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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock generative AI reminders
« on: August 30, 2023, 14:20 »
On istock they have a clear reminder that even if a small part is changed with ai, it is ai generated and cannot be sent to istock.

On Adobe it would have to be marked as generated with ai tools.

including AI features in PS? content aware fill, upcoming generative fill to extend backgrounds, and especially neural filters?

these effects are not traceable, and have never been considered ai generated in the past

Totally agree there's a gray line here.  Using AI tools like content aware fill, background extension etc. is not the same as generating an image in Midjourney.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock generative AI reminders
« on: August 30, 2023, 02:59 »
With all this going on, I am not submitting any images containing AI content ... so far.  However, I do enjoy using Midjourney and other AI programs, and I do have several images containing AI generated parts.  I just don't submit them.


What about this situation :
A normal photograph, shot with a camera, containing fully model released people on a fully released background.  BUT, I did not like the cleavage of one of the models, and I made it more modest using AI software.
According to Mat, I think I should submit this image as "AI generated" + add the model and property releases of the real people and background.
Correct ?
Seems not correct to me, as I do have the raw file of the photo, just not the lady's cleavage ...
This is just a non-existing example, but for me, it is the reason why I don't submit these images to Adobe.

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I'm not charged any additional fee from Payoneer when receiving payments from Shutterstock. Where did you see this fee?

When I receive payments from SS, no additional fees are charged.
But if I receive payments from AS (over $100), then $3.00 fees will be deducted.


Same here!

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I'm "waking up" this old topic, because I noticed that Payoneer is not so favorable anymore.
Today I received 245 dollars from Depositphotos, and only 242 dollars "arrived" in my Payoneer account.  A withdrawal request into euros would result into 212,23 euros.
I stopped the procedure, and did a simulation of the same 245 dollars with Paypal, and this simulation resulted in 213,31 euros, on the same day.
Did anything change at Payoneer, resulting in less favorable exchange rates, or an extra fee?

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I have no crystal ball, but there is also this possibility :  in 10 years, people might 've gotten so used to AI and working with AI generators, that there is no longer any NEED for stock agencies - people will generate the images and videos themselves, without using stock agencies.  The libraries could be completely obsolete.  So what will be left for us?  Direct clients: photographing the people (and their pets) for portraits.  Beside stock photography, I'm also a newborn photographer, and at this moment, I can't see how AI will be able to replace that in the near future.  People will still want to document the important life events like births and weddings.  People will still want a beautiful portrait of their family, in their best dresses, with makeup and the whole "experience" of a photo session?  So who will be the losers then?  The agencies themselves?

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Even Adobe's corporate spin at various public events has included the importance of being transparent - tagging AI generated images as such - and surely that has to include the Adobe Stock collection.
"As a trusted partner to individuals and businesses of all sizes, Adobe develops and deploys all AI capabilities with a customer-centric approach and according to its AI Ethics principles to ensure content and data transparency. Content Credentials provide nutrition labels for digital content and are a key pillar of Adobes AI principles."


Adobe also tells its customers they can "trust" Adobe because they compensated their artists for the use of the database ...
Even if they "plan" to do this in the near/far future, it is/was not true when they launched Firefly and started accepting AI images as stock.

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General Photography Discussion / Re: DPReview closing down
« on: June 22, 2023, 00:05 »
This is good news, but only if they keep the comparison tool.  Camera buying guides and reviews can be found everywhere, but I really liked their side by side comparison tool.

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The second paragraph has nothing to do with the first.


I agree, but the "collectively the Contributor" applies to the entire document ...

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I have a 2004 Shutterstock model release, and the form is essentially the same. Other agencies have the same idea, but it's expressed differently and thus sounds less worrying.

I believe the reason this hasn't caused any problems is that a model cannot grant rights to anyone that the model doesn't have, and thus there is no way they can grant SS copyright in a photograph when the model doesn't have that in the first place.

The essential part of that sentence is that the model is not making a claim on the copyright; agreeing that the rights are "...free and clear from any claims by me or anyone acting on my behalf."


Very true ... but you might expect from a company like Shutterstock - who I'm sure have a big team of lawyers - would be able to write a less ambiguous sentence.

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OK, I'm sure you will tell me this has been in the MR for months/years, but I only noticed today ...
It's been a while since I needed a MR, so I thought I had better adjust mine and make it closer to the 2023 Shutterstock release.


Must say I was unpleasantly surprised to read this :
I (the Model) hereby grant to the Contributor and Shutterstock Inc. (collectively "the Contributor") the right to ....  (bla bla) ...
and in the next paragraph :
I hereby agree that all rights in and to the Content, including the copyright, are and shall remain the sole property of the Contributor ....


What ? ??


Of course, there is no problem for myself, as I always make a "generic" model release, NOT mentioning Shutterstock or any other Agency, but are there really photographers that simply copy this text ?


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General Photography Discussion / Re: DPReview closing down
« on: April 12, 2023, 02:21 »
What I will miss most is the side-by-side camera or lens comparisons.  You can do that at on-line camera shops of course, but only with cameras that are still on the market.  So where do we go now for a comparison between an OLD and a NEW camera ...

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Bigstock.com / Re: Message from Bigstock - why?
« on: April 05, 2023, 10:10 »
If you have a link in the email like this : http://big.stock-p.hoto.com/instanthack , you should not visit  ;D

hahaha, thanks for the warning!

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Bigstock.com / Re: Message from Bigstock - why?
« on: April 05, 2023, 09:51 »
I have not received minimum payout yet so I didn't receive the email, but the minimum cashout is $30, so why would you leave your fortune sitting in your account?


I usually cash out 1x per year at Bigstock.
But that's not what this is about - the question is :  why do they urge me to cash out, while it is in their own interest if I just forget about it ?

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Bigstock.com / Message from Bigstock - why?
« on: April 05, 2023, 08:09 »
Now WHY on earth do I get the e-mail message below?  They are my lowest earner (3 to 5 eur/month) and I have only 54 EUR  waiting there ... 
Is this their subtle way of telling me the end of BS is getting closer?  Anyone else got this mail?

Did you know you are leaving money behind in your Bigstock account? Cash in this Spring by taking a moment to collect the money your creative work has earned you!
Here are the steps you need to take:
   Complete a Tax form: To receive payments, all contributors must have an approved tax form on file. If you dont have one on file already, read how to submit a new tax form in a few easy steps here.
   Request a payment: On the main page under 'Commissions' in your account, you will see the 'Payment Preferences' area. Select (or edit) the payment email address for electronic payments to be sent to an existing verified PayPal or MoneyBookers/Skrill account by clicking on the button next to your choice. Then, simply click the 'Request Commissions' button and your request will be sent to us.
Contact our support team if you have any questions and well be glad to assist you!
Thank you,
The Bigstock team



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Is this for your entire portfolio?  I remember that DST used to push non-selling images in the free section, but surely not your entire portfolio ?

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So we are supposed to accept XX % less depending on the dollar rate.  During my years in microstock, this XX has been between -9% (2022) and -49% (2008) !!


On top of that, Adobe will be PAYING in dollars, which will cost us between 2,5% (payoneer) and 3,5% (paypal). 


Did Adobe not know they can PAY in euros?  Canstock just changed this to our benefit :  I am EARNING in dollars at Canstock, but I'm PAID in euros, so I can skip the Paypal fee there.

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-Submit each file as an illustration, even if it resembles a photograph
-Include "generative AI" in your title and as an individual keyword.
-Add "generative" and "AI" as additional individual keywords.
Thank you,
Mat Hayward


Hi Mat,
Thanks, that is clear to me, but I still have a question about model releases. 
Is there a difference in the way I submit the following images :
- a photo (non AI) of a real person photoshopped into an AI background + model release signed by the model
- an image fully created in AI, with a non-existing person created in AI + model release signed by me


Buyers never see the model releases - they cannot even see if a model release exists - so my question is :  how does a buyer know if the person in the image is real or not?  Is there something the artist can/should do to let de buyer know ?

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Happy New Year to all!


I might submit some of my Midjourney results this year, so I was searching the Adobe database to learn more.
However, I found images that were clearly Midjourney generated, without the "AI generated" label - I have no problem with that, but I do have a question :  in search mode, how to filter only model released images ?
In the left column (filtering), I can select "illustrations" and "with people", but is there anyway to find out if an image is model released?  This would enable a buyer to know if the "AI generated person" in the image is depicting a real person or a fictitious one?


Example :  if I search for "child reading fairy tale bear" + illustration filter :
- "with people" enabled gives me 80% illustrations WITHOUT people (lots of teddy bears, books etc.)
- "without people" enabled gives me 15% images with AI generated people (some without the AI tags)


So how does a buyer know if the person in the illustration depicts a real person or not?  and how can a buyer find out if a model release has been submitted or not?  (of course, this last question has nothing to do with AI generated content).
If "without people" means "no model release", then clearly quite a few early submissions got through without a release.  But if "with people" means there is a MODEL release, then why do we get so many bear/book illustrations ?   




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Let's take a real-life situation (at least it's real-life for me) :  suppose I "create" a beautiful background of romantic woodlands, or a victorian interior, or anything in Midjourney (or any other AI program) and I use it as a background for a cut-out photo of a real living model.  So the model is a photo and needs a model release, and the background is AI generated.


If I put this image in my Adobe portfolio for sale, it should be submitted as an illustration with AI Generated in title and keywords.  And because it is AI generated, reviewers will assume the woman/model is also AI generated, so not needing a model release ... 


I think I already know the answer :  submit as illustration and add a MR, but how will this affect search?  If a buyer searches for a model in romantic woodlands, and he/she ticks the "with people" button, which images will appear?  Only the ones with MR, or also the images with an AI person in it ?  Interesting problem?


Would like to hear Matt's opinion about this ...

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Bigstock.com / Bigstock Bridge is closed ...
« on: October 22, 2022, 10:08 »
As Bigstock hardly sells anything for me, it took a few months before I noticed my portfolio at BS was not increasing anymore (while I was still uploading to SS).
A short e-mail to Bigstock and I got a (surprisingly fast) reply :


"Thanks for reaching out to Bigstock Contributor Care. We truly appreciate your contributions to our collections during all these years! Unfortunately, they have reported that the Bridge Program between Shutterstock and Bigstock is closed; it will remain that way until further notice. If you like to submit the same content you have approved from one platform to the other, it will not be marked as a duplicate, however, you will have to do it manually. "

Must say I cannot feel happy or sad about this, but just in case you wondered, it's not a bug, the "bridge" is closed.
And no, I have no plans to start uploading manually.  Not for 9 dollars per month.

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AI is just a tool, like 3D rendering and other apps that help create images. the images created with  these apps have the creator's copyright - none of the AI tools attemp.t to claim such a copyright


For Midjourney that is only partially correct.  Yes, the person who types in the instructions owns the copyright and can sell the images, BUT unless you took the most expensive "private" subscription to the software (more than 50 euros per month on top of the standard subscription), every other subscriber can see, download and use your images.  And you don't have the raw format to prove they are yours ...  So yes, you absolutely have the (copy)right to sell them, but knowing that some one else can do the same thing with the same images does give an "insecure" feeling.

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We're all talking about "pure" AI generated images here, but since I'm "playing" on Midjourney (so much fun!), I can see a lot of potential for backgrounds.  It is great to be able to offer my studio clients more than the standard studio backdrops.  Midjourney makes absolutely wonderful "fairytale like" landscapes, and if I photograph a client with the right direction of lighting, I can offer her a portrait both with standard background + photoshopped into a Midjourney backdrop.  This is completely OK with Midjourney (free commercial use).


1 step further would be submitting real, model released people photos with AI backgrounds to stock agencies.  Since that is obviously not allowed by most agencies, I will not put any effort in creating these for stock, but what a pity!  So much potential lost ...

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Canva / Re: Anyone having problems with Canva payment?
« on: September 16, 2022, 02:12 »
I got mine as well and the fee also disappeared.

However, there is one thing different with paypal: I get my Canva payment in $, but the main currency of my paypal account is . Usually I have my total PayPal balance shown in and underneath I have a breakdown of how much of it is and how much is $. But now I only get shown one total amount, no $ in my account anymore. Not a big deal, just wondering. Anyone who's main currency is not $ seeing the same?


No change here. I also have dollars & euros at PayPal and the Canva money went to the dollar amount, just as always (with the difference that I also had the payment "pending" for 24 hours)

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Corrected here too!  And very "normal".
Looks like some one at Canva will have to do some explaining to the boss ...
(may be he/she was recruited from 123rf?)

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My average per month of Royalties lies between 150 and 250 $ ... today I find ... 0,21 dollars royalties as "my share". 
Put that into a percentage, I get about 99,84% down ...
I would believe something like 10 or 20% down, but going from 150 to zero ? 
So this must be a mistake OR Canva did not sell anything last month, at all ?
(by the way, my individual sales went "up" from 5 to 8 dollars from July to August, so there was no reason to expect this)

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