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826
« on: March 09, 2017, 06:16 »
Todays Getty is a far cry from yesterdays. Today they set a prime example of how an agency should NOT perform. The way they have run Istock down into the ground is almost criminal.
Even the once so celebrated " house collection " members are fed up and messed around beyond belief.
Just the very name spells troubles.
I don't know, IMHO Getty has always been a predatory company expanding by buying up and shutting down the competition, then cutting payments to photographers as much as they can.
They had one innovation early on which was getting photos digitised back in 90s and that's about where the innovation stopped.
IStock is a far cry from what it was, I would say because Getty bought it and behaved in its typical Getty way.
Correct! in the old film days they bought up Image Bank and Stones at that time the premiere agencies in the world. They made 4x5 inch dupes from all trannies and they were beautiful! then came the digital era and everything was digitiised BUT! they were beaten by Istock and SS launching first micros and it created turmoil in the older agencies. All the old agencies started to laugh and ignoring micro and that was the kiss of death. When they finally realized micro was here to stay well instead of competing trying to create own initiatives they bought sites in pure desperation. The rest is history. They once had it all in the palm of their hand but screwed up. Simple as that.
827
« on: March 09, 2017, 03:12 »
Todays Getty is a far cry from yesterdays. Today they set a prime example of how an agency should NOT perform. The way they have run Istock down into the ground is almost criminal.
Even the once so celebrated " house collection " members are fed up and messed around beyond belief.
Just the very name spells troubles.
828
« on: March 08, 2017, 07:49 »
The same pattern I am seeing at Envito.
Oh well maybe they have all become clever.
829
« on: March 08, 2017, 07:31 »
haha! the shutterstock forum! havent been there for years but popped in a few hours back OMG!!! its like reading the bible of death. There is a thread there highlighting daily earnings and reading that one gets the impression the site is going bust! I mean really haha! its so bad it comical. 
I don't find it funny.
No of copurse not. Its pathetic but it was more like tounge in cheek if you know what I mean. However and this is strange its never occurred to me. Notice how many people complain about their portfolio "vanishing" for hours on end? well thats exactly what I am experiencing. I am seeing a complete dead-time European time between 13.00 to 21.00 hours and this is right on the dot! for over two weeks exactly the same pattern. I really haven't got a clue so what going on? 
830
« on: March 08, 2017, 06:40 »
haha! the shutterstock forum! havent been there for years but popped in a few hours back OMG!!! its like reading the bible of death. There is a thread there highlighting daily earnings and reading that one gets the impression the site is going bust! I mean really haha! its so bad it comical.
831
« on: March 07, 2017, 14:25 »
Yes its like a hit and miss getting in there. Anyway where does one find the daily running, the daily stats?? anybody?
832
« on: March 07, 2017, 13:25 »
Number 2 for me.
I have quit micro this year and entering the new world of Macro (RM). I have no idea how it will go. I'm scared but why would I keep wasting my time with decreasing returns? I'm working on my Arcangel portfolio but trying to choose one other macro agency for my lifestyle photos.
Just to put your nerves at ease. I dont know what agencies you have joined but at the moment I experience a big upswing in macro. I can of course only speak for myself and some friends and we have been feeding the macro model now for around 12 years. It might be that the more serious buyers are fed up looking for something among 120 million pictures I dont know. Macros are more forgiving in terms of sort order changes they do it in a smoother way not hurting too many portfolios not like the micros totally slaughtering thousands of ports. Wishing you luck anyway.
833
« on: March 07, 2017, 12:28 »
Who cares about overall sales! I couldnt give a monkeys worth if overall sales are up by 1000% turning Oringer into the leagues of Buffet and Gates. Good riddance!.....I only care about my stats my overall take and thats down by 40%. By the sound of it I'm not alone in nosediving.
Now everyone knows and its no big secret that Russia, Ukariane Poland etc these sort of poorer countries are being nursed. Fine by me they produce millions of files every week and of course that makes any agency very happy indeed so maybe their next elaborate head-office will be somewhere in the Red Square Moscow. Well who knows? anything is possible.
834
« on: March 07, 2017, 10:19 »
"So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " if you had said "So are you in denial that MY SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " fair enough but there is no evidence that SS sales have fallen. Thats the point
They have nosedived!! and badly so! I dont know about your sales? considering you are quite busy in this thread I presume you are a full-time stock-photographer and yes then you would feel a reduction in sales even more may it be SS or any of the other agencies.
So where is the concrete evidence that Total SS sales have nosedived? https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/shares-shutterstock-dive-earnings-sales-154600446.html
I am not interested at all in the total sales volume. I sold my shares beginning of last year. I am interested in my sales and I dont need any concrete evidence. All I have to do is look at my daily sales stats.
835
« on: March 07, 2017, 06:49 »
No it doesnt. If it did I would without doubt be earning a fortune and I am not.
836
« on: March 07, 2017, 05:30 »
"So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " if you had said "So are you in denial that MY SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " fair enough but there is no evidence that SS sales have fallen. Thats the point
They have nosedived!! and badly so! I dont know about your sales? considering you are quite busy in this thread I presume you are a full-time stock-photographer and yes then you would feel a reduction in sales even more may it be SS or any of the other agencies.
837
« on: March 07, 2017, 03:09 »
There is little doubt that anybody but a full-timer somebody that depends on stock-photography will ever see nor feel any difference in the ups and downs. When you start paying the bills from stock alone thats when you start questioning things.
As a full time photographer you are forced to keep a much closer track on whats going on visiting other forums reading articles and so on. You sort of learn to spot conspiracy theories from the real thing.
So you believe SS are lying to the authorities? They would be in prison for fraud. I don't dispute your sales may be falling the fact is SS aren't.
Well I was actually only referring to daily takings earnings and sort order changes. Havent got a clue of what you are talking about?? I must have missed something?
838
« on: March 07, 2017, 02:02 »
There is little doubt that anybody but a full-timer somebody that depends on stock-photography will ever see nor feel any difference in the ups and downs. When you start paying the bills from stock alone thats when you start questioning things.
As a full time photographer you are forced to keep a much closer track on whats going on visiting other forums reading articles and so on. You sort of learn to spot conspiracy theories from the real thing.
839
« on: March 05, 2017, 11:57 »
i experience SOD sales from 38 cent to 120 dollar, still every month. last month 3 x 60 dollar, and several in the 20-30 range, january 120 dollr + 2 x 90 and several in the 20-30 range
but now i see clip sales of 4 dollar
I experienced almost twice as much when the going was good and even single sales at a couple hundred dollars but as from the beginning of Jan this is down by at least 40% almost over night. Thats what I cant explain . On the day at almost the identical time things just changed.
840
« on: March 03, 2017, 02:35 »
I asked a friend living on the other side of the world to do a few searches and it differs completely from the same searching I did and sometimes several pages. No I recon its just another feeble experiment resulting in nothing.
841
« on: March 03, 2017, 02:31 »
Yes there is^ we might be lucky I know people there with thousands of files and some of them are down 50-60% now thats a lot and especially if you depend on stock photography.
842
« on: March 02, 2017, 12:20 »
Dont know what happened but the search right now is awful it return plenty identical sister images in the ten categories I tried out. If I was a buyer I would move on for sure.
843
« on: March 02, 2017, 03:06 »
This is what happens when inertia and poor management really get in to a company
I'm not so sure its inertia so much as going down the wrong path with all that techo gobbledygook about platforms, workflow blah blah rather than worrying about how to deliver great pictures to their customers as easily as possible. If it weren't for the competition being worse they'd be in bigger trouble...don;t forget they are still growing.
I actually think it is the opposite. Rather than innovating and finding new ways to serve the market they have concentrated on just adding new images so they can brag about the size of growth. Or maybe they have done both but the flood of image is drowning out any improvements.
Yes well this time it looks as if they have been bragging once to much. Stocks well down, takings down and a lousy 57% in the right column. Seems it all goes the Istock way. Unfortunately.
844
« on: March 01, 2017, 13:43 »
This is the SS problem!and as said above they have been infomed a million times. I am sure many buyers are dodging SS right now its just too many files. Who wants to sit there wading through all that.
845
« on: February 28, 2017, 03:08 »
I sold mine while the going was good. Never trusted it anyway and these guys are no analysts. We are photographers and creatives and all one has to do is look at most peoples earnings lately and its easy to see something isnt right.
They might want to check in down the Bronx instead. Dump their exclusive offices for starters.
Peoples earnings is easily explained by supply growth. The stock is massively overpriced still in my view. If any of their competitors really get their act together they would be in trouble but for all its problems SS is still way ahead of the rest.
True but I can smell internal problems and many times that have sunk the biggest of corporations. its dodgy.
846
« on: February 28, 2017, 02:25 »
I sold mine while the going was good. Never trusted it anyway and these guys are no analysts. We are photographers and creatives and all one has to do is look at most peoples earnings lately and its easy to see something isnt right.
They might want to check in down the Bronx instead. Dump their exclusive offices for starters.
847
« on: February 27, 2017, 04:09 »
If that were the case why not other countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, India, China, Peru, Chile and so on.
To have so many stuffed in to a single small country is beyond odd.
"Single small country"... Maybe read up on your geography? Thailand has 67+ million people (2013). That's more than the UK, France, Italy, Spain etc.
Thailand isn't dirt poor and there are enough people who own DSLRs compared to the average wage. Culture also comes to play. It may have just the right balance between being developed and cheap living.
Another important thing to consider is that Thailand (Chiang Mai more specifically) is the digital nomad center of the world, meaning people come from all over the world to live there and work online. I wouldn't be surprised if a big percentage of them do stock photography to some extent.
True! but the overwhelming majority are in countries like Russia, ukraine Rumania and Poland.
848
« on: February 26, 2017, 04:39 »
Actually the problem is not small time photographers producing a few pics from their holidays, who no doubt your images are far superior to but the "serious" producers producing thousands of images with almost indiscernible differences from whats already there.
This is very true! but there are still tons of just " rubbish" and sister-images coming in and just there for the sake of quantity.
849
« on: February 26, 2017, 02:11 »
Yet its quite amazing since I read somewhere that around 90% have less then 1000 files in the portfolio. So whos got them all?
Africa Studio over 1million images
http://www.microstock.top/indeximg.phtml?sort=portfolio
ukraine russia and thailand account for more than 50 pages...near 40 % and probably much more than 50 millions file...with ukraine with a lot of people producing cheap content in thousand.
as i already told this is the biggest problem.
True! and this has been going on for some time now. Its incredible really but in these countries it dont take many dollars a day to live the good life so SS will nurse them well and in return they will upload millions of files. Very hard if not impossible for us to compete since our living and expenses are far higher.
850
« on: February 25, 2017, 17:25 »
Yet its quite amazing since I read somewhere that around 90% have less then 1000 files in the portfolio. So whos got them all?
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