Quote from: cthoman on November 13, 2013, 12:22

They can take my royalty percentages, but they can't take my emoticons!

Haven't you seen the movie Major League? They will take EVERYTHING to get you to quit.  Pretty soon we will have to pay a subscription fee to use emoticons.

Don't give me any ideas.

Hi Leaf 

Thanks for the list... I couldn't get that information from the expo people... they told me I had to attend if I wanted to know!     

Cricket

I can't say if that is a complete list however... I am just posting what is public info.  There may be other agencies that attend that didn't want to be on the contact list and aren't speaking.

just got the official word from Lee.  Nobody from iStock is coming  

They closed their office in Berlin so perhaps it was more effort than they wanted to exert.  too bad.  They are a sponsor however - nice to see that.

Canva
Depositphotos
Clashshot (depositphotos)
EyeEm
Envati
Foap
Fotolia
fStock
iBudgetPhoto
ImageDB
ImagineChina
Mint Images
MostPhotos
MotionElements
PantherMedia
PhotoStockMexico
Lori
Pitopia
Pixta
Pond5
ShotShop
Shutterstock
StockFood
Stocksy
TheWorldofPictures
Uberstock
Westend61
YooniqImages

++ more
I'm almost certain there must be a few more because I'm constantly thinking of new ones that I forgot and adding them.

2 days to go...

I am a lawyer, educated in both common law (US) and civil law (continental Europe) jurisdictions, but not a trial lawyer, and matters relating to evidence are very different internationally. So take what I say with a huge lump of salt. BUT:

Civil Law

From my experience, the burden of proof and the parties credibility will decide cases like this. You as a claimant have the burdon of proof initially, but you bring all the evidence you can -- screencaps, correspondence (your take-down letter and possible replies), witnesses that saw the image on the site (give us a link, we all become witnesses then) -- and you make your case. At that point, the burden shifts to the other party to state that it didn't happen the way you say it did. Since you were telling the truth, that would mean lying in court (=prison time). Many people will not outright lie to a judge, and even if they do, they will not be particularly convincing. So if you got your stuff together and did your homework, you have a fair chance of winning. Most likely, the case will settle at some point.

Common Law (US)

You make your case to the judge and back it up with what evidence you have (see above). This, since you are telling the truth, will likely be convincing enough for the judge to order pre-trial discovery. This will force the other side to hand you over their records, including possible backups of the site that contain evidence of what you say. If they claim there are no such records or tamper with them (i.e. lie to the judge), that is contempt of court (=prison time) and if their attorneys are complicit in it, they are likely to lose their license. So if you got your stuff together and did your homework, you have a fair chance of winning. Most likely, the case will settle before discovery if it is ordered (because discovery is expensive and annoying).

Thanks for the nice summary. 

Hello J-F,

Thanks,

If you are planning on coming to the forum more often than you might want to get in touch with the owner of MSG, Tyler (Leaf) and get a badge on your username so that you are verified as Photodeck spokesperson.

He hasn't written to me yet but I thought I'd give him a badge just the same

... and what town are you in Kjetil??  I'm in NOrway as well.

Like last year. I'm quite certain they plan to release videos that you can pay to see of all the sessions and events after the weekend is over.

Here is the third quarter thread for Shutterstock

You have a few more assumptions in there.  One is that people are equally likely to post whether they are up or down.  I think that is false if people are doing well they don't want to post because it can lead to copying.

Interesting you use that argument.  People always say the yearly poll or other earnings threads are inaccurate because only the successful want to report their earnings.  The people aren't having a good time and experiencing poor earnings aren't going to care to report anything.

Quote from: Shelma1 on November 05, 2013, 15:11

How did you afford it? I had to work my way through college and needed a paying job the minute I graduated. There's no way I could take an unpaid internship, which by the way is pretty common in the ad industry (and disgusting, IMO, as summer interns are treated like gofers).

I lived on friends' sofas (I paid them back later) and then for free in a building which was scheduled for demolition. I did every bit of assisting for cash which was offered and also worked at the weekends. The agency paid my travel pass and quite often someone there would feed me. I lived from day to day on very little money without ever really planning ahead - which is exactly how it should be when you are in your early 20s.

Speaking about the free internships.. I didn't ever do it but I wish I had.  When starting out - out of high school I thought that University was very important (and it probably is important.. at least a bit).  I did a degree in photography and ended up with very little that I could actually apply to running a studio or making a living any other way as a photographer.   At the time I also visited a photo studio that offered to take me on as an unpaid assistant but I didn't take it because I felt it was a rip-off.

In retrospect, if I wanted the best education to be a professional working photographer I should have worked for free for 4 years for the photographer and save the uni tuition and I would have been a lot further ahead than 4 years of university.  I learned lots at the uni as well but not much directly related to working as a photographer.