certain of being over the $100 threshold no matter how crappy sales are next week and in the January PP.

I normally pull out my entire balance each time, but this week left money so I can be certain of a cash-out if I end up leaving February 2nd. Even if I bail, I'm going to keep my account open (with an image or two) so I can keep my stats. That means, I think, that there's no chance of a payout under the limit (I think if you close your account they pay you?).

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