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« on: June 24, 2012, 10:02 »
Jeez, how many days is it taking for new approvals to land in your port these days? I haven't seen these shots since I got the approval notices on Wednesday.
About 1 week for me 
477
« on: June 20, 2012, 17:13 »
Growing quite nicely for me. Also wondering how that price cut is going to affect revenue.
478
« on: June 19, 2012, 16:05 »
479
« on: June 19, 2012, 09:20 »
ETA: deleted a load of stuff cos it ain't worth it
Back on topic, I predict that this will be just another way for people who don't own the copyright to make a quick buck before they get DMCA'd.
Give it a year and the site will be full of holiday snapshots and quality (but stolen) work
Excellent point.
481
« on: June 17, 2012, 15:31 »
sophisticated scam
"Trads" always said that microstock is an extremely unsophisticated scam.
New Oxford American Dictionary: scam |skam| noun informal a dishonest scheme; a fraud : [with adj. ] an insurance scam. verb ( scammed , scamming ) [ trans. ] swindle : a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings. DERIVATIVES scammer noun ORIGIN 1960s: of unknown origin.
482
« on: June 17, 2012, 13:11 »
I've seen this many times but don't understand how the keyword is expressed if the button is selected accidentally?
Whatever keyword(s) they searched on will automatically be the ones expressed when they hit the flag button.
Exactly. Design flaw. Hopefully they'll fix it. I sent them a message about it once. And don't even try posting on their forum about the subject. It will be deleted. Send your message directly to them.
483
« on: June 17, 2012, 13:09 »
My decision to change the thread title had nothing to do with money - Yotola hasn't given me a dime. Not in terms of stock sales or ads or otherwise. It had only to do with providing a fair starting point for the discussion, simple as that.
Thanks for the membership though - it won't give you more 'influence' but it will remove the ads as you say, and it will fund a kiva loan
Understood. I use Kiva as well. I'm not trying to buy influence. I'm trying to put my money where my mouth is. I did some complaining and did very little action. The membershipand including a call for everyone else to donateis that action. However, I do hope you hold the same standards of same fair starting point for all discussions on the forum.
484
« on: June 17, 2012, 12:56 »
Yeah, I changed the title of the thread after receiving an email from Yotola.
I am not supportive of the way Yotola has their site set up or even their business model but I am a believer in giving everyone (or at least trying to give everyone) a fair platform, so I changed the thread title to be more neutral in stance. If someone does a search for Yotola on google and wants read some opinions there is plenty of food for thought inside the thread despite the neutrality of the thread title.
Although I disagree, I understand your position.
485
« on: June 17, 2012, 12:51 »
I think the topic title should have stayed as the original. There were so many topics with offensive titles regarding istock or fotolia or other big agencies that make the most of our money, but if some rep of some site (yotola-who?) asks here, the moderator changes the title. WTH is this? I am more and more getting fed up with what's going on in this forum.
Regarding the subject, this smells scam really bad and as Sean said, it's just one more nail in the coffin.
Dribble, dude - you surely are not that (insert_censored_word_here), yes? You can "contribute" to these guys, of course. Maybe this way you'll add some value to your work. I'll be number 23 on the list of people who ignore you - and you my one and only ignored creature.
Here is a good example of not pissing off the "buyer." Tyler must have to play go-between -- between his "paying" customers and active forum participants. After all, the forum is paid by advertisers.
Well, since you so prudently reminded us that money talks, I just bought premium membership at microstockgroup.com. So not only am I an active forum participant, but now I'm a "paying" one. I can't afford to buy those ads at microstockgroup.com (which I will no longer need to see). But I can do something and encourage Tyler to keep up the good work. That wayassuming Yotola doesn't beat me to itI'll have more money in the forum than them. cI encourage all of you that regularly use this forumand especially those annoyed with people wanting our work for ONE PENNYto do the same. $25 (or 2,500 "free" downloads of your best sellingor rejectedimages), if it means we can secure a safe haven from unscrupulous BUYERS.
486
« on: June 17, 2012, 11:24 »
Looks like someone posted something about Yotola in the iStock off-topic forumand it was promptly deleted...Understandably so.
Seriously? The post a video on their site with a detailed explaination on how to rip off istock-contributors and they dare to post about their site on the istock forum? What were they thinking...
Yep, I found it with yippy.com search engine. If anyone is going to remove yotola links from their forum, it would definitely be istock! 
487
« on: June 17, 2012, 10:42 »
Looks like someone posted something about Yotola in the iStock off-topic forumand it was promptly deleted...Understandably so.
488
« on: June 17, 2012, 09:39 »
I didn't see anything illegal on their site and while I thought there were lots of unanswered questions I wouldn't have used the scam word myself. I can see the point of removing the Scam? word by the moderator simply to avoid hassles. In fairness, there are so many intentionally misleading pitches on the internet, this one only reaches my category of mildly offensive.
I think the sensitivity on this subject stems from the irritation of having someone else changing one's words that were used in good faith.
Lou you are providing an excellent example of being rational. Thank you for bringing balance. However, legal and illegal is not always moral. Slavery was legal in the United States. But many privileged Americans believed it was wrong. I know life isn't that simple. But I wanted to address that word.
489
« on: June 17, 2012, 08:18 »
I was going to let Yotola save face, but since they couldn't handle the heat, I'm going to share with you something: Yes, all of you have been deceived and you are being manipulated. I want to tell you that I did not change the subject line. A person from Yotola actually sent me a direct message, requesting that I change it. I still have the message to prove it! The reason was they are new and my "Yotola (scam)" subject line was showing up in the search engines. Yep, that's the truth!!! I stated that by principle I could not because "Yotola (scam?)" was a sincere question and not an accusation. But after many of you confirmed my instincts and I got this benevolent censorship request, I knew I definitely couldn't change it! So what do I change it to? Yotola (slickness?); Yotola (scheme?); Yotola (hustle?). If you don't like what you see in the search engines, then do good deeds and provide fairness and justice to those who work for you! Was I trying to make them look bad? No, I found them and was intrigued. For a minute, I was hooked into their bait and switch hard sell landing page. But it smelled wrong and I thought I'd ask the experts here on Microstockblog. I thought I'd compromise: I responded that I was offended by Yotola and soYotola contact the owner/moderator of this forum with a request to change the subject. Well, looks like it happened. Sure the owner has a livelihood and a reputation to maintain. But I'll admit, I was taken aback. Wondering on whose side the owner is on. Maybe both sides. Maybe my days at microstockgroup are numbered. But I don't care. As evidenced by the responses here, the sales and marketing strategy Yotola is using is unethical and offensive to many. I hope they take this crowd-sourced study on the forum seriously enough to reconsider their scheme (not a perjorative). We're already paid pennies. Now we are expected to make ONE PENNY on some magical promise of advertisers "lined up" to pay money to advertise ( good luck in overpowering people's Firefox AdBlock Plus as they download our images for FREE!!!)  No, none of these "free" sites tell you that do they!!!!! They may get United Airlines, Ford and Apple as advertisers. But folks will never see the ad with AdBlock Plus! And with 3,200 5-star average reviews, you can tell lots of people use AdBlock Plus! I may end up being an old microstock fossil, but I'm going to speak out and express my opinion. Sorry to hurt your feelings Yotola, but you're a bunch of bullies. You hit a bunch of my classmates and I'm going to stand up to you, even if it means I get piled into the ground. Although you might get big and fat enough one day to pull more magnificent manipulations, like iStuck, eventually you'll need to reap what you sow. Good luck my photographer, illustrator and videographer friends. The battle for our dignity is at a new level of intensity of huge proportions.
490
« on: June 16, 2012, 16:49 »
I believe most of those flags you'll get are from people trying to add your image to their lightbox or other nice deed. DT needs to put the flag button somewhere else. I get lots of them: A picture of rocks flagged for using the word "rocks"
491
« on: June 16, 2012, 15:12 »
One sale of an ED today finally pushed me over the $10K lifetime earnings total on Shutterstock and I get to reap the rewards of 38c per download!!
Its amazing when I look back - in January 2010 I earned $60.91 on Shutterstock, in May 2012, $636. All it takes is endless hard work and the support and ideas of this forum!
Thanks guys...
Steve
That's great! Keep up the good work. It's inspiring. 
492
« on: June 16, 2012, 08:28 »
If this is such a good idea (giving free files an monetize through ads) I wonder why the free downloads leader, sxc. hu (the one used as example in the video, with these so many downloads underlined) is not brimming with ads. Actually, it just have istock ads, and, even when it was not owned by getty, and getting tens of thousands of downloads publicity and banners were very scarce (and all related to micro RF sites). When their owners wanted to monetize, what they did was to create a regular microstock site, as we all now. In my opinion, this is the kind of plan that can give some money to the owners and near to nil to the photographers. Don't fall in this trap.
From the perspective of someone that believes that not everyone wants something for nothing, this business model takes a cynical view of people. That is, this model presumes no one wants to pay for anything. They want to steal and get away with itor at least feel that it is justified. I seriously know that manynot allfolks want to pay something for high quality work. They understand the legal and moral ramifications of "free" and they don't want to be bothered with wasting time debating with their conscienceor a cease-and-desist email from an enraged artist/lawyer. Yes I'm an idealist. Yes, loop, it smells like a trap.
493
« on: June 16, 2012, 08:12 »
Exclusive 'Artist'
Portfolio Number: 695
June Downloads: 2
June Royalties: 9.95$
Woww Yay
That looks pretty bad. Sorry to see it. Maybe you should consider leaving the exclusive crown.
494
« on: June 15, 2012, 20:43 »
They probably got it the same way that they got mine... My domain registrations aren't private.
It bothers me that Yotola has a private domain registration yet they use public domain registrations for sales calls. If you don't like folks doing sales calls to you, then don't do them yourself.
495
« on: June 15, 2012, 17:18 »
Currently, we are polishing off site development and then plan to have a big launch in the coming weeks. Unlike other stock photo sites, we want to take it slow and create a win-win situation for everyone.
Yotola may not work for everyone as some people maybe making good money on every single image they produce. However, the response we have got on our site has been extremely positive and we already have some high quality photographers who are ready to contribute.
Our site now has a live chat with some members of our team waiting to answer any specific questions you may have on Yotola.
Thank you,
Yotola
So where are you and your team located? The voice on the video sounds like a Chicago accent. Are these advertisers selling family-friendly products and services? I see a lot of "free" stuff websites actually get their revenue from adult entertainment. Do you have any experience as an artist or business for that matter? Have any of the "high quality photographers" begun uploading yet?
496
« on: June 15, 2012, 09:24 »
this is just great!
1 - they tell you that nobody is buying pictures, they are getting them on google, free sites or even cleaning watermark
2 - the demand on pictures is HUGE
3 - buyer will get it for free but they will pay you 1 cent (money from ads)
why are we going to "sell" our work for 1 cent if we can get a ton more 
I am sure this wont go anywhere, perhaps only snappers shooting cats and dogs on PS cameras
Now you can earn money from your rejected and non-downloaded images on other microstock sites which is probably 2/3 of your images.
who . is doing stock if they get 67% of their pics rejected??
No, they say, "over two thirds of your images are either rejected or never downloaded". We don't know where they get this figure from though.
There's no contact form, email address or number on their site. To sign up they ask for your phone number. Both of these things would be big warning signs to the average person.
They list free photo sites, they show ways of stealing images (for people who don't already know). It's pretty transparent that these guys don't give a f*ck about the artists, so they may end up doing very well.
Yeah, that rejection thing is ridiculous. Most of my images sell and my rejections are near zerowith the exception of iStuck. I think the same for most of you out here too. But iStuck is at the end of their dominance anyway. So their rejections mean nothing to me.
497
« on: June 15, 2012, 09:10 »
Technical Contact
Fundacion Private Whois
Domain Administrator
Email:
Attn: yotola.com
Aptds. 0850-00056
Zona 15 Panama
Panama
Tel: +507.65995877
Its Fundacion Private Whois domain, meaning the whois is wrong. I just did a google search, the owners registered the domain by http://www.internetbs.net/
That address means nothing.
Yikes. "internet...bs..." in the domain registrar name. That is tripped out! 
498
« on: June 14, 2012, 21:47 »
I don't believe this is a scam. I foresaw this concept a few years ago so the pitch is no surprise. The question is will it be worthwhile to upload. The income projections were vague to say the least but I image the payment to photographers will be in the .01 to .02 per download. No idea what the payout amount will be.
I'm no longer uploading to any of my current sites, mainly due to spending my computer time on my more artistic interests. But I'd love to keep track of Yotola to see what happens.
Not sure what we'll call this new concept. Maxi-Mini Microstock?
Maybe so. I think "wait and see" would be the best thing to do at this point.
499
« on: June 14, 2012, 21:28 »
I got this email too, today. I went to the site and pretty much immediately left. I can't say what the company is all about, but the look and feel of the site turned me off.
Yep. Looks like a dangerous neighborhood. Thanks for confirming my smell test, Cory.
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« on: June 14, 2012, 21:16 »
 http://yotola.com/They promise to help you earn money for the images rejected on other sites. Seems like a hard sell and too good to be true. Also, if it works, it seems like it will ruin the market. What do you think? -- admin edit: changing thread title.
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