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iStockPhoto.com / Re: From Getty With Love...
« on: December 24, 2017, 10:05 »
I bet most of the "many that are moving up" are mostly from the absolute bottom tier to the next to bottom tier.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: November 2017 Payment, i really need help?
« on: December 21, 2017, 23:23 »
Your problem is you are dealing with Getty.

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General - Top Sites / Re: DT exclusive - advice wanted
« on: December 21, 2017, 21:37 »
I would say skip 123RF - you will start out at a painfully low percentage and even if your work sells well it will be months before your previous 12 month total gets to a point that you would make a good percentage. I started out with DT but not exclusive. After a few months I joined SS in the middle of December and the second half of the month sales passed all of the sales I had ever had on DT.

Before I would have said send them all to SS since it is so easy to upload there - but it isn't so easy to upload there anymore. If the keywords aren't in the EXIF data it is worth putting it there if you are going to send them anywhere new. You should probably still send them to SS, but it isn't a painless process anymore. #2 I'd say send them to Adobe - or a few hundred to each and see what sells. Alamy could be good, but the upload there is way more of a pain and it can be a long time before sales start, so I'd say wait on them.

DT stills sells for me - about 1/3 to 1/2 of where they were at their best.

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BS is where SS gets to experiment with how to pay us less. The more sales they can move there from SS, the more they get to keep. If they can get sales from other sites it is even better for them.

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Adobe Stock / Re: New Adobe Stock Portal feature!
« on: December 11, 2017, 14:41 »
If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.
I have asked it many times and I never get a satisfying answer :D
On the Fotolia/Adobe they tell about 5 and Mat persists to tell about 7, so how it is really?

@Chickikov, the answer to your question is yes.

Does that solve that? :)

As I'm typing this I'm sitting with the product manager for the contributor portal and he explained it to me like this. The first keyword you list has the most impact on relevance in the search. The 2nd keyword has high relevance but not as much as the first. The third keyword is less relevant than the first two and so on.

The trend continues, however when you get to keyword number 8 the % of relevance is so small it will have very little impact on search results if customers were using that word as a standalone. #7 is the last of which there is any significant relevance.

The reason there is a question about 5 or 7 is the minimum number of required keywords at Fotolia is 7 and the minimum at Adobe Stock is 5. The relevance is the same regardless.

My personal recommendation is to shoot for between 15 and 25 keywords.

-Mat

Thanks for explaining that.

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Microstock News / Re: Disturbing new stock image app
« on: December 08, 2017, 19:57 »
From their website

"Pickit aggregates images from multiple stock providers and our own Pickit Community photographers. Then we put them all in one place. At your fingertips."

Be careful with who your agencies partner with, you might just get 60% of nothing.

more like you get 15-50% of 60% of nothing.

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Adobe Stock / Re: New Adobe Stock Portal feature!
« on: December 08, 2017, 19:19 »
If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: alamy and microstock
« on: December 03, 2017, 21:57 »
Most of the sales are of images that are on both, although I have had sales on the Alamy only images too - a lot less sales from a lot less images.

Also keep in mind that sales on Alamy are not all high $ for you - especially if you get distributor sales. I think I am opted out of novel use though. The few big sales (>100$ for me) are very nice though.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: alamy and microstock
« on: December 03, 2017, 19:13 »
...

The only way to know what will be best for you is to do a test - shoot the same subject under very different conditions (so that RM images are different from those that will be sold RF), upload and see how much you make after three years or so.  Then you will have your answer about which is better.  Good luck!

and by then the markets will be different so you still won't know.

I do upload all my stuff to Alamy (although I didn't upsize back when that would have been necessary). Plus a few RM images that I either didn't want to send to micros or didn't want to bother trying to do as editorial on micros.

Some months Alamy is horrible - like no sales at all horrible, other months it does better than the micros. This year they are my leading agency, which says more about the large fall of SS than the small rise of Alamy.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Earnings in November
« on: December 01, 2017, 19:23 »
suddenly dying a slow death? seems odd.

I did ok - 3rd best month this year, but much closer to the average than the 2 better months. Ss continues to be <50% of where it was. It used to be close to or over 50% of my total. This month it was my 3rd best earning site. I guess I should be glad for diversity, but it is as much from SS dropping as from others rising.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Slow november?
« on: November 30, 2017, 15:58 »
Not great at SS - it will probably be my 3rd best earner this month. It used to easily be my best earner every month with often well over 50% of the total. For the most part this isn't because other sites have passed SS but because SS has dropped. I haven't had a big SOD in over a year (I can't remember one for more than an OD sale).

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Copy space keyword, useful or not?
« on: November 25, 2017, 17:56 »
copy space is probably something that computers can actually "see" in an image fairly well, so the sites could add it as a search option sort of like color palette and vertical vs landscape etc.

I think that sites could clean up the major searches pretty quickly if they wanted to, just have a global modifier on the portfolio and start running the most popular searches. If an image seems spammed check to make sure there isn't a valid reason for that keyword to be in there and if it is true spam push the spammers entire portfolio down in the search.

If they wanted to be nice they could flag the image and spam keyword and let the contributor fix the issue to get back up in the search. If they wanted to be harsh they could just tell the contributor they have been pushed down because of spam and they need to fix it before they can come back.

Sadly I doubt any site is willing to do this, or if they did the implementation would be so horrible that it wouldn't work - like how SS tried to fix title spamming.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Slow november?
« on: November 25, 2017, 11:27 »
November, in my memory, should at least be an average month.

This November is indeed very slow in video sales for me. Any reason behind it?

Thanksgiving in the US, long weekend.


Is it unusual to have Thanksgiving in November?

No.
It has been celebrated as a federal holiday every year since 1863, when, during the American Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln proclaimed a national day of "Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens," to be celebrated on the last Thursday in November.

As long as I can remember it has always been the 4th Thursday in November in the USA.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: SS new submission page
« on: November 25, 2017, 11:24 »
It is ok if you have to change nothing, but not an improvement, and a royal PITA if SS doesn't accept all your keywords or you need to attach model releases or fix a typo or anything like that.

Just like the "improved" contributor page, you can make it work, but if they were going to change it there are so many things they could have done differently if they actually wanted it to be better.

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Alamy.com / Re: First submission has been accepted
« on: November 23, 2017, 10:04 »
I think you would have gone mental trying to keep up with Alamy's keywording suggestions if you had a lot of files. remember the use of [ ] tags? I think I added them for a while but it became clear they weren't actually using them.

It is a long game there, but in my case it has been worth it.


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I am guessing that the people that remain IS exclusive are those who are still doing well or don't care or just don't have the time and effort to go through the work to start fresh on all the other sites. That would tend to skew towards the upper end of things since those that don't care probably don't take part in the poll either.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: DT Refund
« on: November 22, 2017, 12:34 »
I think they do remove the trace of the sale and the refund. I recently had a $2 sub sale (which sadly is unusual these days) and then got a notice that it was refunded, I paged back and the same image had a $1.20 credit sale, so I was at first thinking that the 1.20 sale got refunded for $2, but then realized they had removed the sale reporting. I'd much rather they put a red refund notice on top of it or something. At least it didn't make me go negative.

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Whenever a site says "authentic" what they usually mean is people that look like models in carefully staged situations so that they aren't posed like models usually pose. Natural light means carefully crafted light so it doesn't look like artificial light. I've seen what authentic people look like - that usually isn't what they want.

If you can be a little ahead of the trends through skill or luck with whatever the hot look is though - you can do well.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Slow november?
« on: November 21, 2017, 22:48 »
Search result placement is almost everything in this business.

Hopefully at least some of that comes from sales and hopefully all our files have at least a chance of being seen and getting sales.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IStock October sales in
« on: November 20, 2017, 14:50 »


RPD is not an effective measure of this situation.  My RPD is twice what it was, but I am selling 25% of what I did at peak, subs and ODs have been decimated.

I have never supplied iStock or Depositphotos, but I still suffer because others do.  The agencies do what they do because contributors do not discriminate.

I wish sales had only been decimated. Mine are about 50% down and if yours are 75% down I bet you would prefer decimation too.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Mysterious duplicate sales on Dreamstime
« on: November 18, 2017, 16:48 »
I have noticed that on DT, and I think they are almost always searched for with the same search terms, so I suspect someone is just downloading (subscription) a bunch from that term, then they go back and get some more and get the same one again? I hope it isn't an attempt to avoid extended licenses. Maybe they double tapped the download button but as long as they don't run out of subs what do they care?

I just checked on 2 DL of the same image on the 15th and they were at the same time, 2 minutes later there was a different image DL with the same search terms. I also notice that multiples from a series get downloaded - maybe more often from DT because they tend to clump images from the same artist in search.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New submission editor page
« on: November 14, 2017, 22:48 »
When I was trying to try this out it just kept telling me there was a problem uploading whatever image I sent, so every 10 or 15 or 30 minutes when I remembered I'd try again with the smallest file size image in my batch. After about 5 hours Things started working and I uploaded the batch and painfully processed it. Now I perpetually have that one image waiting to be processed. I delete it, then the wheel spins for a while - 5 minutes? I don't know, and I have that one image again. I just delete it every time I go to check my stats. I've deleted a bunch over the last few days.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New submission editor page
« on: November 12, 2017, 14:10 »
I don't know if I am on the new editor or not, but all I ever get is

"There was an error uploading the following files:"
every file I try to upload.

It does seem sad that they bust stuff that worked ok and don't fix things that have problems.

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 Limited Licensing Program
« on: November 09, 2017, 00:03 »
It is under Account > Preferences
I'm not that special so I assume everyone has this option ...

Interesting. I do not have those options in my preferences.

Neither do I , however I only have one video (and over 3K photos).

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New submission editor page
« on: November 06, 2017, 21:01 »
If it is as an exciting improvement as the front page change was I don't think I'll be very happy with it.

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