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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Vetta
« on: August 21, 2009, 13:40 »
Looking over my stats via lookstat.com for the past 30 days, my top earning images are mostly coming from Vetta. Images in the Vetta collection that have sold 15-20 times over 30 days are earning more for me than files that have sold 75-100 times in the same time frame.

I see some of the 'artsy' imagery, in Vetta, as being too specific and complete pieces of art. Thru nominating files that were difficult to produce or took an above normal effort, I can now start to see returns on those images right away.

Big big wraps to Vetta.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: how to ubb codes on image description?
« on: August 13, 2009, 06:16 »
I would highly recommend using DeepMeta, www.deepmeta.com. Its compatible with Mac or PC.

It works by displaying every image online @ istock and allows you to select and link images with one click. I just completed about 254 images, attaching thumbnail links and it took 15 minutes.

This is how it should look, http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=10234097

Hope that helps!

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Site Related / Re: Microstockgroup Twitterlist
« on: August 13, 2009, 03:49 »
@joshhphoto - Am retweeting relevant tips and links as well a bit about daily shoots and developing. Would be honoured to have some more followers.. Might motivate me to be more active on it.

Also, here is a photography resource list posted by Photopreneur that will guaranteed be useful for some. http://blogs.photopreneur.com/twitter-photography-resources-list

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Building an RF shot list
« on: August 11, 2009, 06:03 »
Thanks for sharing, Jonathan! I tweeted this around, think its helpful.. and, interesting to an insight into other photogs and the way of thinking.

You go into a lot of detail in your shot list, perhaps this is limiting? I know that if i'm shooting for 8 hours, more than 1 model.. I need to get 200-300 images out of that to see decent returns. But, I could never make a shot list for 200-300 images.. For micro, I tend to think of it in terms of breaking the day up into groups of shots and getting plenty of variants... So finding, the angle and setup and then working out a way of turining it into 5-10 images. Then, looking on a shot list for the next setup where i can get 5-10 more images.

For 'effort' or 'branding' images i like to avoid variants though, makes that one image stand out more and its not an image that is necessarily intended to generate direct sales.

This is intended for RF, so should be taken with a pinch of micro salt, no? Definitely not a criticism as i deeply respect your RF imagery as being well-planned and very well-executed. I think some re-thinking is probably needed for micro though, as the logistics are different..

I don't believe model costs or location cost need to be scaled down more for micro, simply put, they just need to be made more out of.. A day of only 150 images, 8 hours shooting, 4-5 models.. and, I can't be sure that it will break even within the first year of being online. So, covering all bases, I try to push it to 2-300 images from a day.

Thanks again, Jonathan.

Josh

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Are US photo buyers bigots?
« on: August 10, 2009, 04:13 »
I believe using African-American models gives you access to a rapidly expanding market.. There are some circumstances where its just not accurate for a buyer to use an image with an African-American because it misrepresents the ethnic makeup of the company, ie. some parts of europe where there is not so many African-descendent people.

However, its important not to neglect modern Africa itself is a rapidly expanding market, on top of a large percentage of buyers from the US that will want images of African-Americans..

This image has been on the covers of education magazines and been seen on one billboard, in the US alone.

http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-8483429-young-confident-student-standing-in-the-campus.php

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General Stock Discussion / Re: The art of instructing models
« on: August 07, 2009, 05:36 »
It's a nice write-up but I personally don't see it in your pictures! Your pictures are perfectly executed but they look like the typical stuff from Yuri,Lisa etc ; certainly they will sell well but they are extremely boring to look at. I really don't understand how you can talk about inner feelings and emotions etc. come on reality-check it's just a yuri-rip-off are you Yuri inside or what?

This isn't called for, I thoroughly disagree.. Why bite the hand that feeds information you self say was nice?

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Hi Pixdeluxe,

 What I try to remember is there is no one way to make a living in stock. There are many paths to success that differ greatly but they can all lead to great financial reward. When we started the stock co-op www.BlendImages.com there were 23 of the top stock photographers in Macro as owners working together. One of the most interesting things I found was they were all very successful in their own stock endeavors but they all had completely different methods to their business models. More than one way to skin a cat. OHH! that's not the best Metaphor is it.

Cheers,
Jonathan


Thanks Jonathan, great insight! Can't agree more.

I would possibly point to the need for everybody to keep expanding and keep pushing themselves with what they produce. For some macro pros, micro may seem like a step back (especially in budget). However, i think for the thousands of amateurs (myself included) its really important that we continue to expand our styles and methods at every possible opportunity. Its most likely clich-ish but you really need to carve out a name for yourself and really need to stand apart.. I believe there is untapped potential for this in microstock, however discouraging it may be to see 1000s of images added to each agency every day.

All the best,

Josh

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General Stock Discussion / Re: The art of instructing models
« on: August 06, 2009, 03:51 »
thanks for the post, Laflor! Great tips..

I tend to agree with your method, tho it is your method, it is an interesting one. I think it imperative to be attuned to what works for you, what your default or method is, and be constantly looking at ways of expanding it. Not to take a step back and switch on autopilot but to really be fresh and ready and using your default method to really absorb the blows when things don't quite work for you..

All the best,

pixdeluxe

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Hi,

Great input, jonathan..

I've produced 2500 at anywhere between $4 (shot in studio one model) to $40 (shot on location with 5 models on a not so great day) per shot. In just under 4 months, my first shoot paid for itself on an istock exclusive account.. I was only able to go exclusive first in march 09, so the going was slow to start off with. Like Mr. Ross, i do pay for keywording, uploading & post production.

On average, (based on research as i've only been active 7-8 months now) images have a shelf-life of 18 months before they start to slow down with earnings.. however, I believe some images can sell for years without slowing down.

Would love to see some images Lisas4, maybe PM a link sometime.

All the best,
Josh

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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 29, 2009, 02:42 »

The prices are not that higher for exclusive so I still don't see the reason. About Getty sales I have no idea at the moment because I only opted in today sooo I'm only guessing that you sell now around 500 files per month and I'm sure your files would sale like crazy on SS. I don't do so much stock and I would not upload at more then 4 agencies and only slowly at other 4 agencies so that's not that hard to do or keep track off. If I would be exclusive (so higher prices and all) even with double sales then before I would still be in disadvantage as exclusive by a lot.


Maybe PM me a port link, if you'd like some direct advice..

SS has a very short half-time (like a radioactive element that degrades quickly). SS is a quick fix, and quickly files are lost in a swirling vortex.. IS has a much much longer half time so there is more bang for buck over a longer period of time.

Thanks for the interesting discussion.

PS. my downloads (a forum is not the place to start talking about this) are much higher.. i don't know what istock does but sales for exclusives, there is a certain x factor there. another x factor is the vetta collection, my earnings per image has doubled in a month.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 28, 2009, 14:49 »
I started uploading in January, with maxing out upload limits @ IS. Today i have 950 approved online, with a total collection produced since jan., of 2500. Anything at all is possible, set your sights high.

January 2008 that is. Right? That is not 6 moths but still; your story is really impressive. CONGRATS  ! The Q of this post was also nice :)
Really good work btw. I'd like to be able to do nothing but stock ;) one day.

Now if I'm thinking abut your exclusivity and if that it's really a good move.
After an estimate regarding your earnings you could do a lot more then that if you would not be exclusive, especially looking at what kind of images you have.
Why did you go that way ? Or am i missing something here about the advantages of being exclusive with IS?


The difference is subjective to who you are, what you shoot and how you shoot it. For me, istock exclusive was more advantageous because when you can max out uploads every week and maitain an acceptance rate of at least 90% the numbers are better than non-exclusive. Logistically, spreading your port across 8-15 agencies is a nightmare and difficult to track performance and fluctuations. Also, depending on where you are as a photographer/producer, you may not want to spend all your time retouching or keywording. Hire people to do this, if the images are good this more than pays itself back, and gives you more flexibility to focus on producing great images.

iStock has done an excellent job and their moves since Getty took over have been great. The vetta collection is showing promising signs as well..

With respect to anybody starting off with submissions, istock can be a bit of a steep learning curve and sales are not friendly to new users, at least in the start... in could take too long to even obtain the 250 downloads needed to become exclusive.

Everybody has their own methods and reasons.. Yuri does maintain that non-exclusive is the better solution, and he's reached that conclusion on everything he knows and based on his own performance, so its more than probably the right path for him.

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Nick Onken is a great photographer, and shoots lifestyle imagery better than most. Branding is one thing we could all learn from him..

Like always, asking the right questions, Lee ;)
I guess branding would be great if you were going to start producing more consistently, and really focus on a few niches. For people (clients mostly and site admins too) to notice your new efforts, branding images would be a great way of getting some images in front of people. I started producing seriously in Jan./Feb., though not too many people have really noticed and it is a slow process.. Thankfully, once you've obtained a level of branding and attention from clients, its less work to maintain that.

The first 'Hot Pick' gave only a gradual increase in overall sales. Interestingly, the second 'Hot Pick' from iStock gave immediate results across my whole portfolio.


The blue is the week before the Hot Pick and the green represents the increase, which was overall 28% for the first 4 days of that week.

A 28% increase is not to be sneezed at by anyone. Although I only average about 100 downloads per day at the moment, this kind of movement is still encouraging.

An important point is not to monitor your 'branding' images for an accurate indication of sales, watch your entire portfolio. A 'branding' image is how it sound, a brand or a logo for your whole portfolio, which attracts a client to look further.

'Branding shots' and 'boring shots' are different. 'Branding shots' aren't aimed to make money, like the most of images promoted by istock, will never earn a flame. 'Boring shots' are shots that are practical and have an everyday use and universal appeal.

Yuri is definitely aware of the 'branding' concept, i think mostly as a result of him constantly pushing his style and method of shooting and marketing his images.

Fwiw, I don't like the term 'branding' it sounds like what a team of creatives uses to describe fluffy idea that nobody gets. However, as we all continue to push ourselves and expand our creative horizons, the concept does materialize of itself, without a team of creatives bouncing the phrase around a boardroom.


And Lee, next time you talk to Nike, tell them I would l.o.v.e. to have them on board with a sponsorship!

Thanks too, Jonathan! I am stoked, I hope that i can keep riding it..

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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 22, 2009, 08:49 »
Now, i'm spamming. I should be developing.

But to further clarify my point, I'm borrowing a quote that Jonathan Ross linked to in a previous post.

Youve got to push yourself harder. Youve got to start looking for pictures nobody else could take. Youve got to take the tools you have and probe deeper. William Albert Allard

Read more: http://digital-photography-school.com/photography-quotes#ixzz0LzoLGQvv

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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 22, 2009, 08:45 »
Is it true you worked for Disney, in a former life? My first living memory is of seeing Snow White and the 7 Dwarves at the cinema. Anyways.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 22, 2009, 08:44 »
I started uploading in January, with maxing out upload limits @ IS. Today i have 950 approved online, with a total collection produced since jan., of 2500. Anything at all is possible, set your sights high.

Your profile says January of 2008.  I don't think you could get 950 online in six months starting from nothing.

Nice collection.

Thanks Mr. Locke. And, likewise, obviously. ...and true true. There were about 100-150 online in January 09, also allowing sooner exlusivity and further upload slots. But, otherwise, with some moderate initial sales and maximising upload slots, it is possible.


... And yet, you'll probably find you won't be able to sustain yourself selling micro on a high price budget.  Bit of a challenge, eh?

A challenge? yes, definitely. And, as you would be aware of, its a question of timing in regards to when you enter the market.. you brought something new to microstock when you entered several years ago and that is why you have been and will continue to be successful. I (and several other producers who entered before or after me) would like to be able to bring something to microstock today.. This is essential, becuase while you've already carved out your name, this is becoming an increasingly uphill struggle for anyone entering the market now.

It should be a challenge to sustain oneself, otherwise i'd be worried of not putting enough into it.




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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 22, 2009, 08:18 »
six month and how much cash?

1000s & 1000s. Although some shoots were organized with friends or non-agency affiliated models and cost almost nothing.. That way is possible, but probably not sustainable in the long run. Buyers will demand higher and higher production values, now and increasingly in the future..

cracking portfolio!

Thanks! I can't find yours..

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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 22, 2009, 06:57 »
I started uploading in January, with maxing out upload limits @ IS. Today i have 950 approved online, with a total collection produced since jan., of 2500. Anything at all is possible, set your sights high.

Congrats for getting an image in the Hot Shots istock news letter  :)


Thanks Freeze, imagine you and the penguins are regulars there.. ;)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: If you had six months...
« on: July 22, 2009, 06:31 »
I started uploading in January, with maxing out upload limits @ IS. Today i have 950 approved online, with a total collection produced since jan., of 2500. Anything at all is possible, set your sights high.

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Hey,

A brag first, i just noticed two images were picked as istock hotshots.

http://www.istockphoto.com/article_view.php?ID=602
http://www.istockphoto.com/article_view.php?ID=643

But, after my ego subsided to its hopefully normal size, i started thinking about branding images, images that you enjoy doing. Images that don't directly sell a million images. But, images that define what it is that you do, that does attract clients.

Read some of what nick onken is saying, especially about 'expanding your default'. Your default would be what you fall back on when you need to be shooting, what you know. Expanding this happens by trying new things, either successfully or not.
http://www.nickonkenconnection.com/shoptalk/branding_design/

Keep shooting!

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Great tips, Mr. Ross.

Am really enjoying your presence and input, you are an authority on these matters and i imagine there is a large number of microstock contributors very keen to hear from you.

All the best,

pixdeluxe

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General Photography Discussion / Re: Do you shoot tethered
« on: July 12, 2009, 13:06 »

Hey,

I recently tried out shooting tethered with a simple 5m Canon cable, direct into Capture1.

Overall, amount of shots from the day was down on what I was used to. Especially with the cable, which ended up being gaffa taped into the camera because it falls out regularly which can cause a problem if it recording images. Then, the camera or Capture one would freeze. I'd say the RAW count was down about 30-50% because of shooting tethered.

However, it does ensure sharp images, as I was able to check in real time, and even do a few quick edits/develops while the models were taking a break. If shooting on a very tight shoot plan, where ensuring quality over quantity, then this is probably a good option. My conversion rate of raws to select images was probably up 5-10%, thanks to the tethering. Its really a balancing act to get this to be useful tho.

Shooting with a USB cable is very cheap and easy to setup. You can also record RAWs straight to the hdd, or both CF and hdd, or even just send a jpg to the laptop/screen to check lighting, composition, etc. Displaying the images on a screen gives you the advantage of also allowing more people (stylists, art directors or photo assistants) to get a look at the images being produced, which is helpful if there are styling mistakes or other things that you might necessarily notice..



Hope thats useful!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock exlusivity increases sales?
« on: May 29, 2009, 04:19 »
Yes, amongst other factors, exclusivity definitely helps your sales.

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General Photography Discussion / Re: I'm in love.
« on: May 29, 2009, 04:17 »
ditto.

the intuos 4 is a deligtful tool. and, the best shortcut you will ever learn.

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Good point, however the closure of istock, in the long term wouldn't be any more beneficial for Getty, the company. I believe Getty realizes the potential in istock for opening up the market and tapping into the 99% of the internet thats not buying images. The price point makes it more accessible for everyday people to buy images..



Just quoting myself here..

And, more relevantly, read this quick statement this morning. http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Photography_buyers_more_choosy_as_credit_crunch_bites_news_283384.html

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but talking about profits ... Getty is in deep crap at the moment.
last i heard was they were making huge profits with iStock
and losing a lot with macros, shooting in their foot, but hey
they call this "strategy", we'll see.



Good point, however the closure of istock, in the long term wouldn't be any more beneficial for Getty, the company. I believe Getty realizes the potential in istock for opening up the market and tapping into the 99% of the internet thats not buying images. The price point makes it more accessible for everyday people to buy images..

I recently had a talk with a photog who is in the top 10 sellers in macrostock (how he knew his rank, i don't know). He was at a loss to know what to do with a few 1000 images that were 5-6 years old and were being released by the agency where they were being sold. Theres no easy advice, some of it was shot on film and would have a tough time getting thru QA, at any micros. Is that relevant to your situation? Perhaps researching and producing for micro is a better way of testing the waters..

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