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« on: January 14, 2025, 08:40 »
Not so sure about that. Getty has already warned multiple times about using AI in their submissions and given plenty of advice of what can be done and what not. I would not be surprised if they close accounts that violate their policies , no matter how many files in their portfolios or how successful..... But next generation cameras will be using ai integrated into their software. What happens then?
AI will be everywhere. The agencies are fighting a losing battle. I'm sure iStock and others are already flooded with AI-modified videos and images without them even knowing it.
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« on: January 14, 2025, 08:36 »
More and more customers are being aware of this horror stories, and I am 100% sure that they will turn away or will be given instructions to stay away from this type of content or agencies that do not have solid ways to not have a solid way this crap slips through them.
Kudos so far for Getty to be very strict in this regard. They will kick out in an eye blink who ever tries to disregard this rules, and I think this time their are completely correct and protecting the library of those abuses. What they will do with the contaminated SS we will see, but I guess that large clients that want assurance they do not get horrid samples as those that have been posted here will have more motives to stay on the Getty library. At the end the Adobe IA acceptance move might be much more problematic than first expected.
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« on: January 14, 2025, 01:48 »
Adobe is loosing face and very quick with all this crap. I would not be surprised if very soon all contributors will receive a message that many of the AI images done by contributors that have those blatant errors will get deleted. They cannot check one by one, so I have no clue on how they are going to do that, but this kind of weird stuff, and there is a lot of it, makes Adobe look very bad to buyers....... Stock photo images are not real.
Only editorial is real.
No photograph is real, but is the result of the photographer's framing choices, the use of light, the choice of camera and lens used, and the final retouching in post-processing.
It is a transposition into 2D of a 3D scenario.
But, a photograph is still a sampling from reality, and if one does not make a collage, everything is in its place.
I do Travel and Landscape and for 15 years I have obtained excellent sales results because I try to be faithful to the original scene.
On the first page of Adobe Stock's London AI images there is this image.

When was the second Big Ben built? Tonight?
Today my Adobe Stock sales have taken off like a rocket and I will probably make my historical record of daily downloads. Back from vacation in Europe or the new search without AI?
I don't know. But it is a shame to see images like the one above. And there are so many in Adobe Stock's AI offer.
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« on: January 12, 2025, 17:10 »
I was using stocksubmitter before and although it is an amazing program, it has also good support, but it was quite expensive for my needs. I jumped to Imstocker and I am very happy with the change. I tried Xpiks but the experience was not so good for video uploads , that's what I use it for. I now only upload twice a year at most and Imstocker is easy , uploads and submits and has great key wording integration for a good price. For the time being, I will keep working with Imstocker.
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« on: January 12, 2025, 04:20 »
It seems more and more buyers are fed up seeing AI images. Shutterstock says the same and Istock /Getty only shows real images.......it seems that leaving AI by default out will become the norm.
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« on: January 10, 2025, 15:49 »
I think all those that do not label their image can be stopped very easy.
First time you get caught with a single image not labeled 1 month suspension of the account. Second time 6 months. Third time for life.
The problem ends tomorrow.
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« on: January 07, 2025, 07:02 »
I am image exclusive, although my thousands of videos are not in Getty neither in Shutterstock (although they are in P5 that is part of SS now).
I have long not been contributing stills as the profit is not there anymore, but I still do video from time to time. Depending on what's next I might take action with my stills or even provide videos again if any of those two dinosaurs improve conditions which I am 99% sure will not happen.
In any case merged or not creative photography is already dead in the next years as Gemini , OPEN AI and others improve day after day. Video will take a little longer as it is much more complex and processor intensive, but both companies know the writing is on the wall, and they will try to suck what's left of the orange juice dry while they can.
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« on: December 19, 2024, 18:36 »
Worst month in a decade.
Amazing on how fast stock income is declining on Getty / Istock. I remember I was pulling a 5 figure monthly in 2012. At this pace it will be quite soon that it will be a 3 figure. I am no longer contributing to still images and that might surely add up to the decline, but with 20k assets it would be a huge waste of time to counterweight this falling rock when my other initiatives are growing fast and video on other sites is stable or growing depending on the agency.
Really surprised at this low month. November used to be a strong one, at least for me.
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« on: December 11, 2024, 10:22 »
I have disabled now both my regular non exclusive account and exclusive account data earnings. Those still stay in Adobe but P5 is out. For me 20% not worth it. Exclusive account will also not receive anymore files from me. 10% more is way to low to have them only in one place. Those where there because the 60% and barely but no kiss goodbye.
it is Shutterstock. They will bring it down year by year until 15 or 20% non exclusive as the Shutterstock slaves already receive. So no surprise here. Who knows, they might even try down the road a 15% rate like Isuck.
In any case it has been now 2 years that I started to move away from stock. AI and sliding rates make this not a sustainable business for contributors. I still make 50k on stock, but this is not my focus anymore.
Merry Christmas....Shutterstock always knows how to chear up contributors.
In any case, watching with pleasure their stock collapse. Let's see if December 25 they are around 20$ /share.
Good luck to all.
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« on: October 30, 2024, 13:09 »
Thank you for your clear analysis that I think is spot on. They will continue to fall and if i am not wrong that fall will be every year faster and more dramatic. Their share price is low as ever. About the content you can already see that what is supplied is for very and I mean very low quality.
The stock creative business is going down and the rulers of the game is what we always thought would be....Google, Microsoft, Adobe , Nvidia are going to rule it with IA creation...... The editorial business is here to stay but this one will make all these companies that relied on creative assets from music to images and videos much smaller than they are today.
Shutterstock and Getty are specially despised by contributors for a lot of reasons. Most of them will not share a single tear as they are slowly going under.
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« on: October 19, 2024, 05:19 »
In my case my revenue is falling like a rock in Getty (exclusive photographer) and growing more and more as a video independent artist in Adobe. P5 is also looking much better since the new price arrangements.
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« on: October 11, 2024, 17:16 »
2400 selected I will not accept a single one. Not fair to have the same videos for sale on other sites and here for free.
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« on: October 06, 2024, 15:36 »
It is really terrible. Payoneer is now a very expensive option to retrieve funds for europeans. The fair thing to do for all the agencies would be to give us the Wise option which is much much cheaper in fees and exchange rates.
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« on: September 23, 2024, 11:12 »
I also had no luck with their email support but I got my questions answered in their Telegram Chat. I would also much prefer a personalized answer by email as I thing the Telegram chat is a mess with so many conversations and you have to look for your questions among many others. I hope they can improve their communication with email as well. It is all good, but you don't reply to emails for months.
I have sent numerous emails from different email addresses (thinking maybe one of my addresses got into spam), and NONE got replied. The product looks good but the absence of support is a show-stopper for me.
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« on: September 19, 2024, 17:18 »
Quite obvious by the different styles of the portfolio that this is a big thief . Same with the Freepik company. These are crooks and thieves that do not care that other crooks and thieves operate under their roof. Another Freepik thief, stole at least one of my images. I just wrote to Freepik about it. 
The Freepik thief: https://www.freepik.es/autor/askg
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« on: September 18, 2024, 06:56 »
Over 1000$ here . Only videos.
I received also an very small amount on P5 and have deactivated the training option there. Not worth it.
But I am happy with Adobe revenue and will contribute to it.
Unfortunately for many of us AI will not go away and it will take over (not in editorial content) at some point. I accept it if the revenue is worth it . In P5/Shutterstock it is not so the reason for my deactivation there.
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« on: August 18, 2024, 01:10 »
Another piece of crap.
Adobe is now the worst stock agency not in terms of contributors royalties but for buyers searches.
It offers so much ai crap, with very bad execution than the whole place has suffered with now a low reputation among buyers.
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« on: July 15, 2024, 23:52 »
The day it happens to me I will go to a notary so to make it credible on court with every image and video. For every one of those I would ask at least 100$. So if we are talking about a few it is not worth it and just file a complain to SS. If you are talking of hundreds of files that is the route I would take.
I would also prove that SS is acting in bad faith and would search additional damages because of that. Hire a good IP lawyer and I am preety sure SS would have to pay you big bugs.
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« on: July 08, 2024, 13:41 »
I deleted all my thousands clips in Shutterstock and Istock. I will do the sane when I see therelation becomes abusive like with the mentioned two sites.
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« on: May 08, 2024, 09:47 »
If you keep predicting the same things maybe one of these years you'll be right. So far you are 100% wrong about SS going out of business. None of those will buy SS as the Micro market is dying. They would want something that has a future.
Stock price has fallen from 125$ only a couple of years ago to 38 now.......and it will keep sinking........it's game over for them........
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« on: May 08, 2024, 09:39 »
I think you got a case to bring Adobe to court. I think it is so blatantly obvious that any judge will rule in your favor. You have here a golden ticket to retirement if you play your cards well but I would ask not only for statutory damages , copyright infringement but also for a lack of compliance on Adobe part to respect the author's copyright. The sum you can make out of such a case is astronomical if you win. Talk to a lawyer.
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« on: May 05, 2024, 02:47 »
I predicted in 2021 that Shutterstock would start to go under in a few years. They have already lost the dominant position they had at that time. Their stock price has collapsed and investors are not seeing any value in their expensive acquisitions (P5, Envato now , etc).
They stabbed in their back contributors in the worst time possible, and the "North" remembers as the saying in the great fantasy series. Many top dog contributors abandoned SS altogether. Sure ...they might increase number of content but....have you seen what is added in the new images and videos.........amateur shots, they can take as many as they want, be larger as Flickr ever was but the great content consumers are going to other agencies where they find what they cannot on SS anymore. And no content data training will avoid the shipwreck.
So I want to give a prophecy again. In under 3 years a big dog like Microsoft , Google, Meta will swallow up SS and all their content at a bargain price. We might see stock well under 20$ at that time.
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« on: April 14, 2024, 15:31 »
I have a few thousand files exclusive in P5. For me it is not worth it all all, but for editorial files it is. Lots of factors to take one decision or another. Everyone need to decide. it is better to have files on both, but i think you will discover it is not worth it.
quote author=Faustvasea link=topic=38405.msg602225#msg602225 date=1713121647] Hi. so I AM considering going exclusive with pon5 with around 900 clips. the question is, is it worth it? I had my first sale with them this month, and thinking to get the most money from my video.
I did sold more videos on AS, but they have different prices, so each time the sale was different. Thanks [/quote]
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« on: April 12, 2024, 16:32 »
67$. Opted out from both....exclusive and non exclusive accounts. Not worth the peanuts. I also never give in to the free for 1 year payments at Adobe stock and they pay more so they can train on other videos. I will not blink an eye for the lost "amazing big revenue"
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« on: March 25, 2024, 00:16 »
Long time contributor.
The explanation Getty gave is fishy to say the least.
I just don't buy it because on the strong discrepancies of the amounts paid in every transactions.
I think it is long due a deep auditory of their accounts. Personally I don't trust their accuracy, transparency and honesty of their statements.
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