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Is $2-$3/hr a good rate for you?

but I will be getting this money forever

I like a your profile image ( a dime $.10) because that is what what we get from Shutter all the time lol!  Good luck and may the force be with you.

You'll like this one too?



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Is it documented anywhere what Firefly does with "reference" images a user uploads?

 - Does it save them?
 - Is it any different than what Adobe does with contributors images relative to AI?

No answers, too bad. I'd wonder the same as you do, how they are stored and used, maybe for future training? But I think, unless there's some vetting and monitoring, some human would still need to look at each one and evaluate them.

Nothing in the terms?

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I do high end motion graphics work and make fractal art and after 6 years of my previous Intel Mac I have updated earlier this year to an M2 Studio and it seriously rocks.

As humor, I ran into a guy at a bar, who was "into fractals" and he had just bought the latest 486 so he could make them better and faster. We never stop going faster and better?  8)

Cute ad, I still don't understand what was offensive. I mean the whole idea, without the ad, that an iPad Pro would be the creators tool of choice and replace all the others, is a complete farce, but so what? Politicians and special interest groups, tell us that electric cars are the future and people swallow that?

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https://chng.it/Q4mPz45mrG

" We can't get enough of this deluge of Ai content, there is a need for a limit and I will present this petition to Adobestock if we reach a significant number of signatures. "

I just signed the petition of Antonio Gravantes StockPhoto, who for those who don't know him, is a professional stocker who has managed to close many fake accounts on shutterstock and AS and I think that this initiative that he is now trying is important regarding the massive AI content

Needs a bump to put the petition back on top.



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My point would be, not denying what you have observed, honest or not, or however you want to label your comments about the truth and reality of things.

You can attack a subject, or an activity, and point out something is wrong, without calling out an entire group of people, for what some individuals do.

I am not politically correct or woke, but I do stand up when it comes to generalizations about entire cultures, races, regions or religions, based on a smaller number of that population who are anti-social, criminal or only see the world, from a self-serving perspective.

I did articulate that it did not apply to 'everyone'. However, the statements are based off of actual data, correlation between specific types of people who do that, personal experience in working with/dealing a number of different races & cultures, as well as open discussions with a number of people who openly admit that's precisely the kind of thing they do - and it for the most part actually does apply to the majority. 'Stereotypes' are stereotypes for a reason, because they do tend to be accurate, or wouldn't have become a stereotype. Glad to hear you aren't "woke" though lol. (I admit - 4 years ago when the media started publishing being "awake" and "woke" I thought they were the same thing - thinking someone 'woke up' and was now 'awake', not realizing of course they are in many ways polar opposites).

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But then I suppose that is why some (of course, not all - because some microstockers are very intelligent) - but referrering specifically to some microstockers are on here whining & complaining like children, because they are not international businessmen, but rather hoping they can stick their head in the sand and if they throw a big enough tantrum, someone might do something.

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But I'll agree with that one!  ;D

Sounds good! :)

I honestly think Woke is a stupid term, but since everyone else, knows what it means, I'm forced to use it. I might have said apologists or history revisionists, but fine, one word does it now. There are different views of who's woke and what it means, one more possibly vague modern, overused term? I see it as misguided people, who are over the top, finding fault, wrong and complaining at every opportunity.

I looked up a definition: "alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination: " Well I'm concerned, but I'm not alert and over the top, awake. Candidates use it to galvanize the conservative base around culture war issues. Well I'm not politically aligned with any party. I believe in people thinking for themselves and not being led to the slaughter of party politics or mindless, voluntary, thought herding.

The obvious, which I stated, I'm not politically correct or Woke.  ;)



 ;D

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 14, 2024, 14:47 »
note, though, you can't have them submit to any agency you've already submitted those images to

And you don't always have control over that. If they onboard a new agency and it's one that you are already submitting to via a personal account, you might end up in a situation where they submit images that are already there... and get accepted. Easy to miss such notification from them because their mails tend to end up in a spam folder or you just might be on holiday and miss it.  I have that with Getty (via iStock on my personal account, and via Wirestock). And they sell via both channels. I haven't seen any consequences of that, but I guess theoretically it can happen that one of the accounts get suspended.

Anyhow, that's a situation you have with any distributor. Same with EyeEm in the past.

Yes, there's another negative. I don't know how or what I could do to end the 3 uses by Extra Channels. Maybe that was Evanto or ? They did add everything to IS when that came back online. I'm sure I have duplicates being sold under two accounts. Pond5 wrote me to say I either stole and image or mine was stolen, because two accounts have the same image. Guess what? It was mine from Wirestock.

Hasn't hurt me, but you are right, there is some lack of control. On the other hand, I won't pay to play, so only the oldest images from, upload everything and see what passed, when WS opened, is online. It's  "everything" going back to about 2009.

AS, SS, I upload on my own. Which makes WS prefect for distribution of aging Microstock, where I don't have to have an account and wait 10 years to cash out. IS, AL, DT, I have some from both myself and WS.

There's my biggest attraction. Make $30, anywhere, any combination of agencies, get paid.

Sorry for the thread hijack:  Shutterstock is an embarassment

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The message was simple - the new iPad can take the place of all these things and be your new creative tool.  The execution was horrific because you didnt know where it was going until the final punchline.

100%.  Exactly how I saw it.  Ad itself is horrible, but message is clear.

Re Apple, just like with most other things, there are those that hate them and those that love them.  But quality of their products is superior.  cca 2009 I switched from PC to Mac and never looked back.  MacBook Pro that had wine spilled over between other things is still functional.

But if your Mac dies mysteriously from a know parts malfunction, the Genius at Apple will open is and look at the secret moisture detection tabs and say, "sorry, your device was subjected to water damage, no coverage." This is not uncommon, even when there was no wine or water damage.

I worked on a Mac and loved it, but I have everything PC. I see others who have Macs and they are nice, great display, I heard very wonderful for photo editing.

I also know entire business that had so many problems with their MACs that the switched to PCs and have been happy ever since.

This isn't as easy as, this vs that. Either system is fine, for what someone needs and how they use them. Same for the phones. I have a crappy old SE and it's better than the best Android I ever owned. My iPad just kills the Samsung tablet I use. This is live me, I own both, not I like one better because AppleNazi's are aggravating, or I don't like the business model.

Some Apple products are better, some are overpriced and a bunch of sugar coated fluff.

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Thanks for noticing. I was wondering how many East Indians are Jews?  :o Oh I see, it's those two groups and probably more.

My view is, it's unnecessary to blame and label people for origins or their ethnicity or religion as the cause of problems in the stock industry or our business.

Could we stick to business and AI an skip the personal attacks?

Lol, hey pete. Not sure if you are trolling, just bored - or genuinely curious to the answer to your question. That question I don't know - I 'spose you could take a poll?

If someone gets upset at stating the obvious - it's like saying "hey, that car is GREEN!". And then someone replying "OMFG! yOU ARE an ANTI-GREEN CAR person! OMFG! ANTI-GREEN! ANTI GREEN! ANTI-GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (Which lol - in itself makes no sense - because you simply stated a car was green. One could argue that you are actually PRO green because you made people aware of the lovely greenness of the car).

It is significant understanding how different sets of people conduct business. Like, using a different example - if you went to China to do a business deal, and the first thing you did was to start discussing business, you'd have a very short trip. It's not how Chinese businessmen conduct business. It's relevant to understand what types of individuals/groups/background are responsible for certain things in order to deal with it effectively.

Otherwise - ignoring how a different culture/person/etc conducts business because you'd don't want to be "perceived" as some label (which - actually IS a "business tactic" employed by some groups - making ppl 'fearful' to be 'labelled' a certain way state the obvious) is actually rather foolish.

But then I suppose that is why some (of course, not all - because some microstockers are very intelligent) - but referrering specifically to some microstockers are on here whining & complaining like children, because they are not international businessmen, but rather hoping they can stick their head in the sand and if they throw a big enough tantrum, someone might do something. Thing is -  if one wants to stick their head in the sand and figuratively go 'la la la la la can't hear you la la la la!' - while that is their prerogative - one should be aware that the different people/groups/etc find that incredibly funny and certainly would take advantage of a person who conducts business  "that" way...

My point would be, not denying what you have observed, honest or not, or however you want to label your comments about the truth and reality of things.

You can attack a subject, or an activity, and point out something is wrong, without calling out an entire group of people, for what some individuals do.

I am not politically correct or woke, but I do stand up when it comes to generalizations about entire cultures, races, regions or religions, based on a smaller number of that population who are anti-social, criminal or only see the world, from a self-serving perspective.

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But then I suppose that is why some (of course, not all - because some microstockers are very intelligent) - but referrering specifically to some microstockers are on here whining & complaining like children, because they are not international businessmen, but rather hoping they can stick their head in the sand and if they throw a big enough tantrum, someone might do something.

But I'll agree with that one!  ;D

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Sliced vegetables, all the way, all day, every day!

Thank you for reminder. Let me shoot a few more of sliced vegetables!

To be honest, I think I did a tomato one day, just to do it. One is probably all I have.  ;D I never shot models, so I'm missing any of that. One pet dog photo, no cats. Maybe a few flowers... I'm missing all the classics?

Always glad to be a motivator and set a personal example for underachievers.  ;)

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Envato / Re: Envato acquired by Shutterstock
« on: May 13, 2024, 14:00 »

If you keep predicting the same things maybe one of these years you'll be right. So far you are 100% wrong about SS going out of business. None of those will buy SS as the Micro market is dying. They would want something that has a future.

Stock price has fallen from 125$ only a couple of years ago to 38 now.......and it will keep sinking........it's game over for them........

It was always a $35 stock, IMHO, but all the blue hairs and speculators were taken in by the potential gains. It's the same as Crypto. Investors need to get on the train and convince other people, after that, that the stock is going up and has growth potential. Then the new people, buy and raise the value. Eventually the number of larger fools, dwindles and the price falls, people get out with some profit and the price falls.

Some people will see the price dropping and buy, which brings up the perceived value again, and the little bounce makes things look good. Then it drops, and financial reports show the flaws, and the price drops more. Until the value reaches the real value, instead of the inflated potential value. In an optimistic world, SS pays decent dividends and is a $40 stock.

The ride is over, unless they come up with something new. Just buying to control all aspects of the market, isn't going to make them a hero again.

The last peak was Feb 2023 when it was at $80. All time peak was $125 in 2021.

But, no SSTK isn't going out of business. Yes, the game is over. They have taken all the profits from the contributors and dropped prices and image values, to the floor. I don't think they can go any lower. (but I've been wrong about that about Microstock, in the past)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 13, 2024, 13:41 »
Hmmm,  I guess Uncle Pete is ghosting me or he has no answer to a simple question.  Either way, I think that confirms exactly what I thought about Wirestock.

Pete is busy promoting his crapstock portfolio...

here's what WS says

https://wirestock.io/about-us  what we do

 ;D

Yes and I actually work for a living sometimes, especially in the Summer.

Hmmm,  I guess Uncle Pete is ghosting me or he has no answer to a simple question.  Either way, I think that confirms exactly what I thought about Wirestock. 

First part, I don't work for WS, I don't think their keywording is particularily good. It's visually descriptive, and we all know that without details, that wouldn't be as good as, the artist who knows.

They charge to have an account and take 15%, unless that changed. There's a 200 limit, but I'm pretty sure, with your reputation and history, if you said, I have 5,000 files... they would jump at the opportunity. Maybe for free and maybe, mail a hard drive, we'll do everything else.

I'm going to make my point, as a person and what I was trying to say TO YOU, not about WS or anything else.

If you have a pile of horse crap in one hand, and 5,000 files on a hard drive... which one is more? If you uploaded 5,000 files to WS and got 85% of whatever they make you, for doing nothing else but taking the time to upload them, or you have no account, no files and nothing. Which one is more valuable.

Stop nit picking at side issues and details, and expecting me to know WS business. I was simply saying, if you upload the files, they will get distributed to any of the places you select, and you'll make money. Which is? "more than what you have now which is nothing."  ;D

Now for myself and my motivation? I get $8 if you use the link. And some kind of pennies, if you get some downloads. I hope you make a million dollars, because I'd make...

  1. When you refer a new contributor to Wirestock and they become a premium subscriber, youll instantly earn $8.

  2. Additionally, you will earn ten percent (10%) of the total royalties generated by your referral for a full year. For example, if your referral earns $500 in royalties, you get an extra $50 in your pocket.


Important: Wirestock will pay you the referral commission from our share of the earnings (the 15%), so rest assured that your referrals earnings will not be affected in any way. Its a fantastic way to benefit from helping grow the Wirestock community!


I'm only in it for the money.  https://wirestock.io?ref=peter.klinger  Mercenary, money grubbing, promotion, referral link = https://wirestock.io?ref=peter.klinger

BTW here's more from WS about what they pay you.

https://wirestock.io/docs/faq?q=doYouHaveAReferral

"Why Do I Need Wirestock?

Selling on all major marketpaces from a single account is a unique feature that helps creators save time and boost sales by more than 10 times. In addition Wirestocks one-of-a-kind Easy Submission tool takes the writing of metadata off of creators shoulders, filling out descriptions, titles, keywords, and other required fields for them. The required information will be filled out by Wirestock submission experts, so you will be getting top quality while boosting your sales in the meantime.

How Do I Get Paid?

Payment structure

You will get 85% of all royalties earned through Wirestocks partner marketplaces. The earnings will be displayed on your dashboard. At the end of each month, you will be paid the total amount earned if the balance on your account exceeds the minimum payout amount."

Conclusion? You can make 85% by submitting the files, that are making nothing. And you are now making 100% of nothing, instead of 85% of something. If you make $1, it's more than nothing. You said you have 5,000 files, and no time to do anything with them. WS will do the data and distribution and pay you whenever you reach $30 in credit. (oh and the coolest part is, they will give me $3!)


Click here now, everyone, make me some money?  https://wirestock.io?ref=peter.klinger 

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Dreamstime.com / Re: $100 payout minimum sucks!!!
« on: May 13, 2024, 13:17 »
I am waiting for a year now , still at 79!  :-X

I make more on DraftKings now than DT. Honest. That's how bad things have gotten. $78.21 right now, want to race to the end?  :)


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General - Top Sites / Re: DPReview - Can't Log In
« on: May 13, 2024, 13:07 »
Dpreview closedown. Year maybe two ago.

What world is that? Sorry, they were going to close, got sold, up and running, just fine.

I am unable to log-in to dpreview.com. Anyone heard anything?

I get "user does not exist" message.

I got "Password reset required for user due to security reasons." see if that helps? But they are open and running. I just changed my password and logged on.

Just in case you have a specific link that's broken?  https://www.dpreview.com/


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The message was simple - the new iPad can take the place of all these things and be your new creative tool.  The execution was horrific because you didnt know where it was going until the final punchline.

Oh, and using Cher, that would be upsetting to some people?  ;)

I got the all these obsolete things, but really? A tablet is going to be the "everything for everyone" machine? I didn't see if it had a GPS. I still use my GPS?  ;D

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The AI generation is the dream for incompetent, lazy people who don't even have respect for the word "artist", who were previously only capable of producing photographic craps. Even ignorant kids play to destroy this previous world by using these new technological toys without even having to leave their room, ...

yes, definitely! always attack all the users rather than accepting the world is changing

exactly like the disparagement of mobile pix before they mastered the market.

resistance is futile

Well if someone is a poor photographer and doesn't understand lighting and exposure, they can always shoot RAW and fix it in Photoshop? Talk about new technology destroying the art and allowing no talent people to repair their images and make them suitable. Digital cameras are destroying the art.

Bring back film.  ;) No, wait, bring back Black and White film. All this new digital camera stuff has ruined it for real photography.

AI might kill some of the business, but there will always be a need for quality and skilled people. Real photos will still have a market. Just a smaller segment than in the past. Yes, the world is changing. Adapting and adjusting to change is important. No wait, it's not important, it's survival and necessary.

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Pete, of course you do have a point. There are much broader professions that someone can apply themselves in to: accounting and ip comes to mind. It never was photography or arts

And we have minds that create, so most of the people here would never be accountants. Oh I suppose the criminals need creative accounting?  ;D

Starving artists are as old as oil paint. Maybe older. Most of the great ones, the classics, had patrons or came from wealth. Reputation followed and in more cases, recognition was after death. I admire people who create. I'm sure no artist and what I make, from my mind, isn't ever going to be popular or interesting to the masses. In fact, it's often more like, "I'm glad you told me, I didn't know what that was, or why you did it."  ;D

So for me, and my views towards others, it's fine to be unusual, individual or eccentric. Some days I wonder if producing Stock Photos is like being a doughnut baker? Same circles and endless holes, day after day, around and around.

I'm not in this for the money, but being paid for what I do, does help me with some motivation and inspiration. Sliced vegetables, all the way, all day, every day!

In search of the UAP, best cheeseburger in the universe? The greatest darn cheeseburger in Microstock?



Or maybe the quest, reaching for the perfect tomato?



Hail all, pets, Sunsets, flowers, things you find around the house, lone tree on a hill, multicultural business hand-shakes or posed smiling people, eating salads... it's better than being an accountant or IP tech.

I say "Hot Dog" this is Microstock.


(still waiting for that first sale of that one?)

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yes, definitely a visually disgusting ad. btw, it's funny - after they got rid of steve jobs - the "innovation" (at least for consumer products for iPhones/iPads) has been next to nil. who cares about 1mm 'thinner', etc?

Thinner, lighter, and for only $1,000 or $1,300 we could have the latest model that we don't really need? This is the usual Apple business churn, driving people to buy new models. Finally the governments of the world have intervened and forced Apple to use a stand USB plug. Also the courts have ordered Apple to allow repairs by outside people. Yes, consumers have won the right to repair their devices, which Apple didn't want.

I have an iPhone, I love it. I have an iPad, which works just fine. That's the original SE and an iPad 5. What Apple tried to tell me is, my phone is obsolete, and they don't make parts or batteries for them. Five years is obsolete in Apples mind, plus they lied, over and over, about sudden shut downs, and said, the battery was fine, it's something else. New battery and everything works again.

Nope I don't trust Apple, but the phone works better with things I need it for, than the Androids did. One company had no software that would work with Android. As a hired web employee, for another, I had to have an iPhone. So fine, I have one. But that won't make me like anything Apple, ever again. They are unethical and manipulative as a company.

Cute ad, I don't know why it's so upsetting. They paid to crush all that stuff and some colorful paint. How does a pulled ad, somehow get more attention and views, for free, than the pay version. Did they do that on purpose? Yeah, make an ad so controversial that people spread it and anyone who doesn't know or care will be led to go watch it.

New Coke?

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b) If you somehow eliminated that situation (simple solution, don't approve east indian accounts, and disable existing ones post jan 2023 when the media made a co-rodinated annoucement to 'officially' bring public awareness to theft-based ai, even though it's already existed for years, side topic - most high level "media" (i.e., t.v. "news") is XXXX run, and most big "ai" companies (i.e., midjourney, chatGPT, etc) are XXX run -......

your anti-semitic libels are uncalled for  (marked in red above), as are your continued slams against all 1+ billion East Indians

Thanks for noticing. I was wondering how many East Indians are Jews?  :o Oh I see, it's those two groups and probably more.

My view is, it's unnecessary to blame and label people for origins or their ethnicity or religion as the cause of problems in the stock industry or our business.

Could we stick to business and AI an skip the personal attacks?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 05, 2024, 21:13 »
Just a quick and easy way to profit, from your backlog.

But I won't profit at all if the metadata is crap.  85% of nothing is the same as 100% of nothing.  Beleive me, I could do some half-assed metadata myself and FTP the clips myself and not give up any percentage. But why waste my time?

If someone could demonstrate to me they could do excellent metadata I'd gladly give up 25%.  But they can't.  It takes effort to describe the content correctly and choose the right keywords and exclude unhelpful keywords -- but they won't make the investment in time and attention.  Metadata is king!!  Most people totally underestimate it's importance.  9 times out of 10 people have asked me to look at their portfolio because they aren't getting sales, it turns out their metadata is crap.

I would be very careful with Wirestock. You also will need to take a monthly subscription in order to get your content distributed to agencies. $14.99 for 200 submissions per month. On top of the 15% commission they take.

I tested them when it was still free, except for the 15% commission, and the keywording done by them was below par. That said, content uploaded through Wirestock gets sold on the agencies.

I got increasingly more dissatisfied with them, as they just do what they like with your content without giving much transparency or control over it. They onboard new agencies as they like, and some of them are agencies you might not want to be affiliated with (bottom of the barrel stuff). Back then, their site was also full of bugs which took forever to fix. In the end, the monthly subscription killed it for me, and now I just take the money from what I uploaded back then.

I would only use them for content you don't really care about, and never plan to upload. So if you have a few thousands of useful clips that are sitting there and you don't plan to upload it you might give it a try. In that case, I would contact them directly, and try to work out a deal. 200 assets/month upload limit is ridiculous and will take you forever.

I think you covered that quite well.

I was only making a simple point, which has turned into many side discussions, variations, inspections, and contradictions.

Here's what I was trying to point out. If someone has 5,000 videos and is too busy with better ways to make money and more profitable endeavors. They could dump them on a distribution platform, and continue doing the more profitable work.Yes, another negative is, paying for 200 files a month, which is also limiting. Or some annual plan. How long would it take to upload 5,000 files?  ;D

You also hit something in that WS makes deals. Someone with 5,000 video files, could probably say, here's what I have, and WS would jump at the volume and quality of someone established. But I can't speak for them or any promises of some hypothetical. I can say that, WS does make special deals, outside of the published.

Let me reduce this to minimal math. If I have 500 files, making nothing and I upload them "somewhere" and I make $1. I have $1, and doing nothing, I have NOTHING. Which is more?  :)

Yes I know, there's no incentive to make $1, but $1, $100 or $1,000 is always going to be more than nothing. The only sure thing in this is, if someone does nothing, uploads nothing, I can promise them a sure thing. They will earn nothing.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 02, 2024, 16:06 »
You quoted Marketplace which has nothing at all to do with the distribution. You took something irrelevant and out of context.

That's why I asked.  They have a terrible website so, don't blame me for not understanding.  Where do they talk about metadata?

As for giving up 15%.  Nope.  Not gonna do it unless they can show me how good they are at metadata. That is the key to success.  Adobe offered to do metadate for me a few years ago and it was a joke.  I'd have to see some examples before committing.

They (Wirestock) went from terrible to, allowing us to add our own, to not so really good, and I don't know if they read ours anymore? You can be the best judge by looking at some agencies and files that are submitted by WireStock, because there's another down side. The name on the agencies is theirs, if that matters.

I wouldn't claim their metadata is above, basic, obvious, descriptions. I can give them a break, in some ways, because they don't know the details, but sometimes that's what sells a license.

I was only half serious, in saying, if you have 5,000 files, and you're too busy, a place like Wirestock is the answer. It still comes down to, give them 15%, let them do the work and make something, vs make nothing. I don't shoot enough to make it worth my while, while you appear to have a backlog of good work. Some people like them, many more people, don't feel there's a value in a paid account, and giving WS 15%. They do their own.

So the key to this is, nothing vs something, not about quality or best way to make money. Just a quick and easy way to profit, from your backlog.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: $100 payout minimum sucks!!!
« on: May 02, 2024, 15:55 »
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in another attempt to call out these silly 'worst case' scenarios - i'll bet you $100 that DT is still here a year from now

Make it $10 maybe that's low enough that you can collect in a year? DT isn't going away for a long time.


i'm not so much interested in making a few bucks as in exposing how little confidence they has in their claim.  made it $100 so they won't lose money when DT goes under!

Oh I see, you'll cover their loss if DT goes under, kind of like a one year insurance policy for the amount of the protection. I wouldn't pay $5,000 in insurance for a $5,000 car.

...
There's a simple confidence tester and it only costs him Ten Bucks.

(If there's any doubt, I'll back you, for half the $100 loss, no charge, that's my level of confidence) $10 vs $100.
but i'm not offering insurance - i'm calling his bluff about DT going under - if they're right they're protected but if DTs still here, maybe they'll forgo silly chicken-little predictions in the future -- and the bet is open for a few others who think DT will be gone

Just trying to help you make some "Free Money" when DT doesn't go out of business.   ;D 



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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 02, 2024, 15:50 »
Here you go, Wirestock, my link. Upload and let them do the work, the data and distribution to all the agencies. You just keep working on what keeps you busy and WS makes you more money. 5000 files should make you far more, on all the agencies, than it does sitting on your hard drive?

It looks like you are giving up 50% of your commissions.  Is that correct?  If so, what do you get for giving up half your income in perpetuity?

Fifty (50%) percent of the months total revenue generated and actually paid to Wirestock for subscriptions to the Wirestock Marketplace (Marketplace Subscription Revenue) will be paid to contributors of Marketplace Content (the Total Contributor Share). You agree and understand that Wirestock will keep the remaining fifty (50%) percent of each months Marketplace Subscription Revenue. You agree and understand that the monthly amount you earn and the method by which Wirestock determines your earnings each month from the months Total Contributor Share will be determined by Wirestock, in its sole discretion, and Wirestock may change how it calculates your compensation from month to month, without advance notice to you. You agree and understand that the specific method by which Wirestock determines, in its sole discretion, how to compensate you from the months Total Contributor Share will be published in Wirestocks FAQs, found here, and the FAQ related to Marketplace compensation is hereby incorporated by reference into these terms.


Who does the metadata, you or them?

15% they do the metadata they do the uploads, no minimum cash outs by agency, as soon as you reach $30 you get paid, every month. Yes, you are giving them 15% to do the metadata and upload, forever, for all future sales. But 85% of something, is far more than 100% of nothing?  ;)

You quoted Marketplace which has nothing at all to do with the distribution. You took something irrelevant and out of context.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 02, 2024, 15:46 »

I have a similar view. The size of a portfolio is of course an important factor from a purely mathematical point of view.

Nevertheless, there have been and still are indications that an extremely fast and extensively growing portfolio does not automatically guarantee that the download figures and revenues will grow in parallel.

Of course, I don't know how the algorithms work. So I can only make assumptions. But I am firmly convinced that an extreme expansion of the portfolio with the pure goal of mass can even be very harmful for the findability of the images. I believe that a small portfolio with well-ranked images can be damaged if countless poor-quality images are added to it. But once again: I can't prove that.

With a similar point, people who say images need to age, to make better sales, are neglecting the math and fact, that you only know what sells, after the fact. So of course, after years, you will see what has sold more, than in weeks or months. The time is the difference, not because images will sell better, but because they HAVE sold better.

If we only know whether more images, made more sales, because there are more, or because the popularity of some images, which is hard to predict, is only because the cream rises to the top. I mean in this way. 100 great images and that's it, or 100 great images and 900 maybe, good enough images. If we know what a "great Image" is, then the only advantage would be, from the 900 others, we might have misjudged some, and they will make more total sales, than the just 100 images.  :)

Who here knows that this great image they just made is going to be a success, and has never been wrong? Or who here, has uploaded something, not so special, that probably wasn't going to work out, but it took off and unexpectedly sold.  Raise Your Hand?  ;D

Back to the great 100 theory. The other 900 may not be significant, but there could be a sleeper in there, and there could be a dud or two in the best 100.

That's the only reason I'd say more is better. Pure math. Otherwise, "Nevertheless, there have been and still are indications that an extremely fast and extensively growing portfolio does not automatically guarantee that the download figures and revenues will grow in parallel."

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 02, 2024, 15:34 »

 I've got a backlog of about 5000 4K clips that are all edited and graded.  Will I ever find time to do the metadata and get them earning some money for me?  I don't know.  Too busy with other work to even think about it right now.  Metadata is the bane of my existence.   It takes time to do it well, and if you don't take that time, then why upload at all? Without good metadata it is just a waste of time.

Here you go, Wirestock, my link. Upload and let them do the work, the data and distribution to all the agencies. You just keep working on what keeps you busy and WS makes you more money. 5000 files should make you far more, on all the agencies, than it does sitting on your hard drive?

https://wirestock.io?ref=peter.klinger


ut I have very small port of 800 clips. Obviously I wont compete with people that has 10k+, and being longer on the market.

The size of another contributor's account does not give them an advantage.  Every clip has to stand on its own merits.  In other words, if I have 10,000 clips and you have 800, but we both have two clips that are very similar, mine does not have an advantage just because my portfolio is bigger than yours.  There is no reason not to submit good content that meets the needs of buyers.

Good Point!

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Dreamstime.com / Re: $100 payout minimum sucks!!!
« on: May 02, 2024, 15:25 »
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in another attempt to call out these silly 'worst case' scenarios - i'll bet you $100 that DT is still here a year from now

Make it $10 maybe that's low enough that you can collect in a year? DT isn't going away for a long time.

i'm not so much interested in making a few bucks as in exposing how little confidence they has in their claim.  made it $100 so they won't lose money when DT goes under!

Oh I see, you'll cover their loss if DT goes under, kind of like a one year insurance policy for the amount of the protection. I wouldn't pay $5,000 in insurance for a $5,000 car.

Here's a plan? You bet blvdone $10 that DT will still be open in a year, and if they shut down, you pay him $100. If they are still open, he pays you $10 for the disaster coverage policy? Make it nice and inviting. $10 covers his loss until July 31st 2025. He gets a couple months free.

There's a simple confidence tester and it only costs him Ten Bucks.

(If there's any doubt, I'll back you, for half the $100 loss, no charge, that's my level of confidence) $10 vs $100.

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