Quote from: Madede on September 09, 2024, 08:42

Quote from: synthetick on September 09, 2024, 05:06

Quote from: Madede on September 08, 2024, 03:48

Deletion of uploaded files is treated same as file rejection and effects on your stats and sales.

If that is the case with deleting stuck files, then the effect would be negated when re-uploading them back into the queue?

Of course NOT.
if you upload 1000 images your upload counter will state that you have 1000 uploads.
And if you delete 100 and  then upload those 100 again, your counter will state that you have 1100 uploads and 100 deleted / rejected images.
It is a basic math.

I don't necessarily want to say that your statement is not true. But I find it somehow illogical.
Do you have a link where I can read your information?
I'm not even sure whether rejected images affect the ranking. My personal experience in this regard is different.

I'm having difficulty finding my acceptance ratio. Is that listed for my account? If the idea that uploads vs accepted, totally ignored uploads that were deleted, maybe?

As far as what Adobe has told us in the two webinars and other places, images are ranked by their activity during the images first 30 days. No where does anything tell us that accounts or artists are ranked.

Position is flexible and always changing, relative to everyone else's position. It's not rank or fixed. It's a floating position. If I get a sudden burst of DLs, I'll move up. If I have a dead period, I'll go down, as long as others had more DLs during the same week. There's nothing to say that uploads and accepted or total numbers have anything to do with position.

agree,more words are not more sales.

I hardly reach 49 words,but rather I do in-depth research on the topicI'm dealing with and try to find the most suitable words,usually it takes me about 2-3 hours to index 20 contents,I don't like automating these processes,
sometimes maybe I can even index 20 contents in 1 hour,of course it depends on what I'm doing.

this is certainly in my opinion one of the advantages of working with a single agency,have more time to do this and many other things.

Another good point you are making. I'm guilty and lazy, so I go to SS, upload the file, copy the keywords I added first and the suggestions. Which means, I'm just a parrot using the same keywords and the words I typed into the search and the same words as everyone else, who probably copied from the same SS search. If I'm being realistic, how would I expect to stand out, when all I have is more of the same?

Then those words are in the metadata and the same words go to anyplace else.

But I still won't say that more words that people are unlikely to use, add anything. The Adobe version of that is the best answer. What words would you use to describe this image? and then, if you were searching for this image, what words would you use to find it? That simple.

We're also in agreement, that more isn't better, just because there are more. Quality keywords that are related and suitable, is the best way.

One more time, to explain myself, Cobalt is correct, new images do get a boost, pretty much everywhere. And there are buyers who search for recent. I also agree that most popular is not a good search choice, for a buyer who thinks, or wants the best image for their needs. Popular isn't relevant.

I can't describe images that aren't new as being invisible, or that if you don't upload new, week after week, that you are invisible. Just possible, a little less likely for your older images to be seen, by someone searching for newest. If someone uses a good search to search for the best matching images, that's the most important connection for a buyer or seller. The image rank is established in the first 30 days.

The new boost, making for page one or two, only lasts until a newer number of images, have been uploaded, to move ours to page three or lower. For a popular subject, that's days, for a niche, that could be months.

Position or "rank" as some call it, is meaningless, as only we can see that and Adobe ranks images, not artists, from what we have been told. Recent Best Sellers, shouldn't help or harm anyone. Both of these are meaningless, except for bragging rights.

"Recent top sellers are determined each week using the following process:

    For each asset type we generate a list of 200 contributors who made the most sales in the previous week, only considering their uploads from the past six months. Then, we order the list based on each contributor�s uploads/sales ratio, and the top 10 contributors on this list are featured as �Recent top sellers�.

    Contributors are eligible to be featured at most once every five weeks. This selection process is subject to change in the future."

Most sales in the last week, of the images from the past 182 days, upload to sale ratio. You won't see me there, and I won't either, because I don't look.

My sales are up on Adobe, because of the kind of images and what I add. I don't know if time matters or adding new images, or what I add. I only see that income is up, for mostly the same images with under 100 new each year.

Just to hopefully debunk some of the theories I see here  : I never offered free images and since 2020 I upload around 20 files per year and I'm still regularly below rank 4000 with less than 1k files.

Proof of the theory that if someone produces good content that buyers need, (and I mean you) they will get more sales, than people who just upload, because they think new is giving them some extra advantage, beyond the buyers who search for fresh content. The number of images may offer some advantage, but that's not an answer, it's just a minor plus.

I do agree that fresh content might get more views, just because it's new, but after that, the images must also be useful and what the buyer needs.

My position (because there is NO RANK), is fairly steady. I do offer free images, I do upload new, but I'd say, I don't add anything outstanding or in demand for current demands. No AI either. I do upload unusual subjects and I consider Plop and Shoot the best way to grab new material. Many of my better earning new photos, are just being in the right place and seeing something, and having a good camera.

Now someone needs to add that if you have 49 keywords, you'll get more sales, than people with only 24 keywords? Why? Oh yes, maybe, just maybe, someone might use one of those distant, or archaic terms, to find an image. But that's unlikely, because of logic. What words best describe an image or what someone is looking for? The best and most related words, not obscure words. Yet people keep believing some old theory or better named mythology, that more words = more sales.

Quote from: zeljkok on September 04, 2024, 00:31

Quote from: Madede on September 02, 2024, 23:37

Small jubilee - 50 days of not reviewing. 

I am sitting at 40.  Could I please ask you to report here once it goes over 56 days (8 weeks) if it still hasn't been reviewed?

over 2 months here now .. so that is longer than their "8 weeks"

I'm trying to be champion and the record holder. Now: "Submitted 6 months ago" for my oldest. The rest are only 24 days.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 06, 2024, 12:52

Quote from: alexandersr on September 06, 2024, 12:33

Quote from: Faustvasea on August 16, 2024, 05:24

Hi. I�m thinking to upload my images to wirestock. Is it worth the time ? Also do you tick the box where they will distribute to other agencies as well ? Thanks

But, do you have to pay in order to upload content to Wirestock? Some time ago i tried to upload some images, however i couldn't becuase i have to upgrade!

They have a free offer (which I don't use) to upload to the Marketplace, which is their own kind of online agency. Maybe someone will have a sale or income from that? It looks like a dead end. Subscription as far as I can see.

"  Access to 5M+ unique images and videos
    Download up to 1000 images and videos monthly
    No attribution required for all content
    24/7 Support"
$7.79 a Mo or $93 a year.

Yes, to upload to the agencies you have to pay for the right. $179 a year, you get AI, 200 uploads, free keywording and contests. There's more, but the point is, Marketplace is free and then the images are sold via subscription. . I find nothing attractive in paying to upload to a distribution site, and I don't need AI, especially a pay version when there are still free sites around.

If anyone has any return or has ever got a cent from Marketplace, I hope they will post something here.

Thank you very much!

You're welcome, I hope I got it all right. They have such a mash of programs, and offerings.

I love the part, where I can pay them $179, they will attach vague and non-specific keywords, without knowing the locations or details, and then, I'm also allowed to have them sell my images, on Marketplace, by subscription, at a rate of 1,000 downloads for people who buy the subscription, and I get $

That's why I wonder if anyone has anything detailed on how much Marketplace pays for a download. Can't be much, because it's a Sub. and the fee is so low for 1,000 a month.

I do like the regular program, when it was free, and they read my included metadata, but they are selling the easy upload and distribution, shoot/edit and upload part. I will say, the regular distribution, does work, and the automatic payments are always prompt. I have very similar images that sell from WS and are on the same agency, some by accident, and the WS versions sell, while mine don't. I'm convinced they have better search placement. Plus, everything WS is the highest level on any agency because of rewards for annual sales Etc.

But I'm not paying $179 a year to make $90 a year.  But part of that is also, No SS, IS, AS or AL to speak of.

Quote from: ravens on August 19, 2024, 06:38

Any experience on Folio Images? They're a premium site under Mostphotos. Lots of people and landscapes, RF only, high prices. Applying seems easy but I wonder if it's worth it.

For me mostphotos suck so submitting to a company that belongs to mostphotos is not appealing to me 

"Welcome to Mostphotos, the leading image agency in the Nordics. We have an exceptional collection of royalty-free Nordic images, perfect for your projects. "
Might have something to do with things? 

I thought they went out of business years ago. I must have confused them with someplace else.

lol, I didn't even know they had forums, cool!

taking a quick look though - in a way a bit funny - the questions (at least for the contributor aspect) seem to be repetitive, along the lines of "when will my stuff get reviewed? how come this wasn't accepted?', etc, etc... anyways!

Maybe on a snow day, I'll go read again. I found the experience the same as yours. Same questions, over and over:  https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock-contributors/ct-p/ct-Stock-Contributors?page=1&sort=latest_replies&lang=all&tabid=all

Just checked on Firefox, Chrome and Edge, they all work. Desktop, Windows 10. No way to figure why the others here can't get access. It requires the same account as my Adobe login.

https://community.adobe.com/

Quote from: Dantheman on January 04, 2013, 17:51

Quote from: elvinstar on January 04, 2013, 16:57

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Why would using a card reader be better than connecting directly to the pc? The reader in the pc is exactly the same as an external card reader?

I think they meant connecting the camera to the PC to transfer files.

  ok that makes sense. But i really hardly know anyone who still does this!

I transfer images from the card to the PC & the cloud such as one drive & google drive but when my SD card was full & had to reformat it, it turned out that some of my photos were not backed up that I needed so I was able to DL some for free from my Depositphotos port. I DL'd some photos I have on 500px & even Gurushots by sharing them on pinterest & downloading them that way with no watermarks. although they didn't always save to the original 16MP photo size

Some free tools will recovery your images. Some are free to scan and don't recover until you pay, which is a waste of time. Recova is old and free. I have iTop recovery tools on my desktop. Even after format if you haven't used the card, many time, most of your files will still be there. Full size as original. Sandisk cards used to come with free recovery software. Just buy a card and the code for a year of use, is included.

But do it now and don't use the card. I mean, even a formatted card, will still have many images, unless you did deep level formatting instead of the fast.

Dear Colleagues,

Even though my earnings are nothing to brag about this month I'm happy to share with you a story about how a colleague managed to recover some monies from a stolen account at Adobe Stock. Also some news about PhotoCase shutting down after some 20+ years in business.

https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2024/08/30/august-2024-brutally-honest-earnings-report-copyright-theft-special/

Alex

From your report: "�Agencies should make it easy to report,� Dmitry said. �But instead, they make the process tedious and cumbersome. On Adobe and iStock, it�s difficult to even find the form. Shutterstock makes it hard to find an email address for copyright infringements, and they constantly reject your claims over minor DMCA technicalities.�"

Some day, SS which is hiding behind the protection they have, against charges, because users are responsible, will get hammered. The law that protects them, also says, they need to be proactive in policing and removing.

Someone, some day, will get a class action lawyer who will go after SS on behalf of 1 million contributors, and then some crap will hit the fan! 

As for Adobe, it took one search "file dmca claim adobestock" and the link was right there: Intellectual Property Removal Policy

https://www.adobe.com/legal/dmca.html?msockid=2e522b4b6b636d5e2aa13b116a1d6c2e

I don't see that as difficult or hidden.

Meanwhile, in the US there have been some positive developments for creators - https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/ai-companies-lose-bid-dismiss-parts-visual-artists-copyright-case-2024-08-13/

EU AI Act is in effect from August and we should be getting the first claims soon.

Bid to dismiss, hardly a victory for anyone trying to claim infringement. Now it will go to trial instead of being tossed out.

"In the EU, copyright law restricts training on copyright works for commercial purposes without a licence if rightsholders have simply �opted out�. Under the new EU AI Act, providers of so-called �general purpose� AI models on the EU market will not only have to abide by these rules but must also demonstrate their compliance by providing transparency on their training process, seemingly even if the training was conducted outside the EU. "

Please explain first claims from August EU act. I don't know the details. Or drop me a hint with a link or title?  When a new rule or law is created, the violations are not brought after the fact, only into the future. What the AI companies have used, is history.

Interesting... Perhaps write an article talking about how companies like midjourney are essentially based on MASSIVE copyright theft - and how producers can fight back to get some of the same RECURRING revenue every time their asset is referenced? (One of the big "problems" companies like midjourney had was how to get rid of pesky little things called "watermarks"... and they STILL generate it with watermarks from time to time)...

Payments CAN be made retroactively (contrary to what the 'ai' companies would like you to believe) - it is quite simple (programatically) to retroactively go through the massive data library - attribute any image generation to any dervived 'ai' model - then compensate authors in micropayments. It is also very easy to do that going forward as well.

If there are 10,000 photos of a cheeseburger used to train the model (which reminder are not referenced ever again, because there is already a model) how would the AI company know which images were used? Or are you suggesting that every time someone says, "cheeseburger with catsup, mustard, pickles, onions, lettuce, on a white bread bun." that every image of each of these, by the thousands, cheeseburger, lettuce, bun, catsup, mustard or an onion, would get paid?

REALLY?

Pay for initial use and for a license, sure thing! And at a fair rate would be good, for the expected future use. Tracking every use, is not possible, because in fact, the training is the one use and there are no more.

In your personal opinion, of your own situation.

If you fall into, Hobby like I do now, pick a percentage that applies to your income. If you use Microstock to pay for travel, make an estimate. If you have some other use or way you use the money, like gear and not lifestyle, but I suppose gear is, hobby, lifestyle or entertainment? Make up your best answer, that applies to how you use your Stock Photo Income.

This poll you can change your answer, you don't have to vote to see the answers, and there is no deadline end date. Things can change.

@Pacesetter thank you for asking.

It's annoying getting dozens of spam/scam messages everytime I upload a new Etsy asset.

WTH, where do these lead you? Offsite or to some website that has a Trojan? and yes, you sure are popular.

So slow as to be practically useless.  Oh oh.

I'm not Dial-up or copper wire DSL, 45 seconds to load the thread. 30 seconds for loading preview. Nope I don't think it's fixed.