In the past year I became a grandmother and also gained 4 new great-nieces and nephews,. I am white as are my 3 siblings, my husband & his 3 siblings and all our nieces and nephews, but out of the 6 children in this newest generation (one who is three years old in addition to the 5 new babies), 3 are children of color or mixed race (one Asian, 2 African/Caucasian), and to me, that is so heartening, that despite so much bigotry still existent, this generation of Millennials are marrying for love without any prejudices, and our families are so much the richer for it.

I'm sorry, but you are sounding as though you think your families are better (my synonym for "richer") than others because of your "diversity".  I'm sure we are all the richer for lack of prejudices, even if we marry people who match our skin colour. Part of me wonders if the ethnic side of the family feel the same way? (in my personal experience, the answer is: no, but Aussie ethnics tend to only be 1 generation deep).  And dare I suggest your "diversity" is still culturally predominantly American. I married an immigrant, but he has white skin, so that doesn't make us "richer", right?   This whole conversation is just weird, and so very 1st world. Like veganism, this is something only a rich society can afford to argue about and indulge. We should feel blessed.

I get it, it's hard to show "diversity" in photos without some obvious clues, so here we are. How you show LGBT stuff is a head scratcher, without resorting to sexy stuff, which I think crosses over into "using women's bodies" feminist territory. My gay friends tend to look and behave the same as me.... although sure, they spend more on clothes as I have school fees and children to waste money on.  I also have some vegan and far left friends, I gotta say they are far more "diverse" to me than my Chinese/Aussie neighbour.

@ swisschocolate  America isn't the only "melting pot" but the problem of the "diversity" angle is that it's all "american style diversity", so actually the american (californian) culture is being forced on all of us... and let's face it, America is a bit of a mess right now. What they want doesn't work in Australia and NZ, the Uk and Europe, let alone actual Asia, where diversity is not celebrated.  Will the diversity that Adobe recommends resonate worldwide? I doubt it. I'm a Stocksy contributor so i've already seen what passes for "diversity" there, and what is favoured.
at the end of the day we will all know within our own portfolios if the "diversity" stuff sells well, and that will be what drives us to create more, if we so choose. I don't think our society needs saving via the "richness of diversity", frankly a little unity would be good. America already is pretty diverse, probably more diverse than any other nation, why do they beat themselves up about it? it's a tough job to mix races and cultures, we keep pretending it should be easy. I know this convo has gotten a bit more intense but I'm glad for that, our society needs more civil, interesting discussion, and less name calling instead of thoughtful rebuttal.

Quote from: gillian vann on May 23, 2019, 03:37

also in ACR. i haven't done any adobe tutorials, how does it differ to Clarity exactly?

It is a question of "frequency"
It is explained clearly here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=Hlsy2VsCWrE

well haha, i said i hadn't watched any tutes on this new feature, was looking for the 5 word definition, rather than watching a 15min waffle on video.  Although having watched it, it was very good, thanks.
I rarely use Clarity, it's too much for most scenes. (depends on what you shoot of course)

also in ACR. i haven't done any adobe tutorials, how does it differ to Clarity exactly?

i actually missed it even though I was up, but have watched the video recording, nice job.  cheers.

I'm not understanding this "open another account" concept. Isn't the whole point of this exclusivity to be artist+video exclusive at P5? Except now they are suggesting we open another account, Gillian 2.0 and she is exclusive, and Gillian 1.0 isn't. So i can still upload other video elsewhere as before, and exclusive stuff to a new account at P5? I don't understand the point of this, just let us chose which videos are exclusive to P5 from within our existing ports.

Or, do they mean they'll let us keep our old stuff live with them, and live elsewhere but moving forward we can be exclusive only with the new account? What we all really want is to add another layer of work and complication, amiright.

Just let us choose which files are exclusive.

 

I just read the summary of the Town Hall (3am Sydney time, yeah, I never get to see those things live) and relieved to see everyone here is also concerned. I don't have much of a portfolio at P5, currently putting video on Stocksy and some stuff on SS, Getty. There is no way I could go exclusive at Pond 5 without removing probably 1000 images from stocksy, and of course you can't remove content from Getty anyway. This whole idea is bonkers.

I would very happily go per video exclusive at P5, and the majority of us are well trained in what is a "sister image" so we understand the rules. But they must show us respect (rather that talking about respect) and allow us to put rejected work, or more niche work, where it's going to sell best.

I urge P5 to reconsider this move. It's not respectful.

Just got the email, came straight here to see if I was amongst good company, I see all our BS detectors are calibrated and working.

Well, i applied.

I don't have any lifestyle stuff, so probably won't get in, but recently applied to two other agencies I wasn't expecting to get into, but did.

They aren't micro, and was really surprised to be accepted by the one in particular.

I'm generally avoiding micro - I still don't really put stocksy in with other ms agencies in my head.

is Cavan one of them?   They are taking on so many "new" stock photographers lately.

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

I also signed up to Cavan late last year, thinking it would be a good place to park my Stocksy rejects, and I asked about whether I could delete files and still haven't heard back.  it probably was in the agreement, which I only skimmed through. For now I only have 1 small food series on there. I really dislike their image upload process and I haven't been back to add more. I had hoped it would be a good workaround for the Getty "no deletions" rule, but apparently not. The risk of uploading a series, having 90% declined, and a 2 year lock down, is a real problem.

I can't believe you kept the old Fotolia way of displaying sales, probably the worst of anywhere. Why can't I just have all the details (DL & $) in one neat graph? I can't believe i had to come here to find out that the date order needs to be flipped.

If there's anything to be learned it's that a polite first letter that encourages an apology is a good start, and try to firmly negotiate a settlement quickly. Lawyers make everything more expensive and more unpleasant.

what a gorgeous location! very inspiring video.

I'll put my name on the list to be flown out next time...    or perhaps do this same thing in Au, NZ or Singapore, so you can hit the type of diversity that works in my region? I'm keen Matt.  maybe you do a #wildcard option

all 3 were amazing but i was super impressed with how Sean managed to make 7 people look like a crowd.
and so great you had models who actually knew how to work out. (shouldn't be that hard... but I've seen some hilarious stuff)

and finally, *! i want to work for Adobe, what an amazing workplace.