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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: October 15, 2021, 07:39 »
Very slow all month until just a couple of days ago and then picked up a lot, in particular Shutterstock.

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They also have Pay Per Download (PPD) Pro Earnings too which are calculated based on the Subscriber Share model.

https://www.vecteezy.com/deals/how-are-ppd-pro-earnings-calculated

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Calculating the Percentage Earned from a Customer’s Subscriber Share

Customer Z downloads 10 images in 1 month, from 4 different contributors.

    1 image is from Contributor A, earning 10% of Customer Z's Subscriber Share (1 image / 10 total downloads = 10%)
    4 images are from Contributor B, earning 40% of Customer Z's Subscriber Share (4 images / 10 total downloads = 40%)
    2 images are from Contributor C, earning 20% of Customer Z's Subscriber Share (2 images / 10 total downloads = 20%)
    3 images are from Contributor D, earning 30% of Customer Z's Subscriber Share (3 images / 10 total downloads = 10%)

I can see how this works but overall I'm not impressed so will give it a miss.

Thanks all.

 

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I been contacted three times this past week by a rep from Vecteezy telling me they love my work and portfolio (blush) and to apply with them to become a contributor. I don't have any vectors but have photos and videos which I see they sell on the site.

Anyone a contributor on Vecteezy and can share your experience? Thanks.

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This thread is starting to show all that was wrong with the SS forums.
People running other people and organizations down for no purpose other than to
build themselves up.
If the SS refugees are coming here to repeat what they did on SS forums then
I'm outta here.
The SS forums are dead and gone. Leave them that way.
It's a good time to start out on a positive note and go on from there.

Calm down old fella. I was kind of joking and having a bit of fun in my post above playing on the description that we are refugees which is quite funny in itself.

Cheers
Pacesetter
 

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Welcome, new SS forum refugees!

So, I am joining the refugees and hopefully we can stay connected here (and have fun ofcourse !  ;D

Alexandre, Repelsteeltjece, great to see you here guys!


Are we MSG old-timers living through the "Invasion of the Shutterstockers"?  ???

Yes, we apply and plead for refugee status on the grounds of compassion having just escaped a brutal dictatorship who persecuted his own people. Many of us have risked our lives to travel across open rough cyber seas in leaky digital boats to arrive at this beautiful and prosperous land called MSG. If MSG choose to deport us, we have nowhere to go.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this days
« on: October 07, 2021, 06:22 »
August was my BME in over two years of being on the platform. September was slower than average and October has started very slow.

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I also consider if closing the forum is a measure of disarming the collective voice and discontent of contributors to soon thereafter, announce another restructuring of the payments structure and further contributor commission cuts. Keeping true to my newly enlightened favourable perspective of the agency and their management team, this move would be the logical next step in generating profits for the company and its shareholders while reducing the potential for bad publicity. It would be a highly effective and profitable business strategy going forward.

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Hey I just want chime and wonder if those dudes from the shutter forum that claimed to be swimming in the riches and that we should keep the faith are gonna be around here also?

The Shutterstock forum member who did that the most left the forum a couple of years ago and is in fact a regular poster on this forum.  So you get the chance to swim in his success here...

You mean that one contributor who frequently boosted about being a world known successfull photographer and that he knew the secret to sucess (and would share it for money), but on the other hand complained about poor earnings on microstock...?

Nope.  The one who is actually exceptionally talented and often showed his earnings to prove it  :)

Yes, was a big inspiration to me starting out but wouldn't of known it cos I wasn't posting at the time, just lurking. Beautiful content in a photography niche that I'm most interested in.

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As for members of SS forum leaving, I wasn't aware so many were banned, which probably explains much of it. I thought that perhaps many left due to low morale and feeling discouraged by declining earnings and diminished returns on their work and investment to produce content.

But alas, either way, this would suggest that microstock agencies and perhaps the industry more broadly, is the reason for low contributor participation. And how dare I make such a criticism. How dare I!

But thanks to a very Talented colleague on the MCG forum, I have now seen the error of my ways. So with my new enlightened perspective I have looked again at why contributors departed the SS board en masse and can see they left simply due to them no longer needing the forums. All are making so much more commission earnings now than they use to under the old stagnant payments structure and are fully content and satisfied. Thank you Shutterstock!


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I guess my point or question was how many "top tier" contributors would it take to apply pressure to the agencies.

more than would ever agree to participate

Righto. The top-tier contributors have seldom (never?) been willing to sacrifice for the good of the entire collection of contributors. And really, who can blame them???

They probably have independent agreements with the agency with more favorable terms for the top-tier contributor than the mainstream contributor.

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But since it's not, it costs you nothing to call him names  :P

Oh goodness no, I wouldn't calll anyone names. I was just describing said person in a manner that is kind, generous, supportive and inclusive.

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'Murdered' is the appropriate description of the actions of the executive leadership of that place. The top dog is a callous, cunning, narcissistic hypocrit.

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Is this the contest where you have to chase 100 votes just to qualify for the judging round? Looked at that and then deleted the email. Got far better things to do than market a website that hasn't sold any of my content and charges contributors to upload more than 25 images.

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The free image wholesale offer (which I didn't sign up to) must be going really well as my sales have completely stopped.

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So Shutterstock are reaching out to their valued contributors to establish deals before they pull the rug on the whole thing and convert their database of images and videos to a completely free site, knowing many will close their ports but there will remain (without doubt) enough stock to offer many thousands of free images and videos while continuing to licence high-quality stock (from their pool of valued contributors who signed a NDA) for premium prices. Basically, Shutterstock will become a hybrid free / premium microstock agency to lure customers and gain market share.  ::)

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Pond5 / Re: How has Pond5 been in 2021?
« on: July 10, 2021, 09:06 »
Pond5 is dead, 460 clips and not one sale in the last two months.

i wouldn't expect any regular sale with only 460 clips...

Have made regular sales on Shutterstock with 50 fewer clips in the port - totaling over $130 during this period where nothing has sold on Pond5 - and that's with a slow month for video sales in June.

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Pond5 / Re: How has Pond5 been in 2021?
« on: July 09, 2021, 20:44 »
Pond5 is dead, 460 clips and not one sale in the last two months.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: recommended video sites?
« on: July 02, 2021, 21:18 »
i'd stay away from istock...from my 1year test i can say that all the clips that i sold through istock suddendly lost traction(sales) on adobe pond5 and ss...so in my opinion it doesn't worth to sell on istock for 3$ and lose part of those sales where other agencies pay you better

Is there anyone else who backs up this argument?

I'm watching this with my own port having recently uploaded video. The two sales I've had so far would support the argument that istock are flogging these for peanuts but too early to tell if that will continue and whether it affects sales on other sites.

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Remember we are not rich like Justin because we are lazy, good-for-nothing, socialist, communist, Marxist bums.

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'Female pooping' 😂

Any ladies keen on modeling for an exclusive Number 2 shoot?




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Pond5 / Re: Sudden massive pile on of views on P5
« on: June 30, 2021, 02:05 »
Yeah I just had a spike two days ago of views and not one sale, in fact no sales at all this month, the last month without a sale was January. Dead useless crapola.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: 0.25 USD per footage on SS
« on: June 29, 2021, 13:46 »
And you better submit nothing less than top high quality clips or the great Shutterstock will reject your unworthy-of-25-cent submission.

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Do not ask 'What can your agency do for you'.

Rather ask 'What can I do for my agency'.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: boycott shutterstock
« on: June 08, 2021, 06:27 »
Adobe Stock continues to grow in sales; plus Mat comes on here and lets us know what's going on which is a bonus.

Seems like sales on Adobe decreases since their new announcement and region plan, if we can believe the Poll Results on the right and see the graphs.



Adobe Stock has never been so slow as in the last few or more weeks. I'm not a large seller on the site averaging $40 a month over a recent 12 month period - until last month. I've only had 2 downloads so far this month. I'm glad I never listened to the loud mouths telling us on SS forums to abandon SS for Adobe Stock. 

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My own Brutally Boring results for May 2021. Who remembers the days when there was a race to publish the first earnings report each month in this forum and comments would go on for several pages. What a truly boring industry this has become...

More details (if you can work up the enthusiasm) on my blog

Steve

I note the same lack of activity on YouTube monthly earnings updates. Even just a year ago there were more channels reporting their earnings and generating interest and discussion. The same could be said of other contributor forums. Contributors have likely become dispirited, discouraged and demotivated with the ever dwindling decline in earnings despite even continuing to produce content in many cases. This is where I'm at. I actually continue to upload stills and videos and actually had an okay month in May for my standard, but the decline in sales and earnings generally has definitely taken the wind out of the sails for me.

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