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Bigstock.com / Re: BigStock's "Adjustments"
« on: September 24, 2010, 17:05 »
I have just noticed in my commission page at BigStock a field called "Adjustments:" subtracting US$1 from my balance.

Is it their way for saying "we took a fake credit card"?

I don't know madelaide but I've got one that's been sitting there for -.50 cents for awhile. I just figured it was because of a bad credit card.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Volume of Submissions Now Reducing?
« on: September 22, 2010, 23:22 »

 the Equinox is tonight, full Moon tomorrow night, for those who care about such things. :D

Hmmm I wonder how loud the wolves will be howling tomarrow???? :D

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DepositPhotos / Re: Recent trend on DP
« on: September 22, 2010, 18:07 »
That's not uncommon. A lot of sites take the money back out of your account for a returned sale.

Shouldn't credit cards have an insurance against unauthorised use?
I wonder if they are charging twice: once from the credit card insurance and once by not paying us.

That insurance is for the person using the card. It protects them from unauthorized charges. The stock site wouldn't get the money. Also if some one is using someone else credit's, they would have to refund those charges to the original person. Therefore it comes out of your end. Not all sites do that, but some do.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: OK...not really new...but trying again :)
« on: September 22, 2010, 17:59 »
I agree with FD....those portraits are beautiful!!
I added her as fav on Dreamstime. Hopefully she will be back. Portraiture is still the max, imho. I started doing it when I was 14 and my mom was my main subject. I had a lot of encouragement from her when she slapped me in the face since I over-emphasized her eye-bags it seems.  ;D
Since then I took the advice of a famous French portraiture painter: picture the women 20 kgs slimmer and 20 years younger and their jewelry 20x fatter.  :P

And with a bigger chest, LOL.  My husband once painted a portrait of his brother, his wife, and their son, using a photo as the basis.  She was pretty flat-chested, so he actually went to a lot of trouble to enlarge what she had naturally.  

So what's the first thing she says when he presents this work of art, the product of weeks of effort, to them?  Thank you, perhaps?  No.  Of course it was "Why did you make my boobs look so small?!"

Believe me I know what a pain it is painting a portrait. I did oil painting for many years and used photos taken by me, to paint from. Just trying to get things to look right with out haven't to "touch up the boobs" is hard enough......lol

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Newbie Discussion / Re: OK...not really new...but trying again :)
« on: September 22, 2010, 17:52 »
I agree with FD....those portraits are beautiful!!
I added her as fav on Dreamstime. Hopefully she will be back. Portraiture is still the max, imho. I started doing it when I was 14 and my mom was my main subject. I had a lot of encouragement from her when she slapped me in the face since I over-emphasized her eye-bags it seems.  ;D
Since then I took the advice of a famous French portraiture painter: picture the women 20 kgs slimmer and 20 years younger and their jewelry 20x fatter.  :P

I added her also. Her portraits are just amazing.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: OK...not really new...but trying again :)
« on: September 22, 2010, 15:32 »
I agree with FD....those portraits are beautiful!!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Copyright Basics USA
« on: September 22, 2010, 14:57 »
I'm going to have to research that.....I thought it was 75 years between 1922 and 1978. We just recently are republishing a book that was published in 1964. Of course we retain copyright to the book but thought that was only good for 75 years...not 95.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Recent trend on DP
« on: September 22, 2010, 14:50 »
anyone got something like returned sale?

i had 2 sales and another 2 returned sales, 1 returned sale is in June and one is in Sep. I emailed then and it is said it was because of stolen credit, so the transaction is invalid.

but i am still suprised how 'lucky' i am to get 2 returned sales(subs) out of 4 download in long period. my question is the files sure had been downloaded, but the transaction just didn't push through and dp didn't get the payment.

so it seems the security and the system there is very faulty, or some thieves are active there. Anyway, returned sales had never happened to me to other websites.

That's not uncommon. A lot of sites take the money back out of your account for a returned sale. Some put a hold on your funds until the transaction clears. That way they are not paying out money that they have not fully received. The only way this could be avoided would be to put a hold on the image until the transaction clears, but that would never work because a buyer needs that image now...not two weeks from now, so it's just a hazard of selling stock.

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I believe they are planning to use Getty for Macro...iStock for mid stock and ThinkStock for the subs which I personally believe is where the non-exclusives will end up if they choose not to go exclusive. I've stated this many times already and I don't know if this will happen but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it did happen. Only time will tell.

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I don't know who said it above, but I don't think any exclusive should be comfortable with dls numbers decreasing as long as income is increasing. I already said this once, but that is a fairly short-sighted, destructive way to manage your business. after 2008 when dl numbers fell for everyone pretty much, I started watching my numbers increase steadily. granted, money is increasing exponentially while dl number are creeping up slowly....but both are moving upward and that's what I want to see.

It's strange that that has ended up being the iStock strategy. HQ has never confirmed it, but it has seemed like the company was headed for a midstock model for several years now. Just not sure it's a good way to go. There is so much potential in lower-priced high-volume content. When you could get an X-Small image for your blog for $1, it didn't take much debate to click the Purchase button. At $3.00 or more for the same image, it's a different story.

It looks like iStock is betting on midstock to be the more profitable and long-term successful model, but I wouldn't bet on microstock and $1 images going out of demand.

Why do you think they developed ThinkStock?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Volume of Submissions Now Reducing?
« on: September 22, 2010, 10:27 »
Do those current pending images at iStock include the "Agency collection"? I don't know if they have to be inspected by iStock, but if they do that could explain the increase in the pending pool.

Edit: Sorry Lisa I didn't see your post....exactly what I was thinking.

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Image Sleuth / Re: Images on Zazzle
« on: September 21, 2010, 17:32 »
Well there you go. Thanks I never would have checked there if it was not for this post. I don't think I can take any more. Would someone please actually pay for my image, I would like to earn money from my work. I imagine in a few days I will become numb to all the *insult removed* out there who steal my work.

http://www.zazzle.com/skeletons_trees_roots_skateboard-186819646325416923


I commented on it Renee. We will see if they follow the advice.

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StockFresh / Re: StockFresh - from Peter Hamza and Andras Pfaff
« on: September 21, 2010, 10:56 »

We are doing most of what you have described but guess what? It's still not enough... :) There's just an insane amount of images coming in. We are now at 300,000! Had to order a ton of hard disks the other day. We obviously don't want to disappoint anyone, but it's not realistic to expect us to have the capacity of the biggest agencies so soon after the launch.

Sounds like you got a lot of contributors coming your way. I think I'll do you a favor and wait til you catch up to submit my application. ;D

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123RF / Re: How's this site in earnings?
« on: September 21, 2010, 10:44 »
I personally have no luck with 123RF and quit uploading to them a long time ago. My port just sits there because I have never reached payout. Once in a great while I receive a sale. Some others on here get regular sales, though it's not a top earner for many of them. It all depends on rather you have the style their buyers a looking for. I do much better on Bigstock. Most of those who do go on 123RF do good with Fotolia, which was another on of my terrible earners so I deleted my port there. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you do good with Fotolia, then more than likey you'll do ok with 123RF.

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I understand the argument that everyone has the right to complain about changes and everyone deserves a fair commission, etc.  Which I 100% agree with.  There's a faction here that says downloads don't matter, and there's a faction that says that past performance does matter in judging the validity of the argument.  I do believe that DLs and tenure do matter because the statistical reference point that a person that has 38 downloads over 1 year or 500 downloads over 5 years carries much less weight than someone who is at 12000 dls over 3 years or something like that.  Experience is a huge player in almost any job and this is obviously no different.  

I'm not saying that people with crappy ports or low dls do not have valid arguments, and in a lot of cases they do, what I'm saying is that when people who are predicting the future from a such a small reference sample its hard to take that prediction seriously given the lack of data/experience to back up claims.

Then there's always those that just go off the deep end anyways....whatever it is...this off topic reply is just to try to incorporate the idea that dls and experience and portfolio exposure do matter a bit more than many peopel here are willing to admit.

Oh I agree with what you say. Those with large ports do have more experience. The impact with the cuts will be felt more because their sales are more as well as their income, but you must also realize that if even a thousand contributors with small ports of say 100 or 500 leave....that's a loss of between 100,000 to 500,000 photos. If 500 with larger ports of say 2000, were to leave that is a loss of 1,000,000 more photos. Maybe it won't happen that way, only time will tell.

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Donding-Member for 4 years. 400 downloads.

Yup....thats me.... ;D

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Oh theyll pay for sure.  Id be betting theyre already starting to feel the effects slightly but come January next year, itll hit them like a tonne of bricks.  Perhaps a few mainly low selling contributors with smaller portfolios have already left or are currently pulling their ports but the rest of the independents are doing the smart thing and hanging off till next year.  There is no point them leaving in a hurry when the change doesnt happen till later.  Id say most of them are hanging out for stockfresh to take off, and it will.  I seriously doubt any self-respecting non-exclusives will stay for 15%.  20% is already degrading, 15% is just criminal.  So independents will leave next year, no new contributors will sign up after this and itll be too risky for anyone to go exclusive.  Buyers have already had word that istock isnt as spectacular as it says it is and they can find quality images for much less at other agencies where the contributor is paid a fair amount.  Its inevitable... higher prices, lower commissions, and a smaller database to top it off, buyers will be forced to leave.  Exclusives will then be left there with their big dilemma... but Ive invested too much time to leave and start from scratch elsewhere versus but Im losing money staying here.  Its going to be tough for exclusives and theyre going to have to be prepared with one foot already out the door.  They would be naive not prepare themselves.  I seriously feel for them... even you.

I agree. I think the effects will be felt more after the first of the year when a lot of independents as well as exclusives will pull their ports. It may be more independents leaving, but so many contributors have niche portfolio's or that one image that a buyer wants and when it's no longer there, the buyer will move on to other sites. They really won't have much of a choice. I do wonder though how many small contributors even understand what is going on or are even aware of it. I know they sent e-mails but how many actually bother reading them or even understand it. Many may not even know what % they are getting paid now. But I will say this....rather exclusive or independent...everyone has pictures on there and there is always that one picture that is perfect for the buyer.

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Now that is interesting. Thanks for posting.
That part I found most interesting is this "Internet Brands, Inc. (NASDAQ: INET) is a unique and leading Internet media company. The company owns and operates more than 100 websites that are leaders in their vertical markets."...

then this "The vast majority of these sites have very strong community participation."

Wonder how long that will last??

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let me remind you that i didn't bitch about 20% or whatever.  and instead of bitching i kept working at it

I think you really need to show some respect. Some here don't have huge portfolio's. Some do. We are all contributor's and are all effected by this. Some more than others. It's the whole principal of the thing that gets everyone angry. If you were sitting with a small portfolio today and knew that your income wouldn't grow much because of the cuts then you would be upset with that just as you are upset with your end of it now. It's the principal of it all rather it's the big contributors or the small. We all make up the microstock industry.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockphoto Inspection Preferential Lane
« on: September 20, 2010, 16:06 »
No, they don't.
I am an exclusive & it can take several days to get inpected.

But then again, I am not a BD exclusive.

Haven't uploaded to IS since the expletive hit the fan.  But I can tell you it often took 4-6 days to get my exclusive files reviewed.  And there have been multiple complaints on the Exclusive forum about the length of review times, and some of those have come from black diamonds.

I'm not exclusive and have not uploaded to iStock for a quite a while, but could the delay be due to the inspection's of the "Agency Collection"? Or maybe some of the inspector went on strike... ;)

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New Sites - General / Re: New co-op owned RF/RM agency
« on: September 20, 2010, 16:02 »
Would it be possible that those who contributed money in the funding of the coop as well as those who join the funding in the future, receive a set amount according to the amount they contributed. Some contributors could not afford $1000. Some can afford more like $100. The amount of money you put it would determine the amount you would receive in bonuses at the year end. Just like stocks...the more stocks you own the more you make..the less you own the less you make. If any given contributor wants to contribute more money annually then they would receive a higher percentage based on the amount of capital they invest. As for the % they would receive per sale....I think that should be a set percentage straight across the board. I even think that it should be open to other contributors that don't have to pay. Those who don't pay get their regular commission, but wouldn't get bonuses at the year end. The option should be left open annually to contribute more for a higher rate of return or if they have not contributed, have the option to do so. A lot of math needs to be done to project the cost of advertising and marketing because that is where the expense needs to be. Don't know if it would work but that's my thoughts.

The it has nothing to do with a coop. The coop everybody is equal. You could put in more money, but it would not give you any extra money out or any more influence. A coop is a "one man" - "one vote" system.
The coop is selvfunding through the money that comes from the submitter when they buy in, and through witholding a percentage of the commision for for instance 12 months.

So what would it be called??? A private corporation where shares are only sold to contributors?

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New Sites - General / Re: New co-op owned RF/RM agency
« on: September 20, 2010, 15:50 »
Would it be possible that those who contributed money in the funding of the coop as well as those who join the funding in the future, receive a set amount according to the amount they contributed. Some contributors could not afford $1000. Some can afford more like $100. The amount of money you put it would determine the amount you would receive in bonuses at the year end. Just like stocks...the more stocks you own the more you make..the less you own the less you make. If any given contributor wants to contribute more money annually then they would receive a higher percentage based on the amount of capital they invest. As for the % they would receive per sale....I think that should be a set percentage straight across the board. I even think that it should be open to other contributors that don't have to pay. Those who don't pay get their regular commission, but wouldn't get bonuses at the year end. The option should be left open annually to contribute more for a higher rate of return or if they have not contributed, have the option to do so. A lot of math needs to be done to project the cost of advertising and marketing because that is where the expense needs to be. Don't know if it would work but that's my thoughts.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Thinkstock and the Huffington Post
« on: September 20, 2010, 13:50 »
I also see only Mercedes Benz add.

Geez....I must not be as upper class as you guys....all I see is an ad for a Chevy Malibu.....lol :D

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maybe 50? people will give up the crown, thats about 1% and maybe 50? indys will leave. From istock's perspective BFD.


I made a screendump of istockcharts.de the minute I read the first announcement on 7 September to get a measure of how it affects contributors behaviour. For future reference (roughly in 20 days, the first exclusives will effectively loose their crown and become independent)

7 September 2010


For reference purposes, this is what the same page looks like today:
17 September 2010

Draw your own conclusions about all the talk (with a few exceptions, of course)

Too bad I didn't take one more often, though. On the positive side, it least it is a single reference.

ETA: Felt I needed to link the source of this info - thanks for correcting me, Averil ;)


If these stats are a couple of weeks behind, then wouldn't the increase in exclusives be due to the rush to exclusive status at the end of August?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Agency Collection Now Showing up on IStock
« on: September 19, 2010, 10:43 »
Wow....I've been in North Carolina photographing waterfalls since Tuesday and after reading all of this I think I want to go back. This is like reading a mystery novel...what's going to happen next. Read the next chapter in the life of iStock. Just unbelievable!!

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