Funny idea... (maybe)

Even with the portfolio disabled, it is still possible to upload new images and they are reviewed/rejected (I tried).

So, what happens if we all make bad images, with a lot of noise, underexposed, etc. and each of us uploads 1000 or more?
Their inspector (or AI) will be very busy with... nothing

Okay, I need a rest� I know.

Bad idea. Pads their numbers. If you have free time get on social media and spread awareness instead.

Pull out completely from the Facebook platform and move to a self-hosted platform like forum on your own website.
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how many visitors come to YOUR website every day?

I think, we should notify the news agencies. Especially, the ones who use SS.

Pull out completely from the Facebook platform and move to a self-hosted platform like forum on your own website.

Companies arent going to search 2000 different websites, each with a tiny selection of media to find what they want.  They want everything, in one place, for one price.  Thats how stock works.

And if you want to make a big stock site the prices in hardware,hosting, software development, security, legal and so on are absolutely vast.  And when you've done that you still have a platform with less content than any of the competitors, no advertising and no market share.  Good luck with that.
Microstock works because of bulk.

I think, we should notify the news agencies. Especially, the ones who use SS.

Why would they care?  From their point of view, any change that allows them to get content as cheaply as possible is good.  They aren't concerned with the background politics of how its created.

A better idea is to not play games. Delete your images at SS and close your account.

Nice idea but at the moment a lot of people cant afford to ditch a few hundred/thousand dollars a month just to make a point as there's very little work or income elsewhere for photo or video related jobs!
And most people *already* have their work elsewhere as well.

So a choice of a greatly reduced but still some income vs guaranteed $0 income from SS isnt a choice some people can make currently.

SS know this as well - their timing was perfect.

Actually the choice here is harder, sell on Shutterstock were sales volume has been higher but while the buyer pays the same amount you get a smaller fraction. Or move entirely to Adobe, Pond5 etc, build up volume again but each sale gets you a larger share.

Pure maths says that 10c at shutterstock vs 0.36 at Adobe means that you'll break even with one third the volume share at adobe. This is much higher for vids with the new sales averages.

Moving (and shutting off SS) makes sense long term as people switch to platforms that have good content. However short term the temptation is to stay on with already created content and leech off more money from SS but harm long term.



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News agencies to do what? A new subscription if not using SS? lol!!

News agencies to do their job - post news.
First, it's a worldwide boycott, when greedy company rips off Third-World people during pandemic. Isn't it a good headline?
Second, the company where agencies buy photos is not reliable anymore. SS started to accept literally everything to compensate the decrease of the base. A lot of accounts opened with stolen images. The Disney/Pixar pics on sale is not a harmless accident. It may be a huge problem if you bought and used it before it was deleted.

Article on WaPo ripe for comments
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/01/pay-cut-economy-coronavirus/

Notify other media like ProPublica?

What other ideas should we start now?

Explain to people who are still uploading that they are very likely suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.

Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse.

With this syndrome, hostages or abuse victims may come to sympathize with their captives. This is the opposite of the fear, terror, and disdain that might be expected from the victims in these situations. Over the course of time, some victims do come to develop positive feelings toward their captors. They may even begin to feel as if they share common goals and causes. The victim may begin to develop negative feelings toward the police or authorities. They may resent anyone who may be trying to help them escape from the dangerous situation they�re in.

Many psychologists and medical professionals consider Stockholm syndrome a coping mechanism, or a way to help victims handle the trauma of a terrifying situation.

Quote from: Les on July 20, 2020, 22:13

Quote from: Rage on July 19, 2020, 00:45

What other ideas should we start now?

Explain to people who are still uploading that they are very likely suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.

ad hominem

do you always insult the intelligence of those you disagree with?

No, I didn't mean it as an insult and I wasn't arguing with anybody. I brought up a completely new point of looking at this situation.
Ad hominem post would consist of a directed attack against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
I didn't direct to any particular person, but rather to a position that uploading new images to SS makes an economic sense.

It was meant more as an explanation when the controlling party (in this case the SS) attempts the brainwash the captives (image contributors) that by staying loyal, working harder and keep uploading their images at reduced rates they can miraculously earn meaningful living. Simple arithmetic taking into consideration the expanded effort and projected income shows that this is not the case.

Quote from: Rage on July 19, 2020, 00:45

What other ideas should we start now?

Explain to people who are still uploading that they are very likely suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.

Quote

Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse.

With this syndrome, hostages or abuse victims may come to sympathize with their captives. This is the opposite of the fear, terror, and disdain that might be expected from the victims in these situations. Over the course of time, some victims do come to develop positive feelings toward their captors. They may even begin to feel as if they share common goals and causes. The victim may begin to develop negative feelings toward the police or authorities. They may resent anyone who may be trying to help them escape from the dangerous situation they�re in.

Many psychologists and medical professionals consider Stockholm syndrome a coping mechanism, or a way to help victims handle the trauma of a terrifying situation.

Absolutely, i think there are already a bunch of folks on twitter and facebook making that effort. Maybe it just needs a more persuasive argument

Does anyone know what has happened to the Shutterstock forum?  I can't post on it and I don't think anyone else can (just one fluke post yesterday on the Hummer Thread that got through but that's all in over 24 hours). It looks deliberate to me rather than a fault. New threads can't be started either.  The only thing that you can do if you manage to log in is to up/down vote comments already there.  Has Shutterstock suspended it due to negative comments?

see this thread https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/looks-like-ive-been-banned-from-the-ss-forms/msg555117/#msg555117