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Canon / Re: Canon T2i/550d focusing issue
« on: April 12, 2010, 22:06 »
OK, after some tabletop tests it seems that the "ONE SHOT" mode is reliable.  The focus takes place more or less under the exact spot selected and doesn't change when the camera is moved.  But it does consider an area somewhat surrounding the actual dot, presumably because the tiny area of the defined focus square is often too small to use just by itself.  Maybe if I try to position the model's eyes or lips right under the dot when focusing.

The "AI SERVO" mode works, but it is so slow to react to movement that it's probably useless for shooting sports.  Not that I really plan to.  I believe that this was one of the "Cons" identified by dpreview.com in its recent in-depth review.

The in-between, "AI FOCUS" mode takes a long time to realize that things are moving, and then bump the camera into "AI SERVO" mode.  Not that it does much good.

The relatively dim light of the strobes' model lights may not be helping, plus the camera probably doesn't have an image processor as powerful as high-end gear.

There may also be a problem with softness of the lens when shooting a full-length shot with the model's head somewhere near the edge of the image.  Though with a 50mm f/1.8 Canon lens on an APC sensor at f/8 I wouldn't expect this softness to be more than negligible.  I'll take some more shots with a test chart.

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Canon / Re: Canon T2i/550d focusing issue
« on: April 12, 2010, 21:03 »
Check if your camera is set for Ai servo.  I rarely manage to make it work, it goes find some place else to focus.

It's set to "ONE SHOT" but behaving as if it's on "AI FOCUS" where it will lock focus on the point you select but automatically switch to "AI SERVO" if it detects movement.

Another possibility is that the "farthest out" autofocus point is not really where it says it is.  Maybe it's not really under that little square in the viewfinder but somewhere closer to the center.  I think I can overcome this by only using the center autofocus point.  That should work except it will be a wider swing of the camera afterward to recompose.

I'd better do some more experimenting with blocks on a table and find out what's going on ...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: I don't understand
« on: April 12, 2010, 20:20 »
No, when the system is working correctly, the database is updated once a day.  Accepted images will show up the next day. 

If you looked in the help forum, you would see the threads discussing the issues of last Thursday's outage.  Nothing has been indexed since then.

Thank you!  Just caught up on the whole thread.  That was a doozy of an outage.

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Canon / Canon T2i/550d focusing issue
« on: April 12, 2010, 20:03 »
So I got one of these cameras after all, and I'm extremely happy with it.  My acceptance rate went to 100% except for a couple of random quibbles about "overall composition could be improved".  Whatever.

Everything about the camera works great (still photos, not trying videos yet) but one problem has been happening consistently.  Shooting about 15-20 feet (5-6 meters) away from from a standing subject with a 50mm lens (around 85mm effective with APS sensor) at f/8 I find it almost impossible to get the camera to focus on the subject's face in full-length shots - especially if they are holding anything in front of them like a camera, football etc.

There are 9 autofocus points.  I use the menu/buttons to switch from "camera decides which zone to autofocus" to manually select the autofocus point, picking the point nearest the subject's face.  I tilt the camera slightly to place the point over the face, hold down the button halfway and it locks.  Then I quickly recompose and shoot, before the subject moves.  But the focus is virtually never on the face, but always somewhat forward, in the region of the object they are holding (maybe 6 inches in front).

Do you think that the camera is basically overriding my selection of the focus point and trying to compromise between the area of the image under the selected point, but still taking data from some of the other points?  I can see how in amateur shooting this might help save someone's vacation shots, but when I absolutely must have the eyes and teeth "tack sharp" at 100% it's very annoying.

I'm sure that better cameras have more sophisticated focusing, but for now I would like to get my $1000 worth of photos out of this baby if at all possible.

If there isn't a way to configure or trick the camera's computer then I guess I'll have to switch to manual focus on a tripod or monopod and try to discourage the model from moving too much.  Or is that how most people shoot standing models in the studio anyways?

Or maybe switching to f/11 and cranking up the lights would be sufficient ...

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iStockPhoto.com / I don't understand
« on: April 12, 2010, 19:21 »
... when images begin to show up in the search engine.  When I go searching for my own images it seems to take maybe a week after approval before they start showing up using their original, approved keywords.

You can see this for yourself if you try a really generic search like "one person" AND computer.  The newest image that I can find in any keyword search sorted by 'Age' is always around a week to 10 days old.  Even the "Browse Recent" button seems to show exclusive images (presumably reviewed and approved in only a couple of days) that are over 5 days old.  Not exactly hot out of the camera.

Yet the "views" ticker for my newest images starts going up, often within minutes of the approval email being sent.  Somebody is finding my images right away, but how?  Are there different search queues, indexes or servers for some users versus others?

Among other problems, if the length of time before images show up in queries is slow or irregular then this will make it harder to drop seasonal content into the hopper "just in time".

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Question for buyers or for experienced photogs - does it actually help to put in an image title that the image is XL, XXL, etc. or are multi-megapixel cameras so common that this is of relatively little worth?  And shurely most buyers are aware of how to use image size in their search criteria?

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Lighting / Re: Which Alienbees Flashunit?
« on: April 02, 2010, 20:25 »
I like my Alienbees.  I tried a B800 with giant softbox and a single B400 for background but found that the background was not fully lit for full-length people shots (it was adequately lit but not fully white from head to toe, this may be OK depending on what you want).  So I added a second B400 and have been in heaven ever since.  Well, except I would like to expand my studio space by about 6 feet vertically and on each side, and by about 12 feet in length   :-\

If you add a full-length silver reflector just in front of your subject on the opposite side of the main light, I think you'll find the lighting very satisfactory.  Painting the walls white but pinning up black broadcloth strategically will help get the light where it should be.  Stock doesn't seem to normally require hair lights for that glamorous look so unless you're going into business as a portrait photog then I think you could skip the 4th light.  I think I would have to cut a hole in my ceiling to use one anyways.

I imagine a B1600 type flash would only be required for large sized studios when shooting more than two models.  For 1-2 models and product shots I think the B800 is adequate.  I shoot with it about 5-6 feet from subjects with softbox at f/8 ISO 100.

While I would like the ease of having a "commander" type solution for controlling the flashes, for now I'm happy with only a single basic Alienbee transmitter and one receiver with the other flashes triggered as slaves.  Every so often I have to switch the receiver to a different flash, but in the scheme of things that's very little work.

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Searching at IS, couldn't find any images of what I wanted under "cut glass" but I think this is a keyword problem.  It considers "cut glass" to be a synonym with "crystal".

Google turned up quite a few images at istock of the type I had in mind so I guess it's OK. 

http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=site%3Aistockphoto.com%20%22cut%20glass%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

I hope that customers know enough to try google if they get no results with the built-in search.  Probably lots odd things like that which fall between the cracks, leading me to conclude that it is vital to specify a clear and meaningful image title and description, especially if it's something for which the keywords are inadequate.

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I understand that these patterns of cut glass are probably distinctive to the maker and the product line ... but are images of these products considered suitable for stock?  Or are they rejected on the grounds of copyright/trademark?


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iStockPhoto.com / When did you branch out?
« on: March 26, 2010, 12:11 »
Many of you (I suspect) started out selling stock at IS.  Then at some point, if you're like me, you shoot enough to run into the 15 per week upload limit.  Maybe some of you decide to stick with IS, nurture it, play along with their limits, to eventually go exclusive according to their schedule.

But this question is for the rest of you, who upload to several sites.  When is a good time to stop cutting your teeth on your first micro agency and start applying to the rest of the top tier of sites - when you have a big library (1000+), as soon as you have a modest portfolio (100 or so), or sometime in the middle?  Do you pound as many images as possible into the pipeline as quickly as possible, or do you stalk the agencies patiently, one by one, uploading only a few of your best images in order to get your feet wet?

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Is your eyedropper set to 1pix or is it measuring the average of a 3pix or a more wide area?

It says "point sample" in CS3 when the eyedropper is selected.

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Got it ...  Playing around more in DPP, I tried tweaking a few more of the parameters away from their default values.  The one which is the guilty party is "Auto Lighting Optimizer".  Switching it off before saving the 16bit TIFF means that when the TIFF is opened in CS3, the full 255/255/255 white background highlights are preserved when the image is eventually converted to JPEG.

It's a weird problem because it "looks" like it's still 255/255/255 in CS3 according to the image info, but evidently the Auto Lighting Optimizer shaves a tiny amount off the 16-bit RGB values which only manifests itself when the CS3 JPG conversion algorithm decides that 254/254/254 is what they really meant.

Whew!

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I tried using DPP to convert to "Exif-TIFF 8bit" instead of "TIFF 16bit" and the problem no longer happens.  The 255/255/255 background stays that way when opened in PS CS3 and converted to JPEG.

I still have a couple of questions -

1) Is DPP messing up the conversion of RAW to TIFF 16bit, or is CS3 messing up the handling of TIFF 16bit?  Or is the camera firmware messing up the encoding of RAW?

2) Is there a significant practical reason to prefer 16-bit TIFF to 8-bit TIFF as a middle step between RAW to JPG?  I suppose that the 16-bit version preserves more color information, or whatever, but in this case I assume that the "extra" color information is somehow being rounded off, truncated or otherwise converted incorrectly at some stage.

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I'm having a problem which is puzzling me.  While shooting with my Canon T2i/550d in Raw+Fine mode in the studio, the background is blown out pure white as I intended.  In the camera's playback with histogram, the background is blinking to indicate this.

I open the raw CR2 image in Digital Photo Professional v3.8.0 and adjust the camera/lens settings (noise reduction, sharpening, or whatever).  In DPP the "View->Highlight Alert" indicates that the background is blown out.  So far so good.  I do "File->Convert and save ... " and save as "TIFF 16 bit".

Then I open the TIF in Photoshop CS3 to touch up specks of dust, etc.  Moving the eyedropper around the background, the info window says:

Quote
  R: 255
  G: 255
  B: 255

  8 bit

When finished I do "File->Save for Web and Devices ..." and save with the parameters JPEG/Maximum, Quality: 100, Blur: 0.  Here's where the first problem is apparent.  Moving the cursor around the background in the "Save for Web" window, the bottom of the screen says:

Quote
  R: 255  G: 254  B: 255  Alpha: 255  Hex: FFFEFF  Index: --

Why is the green channel now indicating 254?

If I save the file and then open the JPG in CS3, the eyedropper now says that the entire background of the JPG file is:

Quote
  R: 254
  G: 254
  B: 254

  8 bit

Weird, huh?  Some kind of rounding error converting from 16 bit to 8 bits?  Something not working in T2i/550d raw mode, in DPP or in CS3?

I went to a lot of trouble to get the proper studio setup so I wouldn't have to cut out, isolate, brighten the background, etc. in postprocessing, and the software is misbehaving in a way I don't understand.  Or maybe I'm misbehaving.

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Canon / Anyone using the Canon T2i/550d for still photos?
« on: March 06, 2010, 12:13 »
I haven't been able to find a detailed, hands-on review yet at the usual sites (dpreview.com, imaging-resource.com, photozone.de).  A typical question in the pre-reviews seems to be, "Can the kit lens produce decent 18 mp resolution?"  I would like to see some RAW images produced with the kit lens (EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS) and also with a decent fixed-focal lens (e.g. 50mm f/1.4 USM).

The 18 mp resolution handily fits the istock XXL size limit with some room to spare for leveling, cropping and even moderate downsizing.  If it produces images (with decent lighting and a decent lens) which are high enough quality then I don't think that any budget-conscious still stock photographer with significant sales at istock can ignore this camera (given the limitations and compromises of a "consumer" or "prosumer" body).  Not to mention the potential for stock video  :o

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Thanks for the input.

I've been examining the specs and reviews (dpreview.com, imaging-resource.com) and doing a bit more thinking.

The cameras are very similar from the point of view of stock photography.  That is, looking at their RAW mode performance and ignoring what they do internally to JPGs and ignoring their kit lenses.

Except for one big difference, it really comes down to work flow (RAW processing), lens and flash compatibility, camera body feel and ergonomics, look and feel of buttons/menus/displays.  The Canon is a bit cheaper than the Nikon, but the Nikon may have an edge on body feel, ergonomics and durability (e.g. of shutter).

The one big difference is Canon at 15 mp versus Nikon at 12 mp.  In the real world this is unimportant, but in ISTOCKPHOTO universe, the Nikon is just barely within the XL size limit (by 88 pixels horizontal and 48 vertical).  This makes it more critical to frame and level photos "nearly" perfectly because anything other than slight crop/leveling in postprocessing will lose you the $4.50 (XL) versus $3 (L) size on some sales.  I don't know how much that would add up to in practice because I'm only using a 6 mp camera right now, but based on my current ratio of XS-S-M-L sales, I'm guessing that not having an XL version of an image might result in a loss of around 10% of revenues.  This is just a guess - maybe sales drop off steeply after the "Large" size?  And maybe the other agencies have different, arbitrary sizes?  I'm still quite the n00b and haven't sussed out the other agencies yet (still waiting to build up a bigger set of images).

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Photozone.de site is great, thanks.

Also found this site, comparing Nikon D90, D5000 and Canon 500D/T1i features.

http://www.digitalreview.ca/content/Nikon-D5000-D90-Compared-to-Canon-Rebel-T1i-500D.shtml

I would say that so far, the D90 is coming out ahead.  The chromatic aberration in-camera correction feature looks intriguing - if it doesn't mess up the focus or add artifacts then it could save a lot of tedious work manually correcting CA in photoshop.  I've only had to do that a couple of times, but it gave me a strong distaste for that kind of work. :P

Rather than the kit zoom lens, if I got the D90 then I think I would get the 85mm f/1.8 lens, to go with the 18-55mm AFS which came with my D40, and an old 50 mm manual lens someone gave me.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests/221-nikkor-af-85mm-f18-d-review--test-report

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I was wondering if anyone happens to be using either of these 2 cameras for stock, or else is investigating/evaluating either or both of them.

 I'm not married to any brand right now, but I am using a Nikon D40 currently, I have a couple of lenses and I'm fluent in Capture NX2 for the purposes of setting "Sharpening" to "None" before saving to TIF before punting to PS for cloning out random strangers, etc. and saving to JPG  :D

Following the old saying that camera bodies come and go but you're really buying glass, do you have any opinions about Canon 17-85 kit lens compared to Nikon 18-105 VR.

Both these cameras are small-sized sensors.  How important do you think a full-sized sensor is for stock?  E.g. return on $$$.

I'll be investigating the various review websites myself, but if anyone with the specific requirements of stock photography regarding sensor noise, sharpness, etc. already has an opinion and is ready to sound off, please let 'er rip.  And of course any alternative suggestions of different camera/lens combos will also be greatly appreciated.

I'm primarily interested in STILL stock photography.  I'm not against stock video or anything, but it's something I know nothing about and it's not a priority to start shooting video at this time.  So the relative abilities to shoot HD video are not as important to me.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: More bad news on economy
« on: October 14, 2009, 14:04 »
I was hesitating to get on here and start complaining because my port is very small, it's only at one microstock site, and I haven't added new photos for some time.

But since the topic of the bad economy came up ... right now I am experiencing the longest period that I have ever endured without a single download.  Like, three times as long as the previous record drought.  It's not much of a data point, but it is an anomaly compared to activity in the last 14 or so months.  Sales were ticking ... ticking ... ticking ... STOP.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How Much are you making?
« on: October 09, 2009, 14:54 »
I would like to see the income/month related to the number of hours/month spent on the job (slash hobby).  That would give people a better idea of how much they can potentially make.  It would also be interesting to see the total $$$ invested in photo equipment related to these factors.  Possibly this would be skewed however by some hobbyists who spend a lot on equipment just for the pleasure of it, and only sell photos on the side, but ignoring any outliers, this would give people a good idea of how much return they might receive relative to an investment of time and money.

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General Stock Discussion / Model apparel
« on: February 05, 2009, 14:49 »
This quote popped up in another thread.  Apparently a "client" posted this
at a warez site where content is shared illegally.

"good share, shame the kids look so dated. why do they dress
these american kids up in such old and bad fashions...I know
most Americans get clothes from Walmart, but these fake stock
kids would be a last resort for any client job....thanks for upload
....but I need REAL pictures of REAL people.not just badly dressed
models....I see a gap in the market!!!Stock Photographers - any
balls, ??!!??"


Aside from the absurdity of complaining to content providers about
the quality of the stolen content which s/he is enjoying, does this
person have a legitimate complaint?

I rather think that stock, royalty-free images will always tend to contain
bland, Walmart-ish no-name apparel, for reasons of not violating trademarks
or copyrights.

Or maybe what the "client" was complaining about really was 5- or
10-year-old content, and it's just whinging because the latest and most
trendy stock images have not yet been ripped off and shared.

In any case, would anyone care to share some tips about dressing models
for microstock?  Is it Walmart or bust?  Or do you aim for trendy, but
understated fashions from more hip outlets?  I.e. with small or non-existent
logos/labels and without truly distinctive patterns or prints. 

I assume that someone actually plugged into the retail clothing industry
would be able to recognize practically anyone's products in a second based
on color, cut, etc., but the question is, where is the happy medium between
trendy/bland?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Rejections increasing?
« on: December 17, 2008, 22:20 »
Rough edges. Never mind they are really like that in real life. To inspectors the world is fake and artificially rounded.


 :D

Also, I can tell you from experience that there are no gravelly surfaces in the inspectors' world, but plenty of "noisy" ones.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Best Match 2.0
« on: December 09, 2008, 18:32 »
A possible way to get non-biased people to accurately grade the quality of keywords would be to provide a "rate keywords" button with every image.

The rankings would have to be weighted according to how many images one has *downloaded* (purchased).  Those who only upload (sell) images would have zero weight attached to the rankings they submit.  Those who both download and upload would be weighted according to (number_of_downloads) minus (number_of_uploads), to prevent individuals or gangs of uploaders from buying a few images so that they can then vote themselves or their pals upwards.  To prevent contributors from establishing sock puppet downloading accounts, the length of time a downloader has been actively purchasing images would also have to be weighted in.  I.e., if you suddenly announced this feature, you would have to ignore rankings from contributors who suddenly create a new downloading account in order to give themselves a boost.

Hopefully customers who find that they have been victimized by keyword spam would be motivated to give the offending files a "zero (most keywords are spam)" rating, and when they find a good file they would give it a "five (all keywords are accurate)".  It would be easy to flag contributors who mysteriously receive a lot of zeroes/ones and a lot of four/fives, to check whether the high ratings are suspicious (e.g. originating from a small number of buyers).

Likewise, the image quality ratings should be strongly weighted towards *customer* opinions, and (net) contributor ratings should be either ignored or else given a completely different category.

Most images would probably not get any rank, so a contributor's "average" (per image) ranking would have to be used in the best match.  I.e. if they have uploaded 1000 images and 50 of them are ranked, then the average rank assigned to those 50 images is used to weight all of the contributors' photos in the best match.

If the rankings of image and keyword quality are more "real" (from the customers point of view, with the biggest customers having the biggest say) then they could be made a significant part of the best match.  These rankings would help turn the focus from "contributor oriented" and biased, towards "customer oriented".  In other words, let money talk and B.S. walk.

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...

It's also true that if you upload an image that depicts an idea that has been done to death, the reviewer may be inclined to judge it more harshly, given that it's just a repetition of things that are already over-represented on the site. The benefits of being original are even greater when you're independent - you're not locked into one site's vision of what constitutes a good stock image.

...and what about personal integrity - wouldn't you rather believe that you are contributing something of value, instead of simply trying to steal sales from other people? Otherwise, you're just making money at other people's expense, and you haven't contributed anything worthwhile to the world. Why not take some pride in your work?


These are very good points in favor of originality.  Everyone has to find their own niche in which they trade off the competing factors of pride, integrity, hunger, creative satisfaction, ethics, etc.

It's possible to be too original for your own good ... Here is a story by Dave Brubeck about how he failed the audition for an army band because he played cutting edge, challenging jazz whereas all they wanted to know was if he could play the blues:

"... I was playing in two keys at once. This key was probably in G in this hand and B flat in the other hand, which was a device I was using a lot, I think before anybody in jazz. And it kind of shocked Paul and it wasn't smart of me to audition for the band playing at my wildest, which was very wild in those days and I didn't get into the band and I did go overseas in the infantry."

http://www.puredesmond.ca/bru-91.htm

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Its not really rewarding to be original in the Microstockworld, take your time and look at the portfolios and the stats of it, you will see its always the same stuff that sell well though really original and innovative portfolios seems to get no significant downloads at all. So my tip would be if you really create something original don't submit it to a Microstocksite save it for a traditional or macro agency ;-). But note some microstockers think they are original but they aren't at all ;-)

Not only that, but shooting outside the box is also likely to result in rejections because the reviewers are specifically trained to think inside the box with respect to subject, lighting, color, composition, etc.  This motivates a contributor to be a boring copycat and to use other, not-merit based factors to get sales, such as keyword spamming and best match spamming using whatever techniques happen to work with the current algorithm.

I speculate that this tendency is more pronounced right now because the prevailing economic pessimism is leading to generally conservative and cautious business attitudes.  A more optimistic business climate would presumably lead to more originality and creativity in business-related graphic arts.

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