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« on: June 09, 2025, 02:14 »
Unfortunately that means they have not been accepted for commercial use, but for data licensing only.
Shutterstock just sneakyly removed the notice that would tell you that they have been accepted for the data catalogue only from your "recently reviewed" tab and now the only way to know whether they ended up in your normal catalogue or the data cataloge is by seeing whether they show up in your portfolio or not.
I know this from Shutterstock support, though they told me the message not showing up was an "error". But seeing as this hasn't been fixed in over 2 weeks now, while this is something so minor that it should take seconds to "fix", I am not buying it and think it's intentional.
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« on: May 29, 2025, 01:34 »
They don't use it, it's not accessible, the files are still stored, in case we change our mind. Because of that, I left Data licensing active and anything that gets reviewed and put into that, I delete immediately. Tricky how they did that, keeping a catalog, in case we change our mind, We can't delete or see the content unless we opt in.
Yes, and the reason you cannot delete or see the content is because Shutterstock WANTS you to have to opt in to see and delete the content. A fraction of a second is literally all an AI needs to grab your image and use it for training. Once you delete it, it is already too late and the damage is done. It might not be used for future customers, but it will 100% be used to train Shutterstocks own AI, even if it was just in the data licensing catalogue for a second. If it wasn't so, Shutterstock would let us see and delete content from there even if we were not opted in. It was a deliberate choice to make it that way. Everyone who does not want their content to be used for data licensing, but opted in just to delete the content, is playing right into Shutterstock's hands.
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« on: May 24, 2025, 02:10 »
What upsets me about the limit is not only that we do not know it, but that a factor that plays into it is the rejection rate. This was never a problem for me in the past, my acceptance rate on Adobe was - apart from editorial content where I could never figure out what they accept - 99%.
But now it's over 50% because every second image gets rejected for being "too similar" - and since the similar rule does not apply to our OWN portfolio, but all of the database, I have zero control over it. Just not submitting images that are similar to the ones in my port isn't helping. I cannot check every image I want to submit with 17 million images in their database. So I feel like that's very unfair, because it is nothing that I have control over or nothing that has anything to do with the quality of my content.
The same goes for the free Adobe plan by the way - I factor for qualifying for it is also your rejection rate.
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« on: April 21, 2025, 05:13 »
I remember a time when the first photorealistic Gen AI images were out and a lot of people were disheartened, because they understood that at some point AI would completely replace them and hardly any customers would go through the effort of searching a microstock database and paying for an image when they could just generate the image they needed themselves.
And then there were the people who insisted "No! Customers will be too lazy to create exactly the image they want with AI (but somehow, according to them, not too lazy to browse through hundrets of pages on microstock sites to find "exactly" the image they want, even at the risk that "exactly" the image they want does not even exist) and still buy microstock images! Ai is just a tool that helps us, it will not replace us or take away from our income in any way! Yada yada yada!".
And then, 2-3 years later, people are suddenly wondering "Why are customers downloading less? What is happening? I don't understand this at all".
Yes. I wonder, why are customers downloading less images form microstock sites? Big mystery.
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« on: April 19, 2025, 02:08 »
I just had another photo removed (happens daily now), that had been apporved over a year ago and the rejection reason is:
"Thank you for submitting your image. Unfortunately, we were unable to process your file. Contact us for more information."
This is absurd.
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« on: April 17, 2025, 02:33 »
I have no hopes left for iStock for me. Used to be one of my best agencies, often better than SS and Adobe until the beginning of 2024- Since then it's pretty much just peanunts.
I am at 1900$ in Mar '23 vs 180$ Mar '25 now. Not even a 10th of my former earnings and not enough to make a living from Microstock anymore.
The change is so drastic and it seems to only happen to me, while everyone else keeps reporting steady earnings. I don't get it. At the same time iStock keeps begging me to go exclusive with them - 3 Mails just this month alone. As If I would go exclusive with an agecy that hardly earns me any money.
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« on: April 14, 2025, 00:59 »
So in total I got removed about 300 pictures It look like thet stopped removing at this moment, but for how long?
They didn't stop. I just got a mail about more image being removed from my port this morning. If Adobe continues like this, soon I'll have a negative port.... Btw, I am 100% convinced the images that are being removed are selected by some wonky AI and not by human. There are so many that make absolutely no sense.
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« on: April 07, 2025, 06:03 »
t. For all I know, it could be, too many images like that, and the similar is like the "Quality Issues" which is just a generic rejection.
If that's the case, then the rejection reason should reflect this. For me the rejection reason literally says "we found that your image resembles other images you have already uploaded."
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« on: April 06, 2025, 04:21 »
You cannot "replace" them, but you can delete the old one and then re-submit the new one.
But be aware that there is still a risk that the new one might be rejected for being "too similar" and you do not even know which image Adobe thinks it's too similar to.
I went from a 99% acceptance rate for years to a 90% rejection rate. Almost everythin gets rejected now including images where I absolutely do not have any even slightly similar images in my portfolio. It's like "oh, you already have ONE photo of a dog in your portfolio? Now you are not allowed to ever have a photo of a dog in your portfolio ever again, because that's too similar."
I am not denying that I have few similar looking images from the same shoot in my portfolio. I am not going to spend money on props, set up my lamps, backgrounds, etc. arrange an image and then just take exactly ONE single image. That's not worth the effort and money. Just like when you book a model you would not do so if you were told that you are only allowed to submit ONE Image with that model. That's just not economic. Of course you will try to get the most out of it and yes, that might lead to a few similar looking images - though from my experienve there are customers who are looking for exactly that.
But for me Adobe isn't just rejecting images where I already have "similar looking" images in my port. They are literally rejecting everything where I already have a similar topic in my port, even if the photo itself looks completely different.
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« on: April 06, 2025, 02:04 »
Interesting.
Anyone here have any experience with sales from Zoonar?
I have been with them for a few years. At the beginning it was a nice extra income. Not anything close to the big agencies, but I still made a 3-digit figure each month. But there has been a significant drop in income over the past months and now they are my worst selling agency with less than 5 earnings last month. Not even worth the effort to submit images for me, even with metadada already embeded in my images. But I also must note that I don't have any direct sales with them, always just through their partner agencies and that I do not distribute my images through most of their partner sites, because I already sell through most of their partner sites directly myself. From my experience they are more an image distribution site than a typical microstock site selling images themselves.
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« on: March 25, 2025, 02:06 »
decided to revive this oldie not because i want to complain again but because i made a small discovery based on a suspicion. after this original thread and with mat's help the ducks i was waiting 5 months to be reviewed were reviewed and approved (probably, i didn't even care anymore but they are no longer in "in review"). at almost exactly the same time i also uploaded some images of a bridge. these images are currently waiting to be reviewed for 10 months. they were uploaded, tagged and submitted 10 months ago. i have about 100 files that are stuck on 3+ months along with them. they are not amazing images but a smaller, less famous bridge that isn't well covered in the agencies. images like this don't sell a lot but do get a few sales here and there. in fact these images have sold on other agencies already in the last 10 months since no agency lets images sit that long without review and the other agencies accepted them no problem. about 3 or 4 months ago i uploaded the same images again with the same metadata. they are also stuck. a few weeks ago i uploaded them again, a 3rd time but wrote the minimum number of words in the metadata fields. they have been reviewed and approved. my suspicion was metadata caused some of these files to get flagged and put in the "we'll get to it in 10 years" pile. in this particular case i used specific name places (like the name of the county, etc) that this bridge is located in. if you have images stuck forever try re uploading with minimal metadata and fill it all in once they get reviewed. as for the original images... it seems i will soon find out what comes after "1 year ago."
Thanks fr the tip. I will try that, becaus ei have image ssitting in review for 7months+ and resubmitting just has them sit in review again. I will try to use less keywords.
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« on: March 09, 2025, 06:28 »
Both of these images show artwork by a specific artist and should have been accepted as editorial content only.
Editorial content rejections have always been completely random on Adobe. I had so many editorial content rejected where I could not see anything wrong with their rules and I also had photos of one subject accepted and other photos of the same subject rejected.
I think not even reviewers understand Adobe's editorial content rules.
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« on: January 17, 2025, 02:18 »
I have 7000+ downloads but only uploaded 119 videos, do I still qualify?
Unfortunately no. You need to have uploaded a minimum of 150 new assets, so 119 is not enough. And while one video download counts as 3 downloads, there is no such equation for uploads.
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« on: January 16, 2025, 03:52 »
I think Adobe only wants to give out a fixed number of free licenses each year and that's why they do not tell us the requirements in advance.
Adobe softwear is still their main business, not stock images, they still want to sell licenses and earn money with it.
So let's say they want to give out 200.000 free licenses (I have absolutely no idea if that number is acurate, maybe it's just 10.000, maybe it's a million, I am just making up a random number), but if they determine the requirements from the start, like 'upload 30 new assets and have 5000 downloads" and suddenly, at the end of the year, it turnes out that 5 million people met the requirements, they will have to give out 5 million free licenses.
So they can only look at the numbers at the end of the year, see where the minimum lies so that they would only need to give out 200.000 free licenses and set the requirements there.
Of course that sucks for contributors who don't submit much, but have quality content that is in demand. From a "quality over quantity" point of view it doesn't even seem logical to tweak the upload requirement that much instead of the download requirement.
But the direction Adobe is going into with the mass of AI images is clearly "quantity over quality".
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« on: December 05, 2024, 12:31 »
How can you tell the images are Gen AI other than their unlikely perfection? Im genuinely interested.
How can you not tell? A deer with 5 legs and butt-anlters doesn't make you suspicious?  or these hands' very strange anatomy?  See nothing wrong with this bird's legs?  Or this bird's claws?  Shutterstuck is really FULL of these images. It's like they aren't even trying.
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« on: November 23, 2024, 06:52 »
 I really don't get how these get accepted. I have given up submitting pngs to Adobe, because they got rejected so often, even though I could not see anything wrong with them. I even clean them up precisely with a graphic tablet. And then I see something like this gets accepted?
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« on: November 20, 2024, 12:18 »
The new contributors are faced not only with an upload limit of 50 but have also wait for months.
The old experienced ones have currently to wait just for some days.
Also can't confirm this. I have been an Adobe contribut for many years. My oldest image still waiting to be review was submitted 3 months ago.
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« on: November 20, 2024, 06:36 »
I cannot confirm this theory at all, though, of course, what I consider an image with high or low commercial value might differ from your opinion.
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« on: November 12, 2024, 01:10 »
This just means your image or video was rejected. All rejected images go to the "Data licensing" cataloge, regardless of whether you opted in or out. If you opted out it just means your content won't be used for data licensing (or so Shutterstock claims), but it's still ends up in the cataloge, apparently only visible to you.
It also means that you cannot "fix" mistakes the content was rejected for and resubmit, because you will be told it was already approved. In my opinion that's done on purpose, because Shutterstock is trying to push you to accept data licensing as that'S the only future for Microstock companies.
You can get around this sort-of by temporarily opting IN to licensing. This then allows you to delete the data catalogue. Then you opt straight back out. Its flushing the toilet if you like.
I would strongly advice against this, because the 60 seconds when you are opted in is all Shutterstock needs to feed all of your images to their own AI. It negates the whole purpose of opting out. It's pobably even the sneaky reason why Shutterstock does not let you delete images without opting in in the first place.
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« on: November 10, 2024, 03:07 »
This just means your image or video was rejected. All rejected images go to the "Data licensing" cataloge, regardless of whether you opted in or out. If you opted out it just means your content won't be used for data licensing (or so Shutterstock claims), but it's still ends up in the cataloge, apparently only visible to you.
It also means that you cannot "fix" mistakes the content was rejected for and resubmit, because you will be told it was already approved. In my opinion that's done on purpose, because Shutterstock is trying to push you to accept data licensing as that'S the only future for Microstock companies.
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« on: October 23, 2024, 12:11 »
For me the mail starts with "Hi Shutterstock Artist" and ends with "Thank you,The Bigstock team".  The "request payment" option method isn't even an option on Shutterstock, but it's available on Bigstock, so that makes more sense. I think they want everyone to collect their earnings so they can finally shut the page down for good. They haven't even been accepting new submissions for a long while now, so we all knew that's where they were heading.
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« on: October 19, 2024, 00:39 »
Global inflation is being driven by the US Democrats
GLOBAL inflation? You are giving way too much credits to the USA. They are like 4.3% of the world population, half of that only if you want to blame the democarts.
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« on: September 20, 2024, 00:30 »
Honestly, Adobe Stock has been pretty fair and good for contributors. I don't know where your anger is coming from. I'm happy with Adobe Stock and Pond5.
Did you ever have a problem where you actually needed to contact the non existing support at Adobe?
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« on: September 17, 2024, 23:53 »
I opted out when that was available after they used all our assets to train at first, and then they opted me back in and I opted out again, but I just got a tiny payment and I can't seem to find the opt out anymore. Consider me unimpressed with Adobe.
I am pretty sure Adobe was the one agency that never offered any opt-out option in the first place?
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« on: September 06, 2024, 02:22 »
You already got your big payment last year. Adobe will not pay you for using the same images to train the same AI application twice. The training has already happened. I don't understand how some people still believe having their images used for AI training would be any sustainable means of income. It's a one-time thing.
You will probably get a payment for new images you have added since then, but unless you are a new contributor or somehow managed to add as many new images last year as in all your previous years with microstock combined, the amount you will recive will be much smaller.
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