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Buyers may argue that the subject matter is the same regardless of file size.

Yes, there could be a choice between a 4k and a HD version of the same footage. The content will be exactly the same. However, the 4k version will allow the buyer to crop the footage extensively and still end up with a decent amount of resolution. And I would say that places a higher value on the 4k version. Plus the 4k version will also have a potentially wider range of applications (eg usage in big screen movies.)

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A friend who frequently buys stock footage said it made no sense that agencies price HD and 4K clips differently.

It still makes sense to me (even for a buyer.) A buyer will also need to deal with increased storage costs when acquiring 4k footage - which justifies the higher price.

It's a similar kind of thing when buying an external hdd. A 2TB ext. hdd will typically cost more than a 1TB ext. hdd (from the same brand.)

Likewise, a chocolate bar that is 20% larger than another chocolate bar will usually command a higher price.

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But the fact that the buyer is bad at buying 4K means that the price for 4K is high for the buyer.

You may have noticed that many times, HD sales outperform 4k sales. Indeed, there are quite a few contributors who sell a lot more HD videos than 4k videos. I would say that this is an indicator of the lack of demand for 4k footage. It looks like a lot more clients need HD footage so they generally buy more of that. It makes perfect sense to price 4k video higher than HD because of the increased storage space and longer upload times. A 4k clip may seem expensive to you but it is considerably cheaper than hiring a videographer / cinematographer and sending them to some location for a shoot.

Video detail does not depend on the resolution, but on the video bitrate and bit depth. Read what bitrate is.

4k video generally has considerably higher bitrate than HD video.

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I suggest Adobe also make the price the same for HD and 4K video (for non-subscription sales).

I suggest they don't.

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What's with all these youtubers heavily promoting Shutterstock in their videos?

Who? Are these recent videos or old ones when things were more profitable?

I'm not noticing as many these days but some were still being produced and uploaded after SS made the commission changes.

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I had a 4k video sell for $5 about a year ago on AS. Would that have been a subscription sale for a HD version of the 4k clip? Or something else?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Fraud account on Shutterstock.
« on: February 06, 2024, 21:41 »


The thieves make money because they skim off better content. We all know that, as a general rule, 20% of the images make 80% of the money, but if they are selecting the best images, then they can certainly increase the sales percentage in their favour. It's always been quality over quantity, so if you steal 50 spectacular images, then they are likely to make more than a beginner with 50 snapshots of his back yard.



Valid points. I remember on the old SS forum, a thief was discovered and quite a few of us contributors were browsing through his port of stolen goods. The images selected were extremely high quality. Like the best of the best with all different kinds of subjects. It was quite a decent sized port too if I recall correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if this thief was making a ton of money.

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What's with all these youtubers heavily promoting Shutterstock in their videos? They make all sorts of crazy claims in their videos about making ridiculously high amounts of money in a relatively short space of time. And typically, no mention of the negative aspects like the 10c subs or the annual level resets. I guess they do it for the views. Then you'd get a flood of new contributors wondering why they're not making big dollars on SS. Many of these new contributors probably don't even know how to take a decent photograph or may not be knowledgeable about photography in general. 

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DepositPhotos / Re: Exciting News from Deposit Photos
« on: February 05, 2024, 22:05 »
Depositphotos may obtain special permission to distribute certain files under the Attributed Free License or another free license. By granting permission, the contributor waives the right to receive compensation for such distribution, which, with few exceptions, will not be credited to the contributor's level.

Yea so here's the thing with this one. I'm not sure if in this case, you can nominate particular files from your port for the 'free section.' Or could it be that by agreeing with the terms and conditions, you automatically give them permission to give away any of your files for free. Though they do say 'special permission' so perhaps it could be the former rather than the latter - hopefully. I'm not a contributor on DP but for those that are, perhaps there might be something visible that might appear on your dashboard maybe that would allow a contributor to select individual images for free use. If this is new, something like this might appear within the next few weeks (I could be wrong.) Of course if I joined up to DP myself, there is no way that I would give any of my photos away for free.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Another thief on Shutterstock
« on: February 05, 2024, 03:09 »
They gotta start caring about us creators if they want us to stick around.



Rolling out 10c subs and resetting levels annually were strong indicators that they don't care. Things can only get worse.

WRONG: See edits below

Rolling out 10c subs and resetting levels annually were strong indicators that they don't care. Things can will only get worse. :D ;D

Too true!


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Shutterstock.com / Re: Another thief on Shutterstock
« on: February 04, 2024, 04:03 »
They gotta start caring about us creators if they want us to stick around.

Rolling out 10c subs and resetting levels annually were strong indicators that they don't care. Things can only get worse.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Are they next?
« on: February 02, 2024, 22:37 »
Is DP still in the same state that was described in the opening post? Or have things improved? I'm not a contributor there but Ive been considering joining up for a while. It's just that some folks are talking me out of it.

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Adobe Stock / Re: I can't find my approved images on Adobestock
« on: January 30, 2024, 03:17 »
Ive no idea how to switch regions (or what region I'm currently set to) but I just did a test. I searched for three of my photos and I found them without any issues.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page, you'll find it at the left of the black bar.



Ah I see it on the contributor site but not the page that customers would search for stock imagery.

I just did another search for one of my photos and there is no sign of it. There is one page of search results and it is not there. This particular photo has sold once on AS. At first, I searched by 'relevance.' Then I searched by 'downloads.' No luck. By the way, this particular photo was taken in Spain and I am based in Australia.

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Adobe Stock / Re: I can't find my approved images on Adobestock
« on: January 29, 2024, 23:25 »
Ive no idea how to switch regions (or what region I'm currently set to) but I just did a test. I searched for three of my photos and I found them without any issues.

Edit: And then I searched for another of mine and found that one too on the first page (though only with the US spelling of the keyword 'vapor.') If I tried the English / Australian spelling (which is 'vapour') it didn't come up within the first few pages of results. I suppose I could keep searching with that version of the keyword but there's a lot of pages to get through.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Illustrative Editorial Requirements Question
« on: January 27, 2024, 07:28 »
designed to illustrate articles on current events and newsworthy topics

So it can be news related. Yes, it will be interesting to hear what Matt has to say.

By the way, I like the cow avatar, Pete.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Illustrative Editorial Requirements Question
« on: January 25, 2024, 21:35 »
I'm very interested in getting an answer for this one too. Since illustrative editorial is a form of editorial and can be used for news articles, I was under the assumption that image manipulation wasn't allowed. Though I could be completely wrong.

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I would only upload HD clips.

That's been my strategy on SS for a very long time - only submitting HD clips and sending 4k clips elsewhere. It's unbelievable that I may be forced to do the same thing with AS.

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Generally, subscriptions lead to extremely low amounts being paid to contributors. Not happy (especially with regards to 4k videos which normally command vey high prices.) Though I guess it wouldn't be as bad as SS who offer cents per video download.

Overall, the stock video situation continues to get worse across all agencies. I wish it was like the old days where every video sale meant big dollars.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: The Dreamstime levels system
« on: January 22, 2024, 02:01 »
Ah thanks for the clarification. So these higher levels only really matter in the rare circumstances when we get non subscription sales. In the early days of being a DT contributor, I was really getting my hopes up about my images reaching higher levels.

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Shutterstock used to pay us $0.38 minimum for subscription sale like Adobe Stock does.

Yes, once you got to a higher level. Level one for subs was $0.25c.

It took a few years of earning $0.25c subs on SS but finally, I accumulated $500 which brought me up to the next level. Unfortunately, the timing couldn't be worse. All I had was about two months to enjoy the new $0.33c subs and then SS changed their commissions structure. That felt like a kick in the guts. All that time waiting to progress to the next level and finally after you reach it, they pull the rug right from under you.

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Dreamstime.com / The Dreamstime levels system
« on: January 21, 2024, 18:54 »
When I first joined DT years ago and was reading through all the info, I thought I had a fair idea of how their levels system worked. If I recall correctly, each time a photo sells, it reaches a higher level and you end up being paid higher commissions (or higher amounts) each time. But that doesn't work in reality. My latest sale was for a photo that has sold at least four times before. And this photo usually earns me exactly the same amount each time - $0.33c (including this latest sale.) Obviously subscription sales. One time, this image did earn me $1.90 for one of the earlier sales (which surprisingly was also a subscription sale.)

So I'm wondering what is the point of this levels system at DT? No matter how many times a photo sells and what level it is, you usually don't get an increase in earnings. It will usually be the same or similar amount each time. 

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Why freeware?  You got to pay for good stuff.  It costs them to create those softwares/plugins that'll help you make money.  If it's free, it's POS crap.

There are some free software programs out there that offer quite a lot for photographers and video makers such as VirtualDub, Gimp and Shotcut. Additionally, most of the features of Davinci Resolve can be accessed and used for free.


You get what you paid for.

That's an interesting choice of words. With freeware, you get what you don't pay for!

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I would advise you to stay away.  They were doing OK a decade ago, but I have not been able to paid for several years now.  Alfonso owes me several hundred dollars.  I'm not optimistic.

Uh oh, that is not good at all. A big red flag there. I assume that you have your tax information up to date?

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other than the fact that RM buyers pay more for this "control"...
would i be correct to say that if i have images that are unique, (read as non generic), difficult to reproduce, hard to find, niche, stylistic,etc..
i would be wiser to go RM and forget about wasting my time in RF and micro.

That's the original impression that I got - that buyers generally pay more for RM images. However, Ive heard from a few contributors that there are many occasions where you get paid more for RF images. And that doesn't make much sense to me. I would have thought it was the opposite. If that is indeed true, then going RM doesn't seem as attractive.

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I take it you removed those photos from Canstock and Agefotostock should have done the same?

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