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Messages - Sean Locke Photography
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« on: January 27, 2009, 09:20 »
Yuri does sell on Alamy. (unless everything has been pulled from both accounts in the last month)
I meant he's said he has no sales there.
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« on: January 27, 2009, 08:39 »
When talking about prices, also bear in mind that we are talking about visual art, and the standards are subjective.
Remember, we're talking about the exact same image being sold here, not different images that people are judging at different prices. Perhaps this tells us why Yuri says he doesn't sell any on Alamy. Buyers are using his images for things that don't require a wide license. Likely, ads and web use.
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« on: January 27, 2009, 07:51 »
You still most likely get LESS money from a micro EL sale than from a regular sale at Alamy.
And what percentage of sold licences are EL? Under 1%?
Irrelevant. We're talking about the buyer, not the terms the seller agreed to. I would assume the percentage of licenses sold are the percentage that actually need it. So, if you buy the exact same image on Alamy, and don't need what the license offers, you're overpaying for services you don't need.
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« on: January 27, 2009, 07:28 »
Ok, let's take a look at the Alamy usage guidelines for RF: Alamy grants to you a non-exclusive and non-assignable right to Reproduce the Image(s) on a worldwide and perpetual basis solely as part of the following (or as otherwise agreed in writing by Alamy):
1. advertising and promotional materials (including packaging);
2. online or other electronic distribution systems (including web page design, but subject to clause 3. up to a maximum resolution of 72 dpi;
3. broadcasts or theatrical exhibition;
4. any products (including for-sale products) or publications (electronic or print), subject to clause 3.8; and/or
5. materials for personal, non-commercial use and test or sample use, including comps and layouts. Please note, not all of Alamys Images have Releases. It is your responsibility to check that all necessary Releases have been secured (see clause 8.3 below).
The Image(s) may be shared by creating an image library, network configuration or other similar arrangement so long as no more than ten (10) individuals employed by the same entity have access to the Image(s) This is not a "simultaneous users licence", in other words you may not have more than ten (10) specific people access the Image(s) even if only ten (10) people are accessing the Image(s) at any particular time. For the Image(s) to be used by more than ten (10) individuals you must first contact Alamy to negotiate an extension of the Licence.
Ok, this includes the ability to make products (ie. tshirts and such), to use in unlimited runs, and a multi-seat license. These are things that, at iStock, would cost you an EL, or several. So, ok, if these are services you need, then I can see comparing those options to make a sound judgement on price. If you don't need them, you should buy the regular license at the much cheaper price. So, in the end, these are not licensing the exact same image at the same terms at different price points, but licensing them at nearly equivalent price points.
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« on: January 26, 2009, 22:50 »
There's two different discussions going on here:
1. Selling the exact same image at hugely different price points
2. Selling different images at hugely different price points
Obviously, there is nothing wrong with the latter. If you own content, sell it at the price point you value it at.
But trying to pass off selling exactly the same at wildly differing prices as "buyer value" or something, is just silly, imo. That's not diversification. That's just hoping the buyer can't find your stuff at the best price.
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« on: January 26, 2009, 21:22 »
Prices for the same item at different business is nothing new or disturbing. Case in point Wal Mart sells an item for $ 3.88 and the little store down the street sells the same item for $ 7.50. Buyers must learn to shop as we do everyday.
I don't buy that argument, even though I've heard it a dozen times. There is a difference between a folding chair at Target for $15 and Walmart for $20, and the exact same image for $.20 on SS and $300 on Getty or Alamy. You're preying on the ignorance of the buyer, and that's all. There's no added value from the %1000 percent difference that would make it 1000 times better.
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« on: January 26, 2009, 21:18 »
If you don't ASK you'll miss out on fantastic shots and experiences. I'm not talking microstock although most who've posed would have signed a release. One that I asked actually did. Let me recap a few portrait shots from my web site: http://www.louoates.com/HTML-NEW/contemporary_portraits.html
I think there's a difference between saying - "Hey, you're an interesting guy, mind if I snap your image?" and "Hey, you're an interesting guy, mind if I snap your image, and sell it for up to $30 a shot, possibly making me hundreds of dollars, by the way, you could be on a viagra ad, would your mom mind?"
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« on: January 26, 2009, 16:29 »
... and lowering their expectations of value.
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« on: January 26, 2009, 06:09 »
More important than your increasing chart of freeloaders, would be the sales increase for people who are contributing to your site.
I agree with RT and the others. Wasted time and wasted effort.
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« on: January 25, 2009, 19:35 »
Does anyone ever wonder into a restaurant or business and ask to photograph food, staff, and/or customers? Telling the owner/manager that the photos are beneficial to their website and/or menus?
Beneficial in what sense? Are you offering to trade them for the opportunity? Are you ready to gather model release forms from all these staff and/or customers? What are you planning to do with these? Do you have a contract for the agreement ready?
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« on: January 25, 2009, 19:32 »
No, I wouldn't want people bothering me out in public, so I don't bother them.
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« on: January 25, 2009, 13:51 »
Also, you should change your title.
You're not "earning money from your rejected pictures". You're giving away your rejected pictures for free, and hoping to make money from referrals.
SD: haven't seen the movie, but I get it ...
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« on: January 25, 2009, 13:14 »
Thanks for joining up today to start pimping your site...
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« on: January 25, 2009, 13:11 »
What do you get out of it? Just the google advertising income?
"If you intend to use an image you find here for commercial use, please be aware that no model release was obtained and pictures featuring products or property should be used with care." You have no other legal statements anywhere that I can see.
That's pretty risky. You know who's going to get bit in the butt? You (the site) and the contributor when the lawyers come a callin'. They aren't going to care about that little statement.
Giving away images to build a referral base - ie. consciously trying to get competitors to join up and submit images that compete with yours - does not sound like a smart business move to me. And these submitted images would be competing with others you have.
Remember - free doesn't work. We've already been there.
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« on: January 25, 2009, 07:55 »
I'm having some trouble being able to find places where I could make some good micro stock photos and was looking for suggestions.
... I would like to try and turn this into a full time job but can't imagine how to fill a 40 hour work week of just taking photos, editing, and uploading? Suggestions greatly appreciated!!!
You need to sit down with some magazines and brainstorm by yourself. Many, many people have no problems coming up with plenty of ideas, and have the means or the foresight to hire models or buy equipment at this point. You need to figure out what your expectations are and how to get there, especially if you want this to be a full time job, but you can't see yourself doing it full time. There's a big world out there, and you need to be creative enough to see parts of it uniquely.
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« on: January 24, 2009, 13:35 »
I agree. Real photographers should stay out. No money to be made.
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« on: January 23, 2009, 09:08 »
That's too bad... I mean, good for me... ah, you know.
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« on: January 23, 2009, 06:54 »
I did use your code, if you get a kickback or something...
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« on: January 22, 2009, 21:15 »
well said Elena. you can tell show them all you want, or not, the one with the talent will find it out for themselves eventually anyway. and if you consider them a threat as a newbie, they will be a bigger threat to you once they gain the experience. helping them will have them remember you as a helpful network, so you will have them as a peer rather than a rival. they will remember what you did for them as a newbie.
Just curious how this matters about anything. "Remember what you did for them as a newbie"... I've answered a lot of questions about various things to people's emails, and aside from getting the occasional "thanks", I'm not sure if any of them remember what I passed along, or how it is supposed to affect me now, aside from them competing with me. So, what is their good memory supposed to do for me someday?
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« on: January 22, 2009, 19:37 »
Now it appears I've taken the Mr Nasty mantle away from Sean, sorry Sean.
I thought I was Mr. Grumpy.
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« on: January 22, 2009, 10:45 »
I already had this one removed from istock. Doubt I can do anything about ss.
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« on: January 22, 2009, 06:00 »
I find the orange kind of dreary, like 1970s appliances. The red or blue are much more eyecatching to me.
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« on: January 22, 2009, 05:52 »
The vast majority is just leeching.
I'm glad people are starting to finally see this. This is why I don't do that many 3d renders anymore. Too easy to copy. For instance: My image:  Jerk copier: 
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« on: January 21, 2009, 21:11 »
Uh, that was sarcasm. I think I know what he's pointing out.
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« on: January 21, 2009, 20:22 »
are these the same people that have just shared their money making tips with others?
What are you saying? ! ?
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