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« on: August 08, 2019, 07:14 »
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2019, 07:23 »
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Brasilnut

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2019, 07:24 »
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Well-spotted!

Same style of captions as the last mole with the images from Reuters.

I would post it on the SS thread but my account is blocked until tomorrow, am a one-month probation period where all my posts are moderated and have -4 points from my account!

« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2019, 07:37 »
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Well-spotted!

Same style of captions as the last mole with the images from Reuters.

I would post it on the SS thread but my account is blocked until tomorrow, am a one-month probation period where all my posts are moderated and have -4 points from my account!

Sorry to hear that  :(

« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2019, 08:41 »
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2019, 08:54 »
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2019, 09:14 »
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And he shot the wedding of Kit Harrington and Rose Leslie too

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portsoyscotland07212019-photo-person-wearing-traditional-scottish-1464917714

https://news.sky.com/story/game-of-thrones-stars-kit-harington-and-rose-leslie-marry-at-family-castle-11414151

And this person somehow has product photos from a kid's toy manufacturer (thief has a New York location but it's a British company)

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/new-yorknew-yorkusa-08122019-child-play-1439360723?src=oqwEqyOXlyr00PkCeENGsA-3-96

https://letoyvan.com/collections/baby-toddler-puzzles

Not only a thief, but careless and ignorant - this "New York" photo is clearly shot in the UK (Trolley park, license plates)

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/new-yorknew-yorkusa-03122019-photo-parking-1438474277

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/dudley/2019/04/30/new-parking-rules-come-into-force-at-merry-hill/

I wrote to Shutterstock compliance with a pointer to the portfolio and this thread. I also told them they need to do better to keep customers' trust. This could so easily have been prevented if reviewing was taking its job seriously...

Now awaiting the email telling me how seriously they take infringement. For the moment I just have a "...working on it...high volume of messages . . .If you do not receive a response from us within 3 days, please email us back in direct response to this email..."

They wouldn't have such a high volume of email if reviewing was doing their job :)
« Last Edit: August 08, 2019, 14:27 by Jo Ann Snover »


« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2019, 09:36 »
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And he shot the wedding of Kit Harrington and Rose Leslie too

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portsoyscotland07212019-photo-person-wearing-traditional-scottish-1464917714

https://news.sky.com/story/game-of-thrones-stars-kit-harington-and-rose-leslie-marry-at-family-castle-11414151

And this person somehow has product photos from a kid's toy manufacturer (thief has a New York location but it's a British company)

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/new-yorknew-yorkusa-08122019-child-play-1439360723?src=oqwEqyOXlyr00PkCeENGsA-3-96

https://letoyvan.com/collections/baby-toddler-puzzles

Not only a thief, but careless and ignorant - this "New York" photo is clearly shot in the UK (Trolley park, license plates)

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/new-yorknew-yorkusa-03122019-photo-parking-1438474277

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/dudley/2019/04/30/new-parking-rules-come-into-force-at-merry-hill/

I wrote to Shutterstock compliance with a pointer to the portfolio and this thread. I also told them they need to do better to keep customers' trust. This could so easily have been prevented if reviewing was taking its job seriously...

Now awaiting the email telling me how seriously they take infringement. For the moment I just have a "...working on it...high volume of messages . . .If you do not receive a response from us within 3 days, please email us back in direct response to this email..."

They wouldn't have such a high volume of email if reviewing was doing their job :)

Haha, he has a lot of prestigious friends, (who won't sign releases)!

The 'men play golf' series also appears to be a who's who of the golfing world.

Thanks for reporting it Jo Ann.


« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2019, 10:07 »
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The moron has also uploaded a Getty image:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/londonengland-08182017-woman-holding-flowers-1435963694

https://www.gettyimages.in/detail/photo/senior-woman-holding-flower-pot-and-shovel-while-royalty-free-image/506155711

Where are Getty's crack legal team when we need them? :)


Maybe he's not so much of a moron, as his portfolio has been active long enough to get a payment?
« Last Edit: August 08, 2019, 10:12 by KuriousKat »

« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2019, 10:12 »
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Shutterstocks motto: a sale is a sale, no matter where it comes from!

Brasilnut

  • Author Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock & Blog

« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2019, 10:13 »
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Editorial images of obviously posed lifestyle shots are a dead-giveaway of a thieving account.

Microstock Man

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2019, 12:04 »
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2019, 13:25 »
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This one is great, "man plays golf" stolen from Getty and so on.

The captions are pretty identical to the marshall islands nuclear attack editorial guy.  Possibly the same image-theft farm (or the same person)?

Some high profile celebs with agents and high profile agencies stolen this time round.  Maybe some good, hard legal action might persuade SS to actually quality control and audit reviews.

Ive posted it on their forum so i suspect (i) to get banned and (ii) the thread to get deleted soon.

« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2019, 13:37 »
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the thread will be removed is we've learned  about SS modus operandi

and who knows how long before they shut down that port
if they do theres probably hundreds more just as bad that will keep on earning them money

by hook or by crook, i guess money is money

what a pathetic organization SS has become

ShadySue

« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2019, 13:38 »
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The moron has also uploaded a Getty image:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/londonengland-08182017-woman-holding-flowers-1435963694

https://www.gettyimages.in/detail/photo/senior-woman-holding-flower-pot-and-shovel-while-royalty-free-image/506155711

Where are Getty's crack legal team when we need them? :)
I've tweeted the account of the author of the image.
I heard nothing back from Getty the last time, other than the auto-receipt, so have no idea whether that was a worthwhile tactic.


« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2019, 13:53 »
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Just to give SS a change ive emailed them with details as well so they cant claim they're unaware.

Im fairly sure its the same people/group as the last one.
This one travels a lot like the other one.
The old one had done a pacific island (Marshalls), this one has done Iwa Jima.  Both have images from Tel Aviv.  Both have images from Kenya.

This guy has also been to Jordan though.


« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2019, 18:43 »
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I found another stolen photo where I could find a way to contact the original photographer (which I did), suggesting they contact Shutterstock compliance to complain

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portsoyscotland07212019-photo-person-wearing-traditional-scottish-1464917813

https://wwd.com/fashion-news/street-style/they-are-wearing-edinburgh-international-festival-fashion-10203377/

The portfolio is still there, and honestly, if they did actually take this seriously, it should at least be taken off line at this point. I realize that they may need to investigate to be sure they're not penalizing someone who has been wrongly accused, but with this many examples of stolen work, I think they're just not putting any effort into this...

And on the theme of "men with baldness" the thief has an Associated Press photo of Prince William :) He should have gone with the headline many of the newspapers did "No hair on the heir?" And the photo was taken in 2018 in London, not 2019 in Los Angeles

"Britain's Prince William arrives to visit the Evelina London Children's Hospital in London, Thursday Jan. 18, 2018, to celebrate the national rollout of the 'Step into Health' programme. "

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/los-angelescaliforniausa-05112019-men-baldness-1438183730

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11978795

Another Getty Image

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/los-angelescaliforniausa-05112019-men-baldness-1438183700

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/photo/man-working-in-modern-office-royalty-free-image/878980448
« Last Edit: August 08, 2019, 18:56 by Jo Ann Snover »

OM

« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2019, 19:20 »
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I thought it interesting that cpaulfell who first reported the thief math313 left it at that. I looked at their port (3200 pics) and found that hey had stolen 4 shots from an artist's duo based in London. Because the artists had recently been published in a national UK newspaper it was easy to find an email address and I mailed them pointing out the apparent 'inconsistency' with this guy at SS in Turkey claiming copyright of their work. I asked them to send DMCA notices (4X), gave 'em the link to Shutterstock infringement claims and they or their gallery people must have done so immediately because within 24 hours math313's port of 3200 images was gone completely.

This was the the tread that was taken down and for which Brasilnut had his forum account suspended. BTW thread is still there...they only deleted the link.

So, whether it was the number of DMCA notices or the fact that these guys were serious trouble, I dunno but SS shut down the entire account within 24 hours.

« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2019, 11:05 »
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The portfolio is still active this morning, but I found another person to write to - a Scottish blogger whose photo of a Mary Queen of Scots festival was included in this thief's portfolio

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portsoyscotland07212019-photo-person-wearing-traditional-scottish-1464917864

The original is from here (scroll down)

https://theweewhitedug.com/2017/09/04/mary-queen-of-scots-festival/

Perhaps more copyright owners bugging them will get this portfolio offline sooner...

« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2019, 11:08 »
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Possibly I whined too soon - I think the portfolio is now offline. Can anyone else follow any of the links?

Even if you can't follow the links, the large watermarked previews are still online (not sure for how long) and you can take the image links posted here and get to the previews.

You need to paste in location, with hyphens at word boundaries, and description to the following template (I had to put spaces at the beginning to avoid the forum trying to make this a hyperlink):

https: // image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo- (location information)-photo-of- (description of image with number) .jpg

So for the link I posted this morning to Sam Grant's blog:

https: // www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portsoyscotland07212019-photo-person-wearing-traditional-scottish-1464917864

https: // image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-portsoy-scotland-photo-of-person-wearing-traditional-scottish-clothing-1464917864.jpg

And for Jason Stratham showing baldness:

los-angelescaliforniausa-05112019-men-baldness-1438183688

https: // image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-los-angeles-california-usa-photo-of-men-baldness-1438183688.jpg

« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 11:49 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2019, 11:42 »
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Still see the Scots.

« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2019, 12:17 »
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A quick way to sort it out would be to inform Jack Nicholson's agent... I'd imagine that may yield a faster response from them ;D

ShadySue

« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2019, 12:31 »
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Possibly I whined too soon - I think the portfolio is now offline. Can anyone else follow any of the links?
They all seem to be still available from here, though as usual the links take me to the Spanish version of the site (!)

Added: but when I clicked on the contributor's 'name' on the Jack Nicolson file, I got a 404, which normally means the port is down.
But oddly, I cut and pasted the URI of the JN file into a totally clean browser, and still could see, and apparently buy, the file, but again clicking on the author name got a 404 error.

I then googled the author's 'name' and got a link to his port on SS, but that link was also a 404 error. (And although going via Google in the UK, I still got taken to a Spanish version of the site.)
« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 12:38 by ShadySue »

« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2019, 12:42 »
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I think its a caching issue. When I click on the link to the images I can still see them but, if I then click on the contributors name, I get the, "that was unexpected" message and no port.

« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2019, 02:25 »
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"that was unexpected"

Rather "uninspected" would fit better!?


Brasilnut

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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2019, 10:03 »
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Childish attitude by SS...


« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2019, 11:14 »
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Childish attitude by SS...

Looks like youre better off being a thief on SS rather than a helpful member of the community there

SS is really messed up on so many levels

dpimborough

« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2019, 03:37 »
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Childish attitude by SS...

So true ~ they can't handle the truth its a kindergarten attitude not at all worthy of a so-called professional company

« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2019, 14:52 »
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Heres another profile:-  https://www.shutterstock.com/g/patrick+littles

Its most likely the same group.  Travel a lot, all editorial, illiterate captions that have no relevance to the images.
So far images on there are stolen from Getty, Universal studios, a few glamour collections and even some from personal blogs and trip reports.

SS yet again pathetic in its lack of reviewing and verification.

Given how much Getty love to lawyer up you have to wonder how long it'll be for them to have large scale selling of their images by a competitor before they choose to act.

Brasilnut

  • Author Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock & Blog

« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2019, 15:34 »
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Heres another profile:-  https://www.shutterstock.com/g/patrick+littles

Its most likely the same group.  Travel a lot, all editorial, illiterate captions that have no relevance to the images.
So far images on there are stolen from Getty, Universal studios, a few glamour collections and even some from personal blogs and trip reports.

SS yet again pathetic in its lack of reviewing and verification.

Given how much Getty love to lawyer up you have to wonder how long it'll be for them to have large scale selling of their images by a competitor before they choose to act.

True wackamole style. New one pops up as soon as another gets wacked!

ShadySue

« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2019, 15:47 »
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Heres another profile:-  https://www.shutterstock.com/g/patrick+littles

Its most likely the same group.  Travel a lot, all editorial, illiterate captions that have no relevance to the images.
So far images on there are stolen from Getty, Universal studios, a few glamour collections and even some from personal blogs and trip reports.

SS yet again pathetic in its lack of reviewing and verification.

Given how much Getty love to lawyer up you have to wonder how long it'll be for them to have large scale selling of their images by a competitor before they choose to act.

I've emailled the author of the Mardi Gras images, or at least one that I checked. He's a Reuters 'tog.
And a Getty tog who took one of the others.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2019, 16:01 by ShadySue »

« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2019, 15:50 »
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True wackamole style. New one pops up as soon as another gets wacked!

...and promptly passes quality control review and images go live.  THAT to me is the most frustrating part.  Its not the thieves themselves, its the system that SS has created that allows them to get these large scale stolen images on sale in the first place.

« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2019, 16:21 »
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2019, 10:21 »
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The portfolio is still there, so I replied to the "we're working on it" email with two examples of Getty images work the thief has claimed were his - along with a suggestion they need to look more closely at initial uploads of new contributors to stop this crazy behavior.


A Boston Dynamics robot that is by LAURA CHIESA/PACIFIC PRESS/GETTY IMAGES and first appeared in October 2018, and was not shot in June 2019 as claimed by the thief

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/new-yorknew-york06082019-photo-capable-robot-1467273704

https://www.wired.com/story/boston-dynamics-is-prepping-its-robot-dog-to-get-a-job/

And this is from Getty Images from 2017, shot in Tokyo, not shot in New York in 2019 as the thief claims

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/new-yorknew-york06082019-photo-capable-robot-1467273707

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/softbank-group-corp-chief-executive-officer-masayoshi-son-news-photo/819235032?


Edited to add that the port is still up on Tuesday afternoon, so I wrote to the blogger, Lauren, with the Christmas image suggesting she contact Shutterstock compliance directly. That seemed to work well with the other blogger I contacted...
« Last Edit: August 13, 2019, 16:52 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2019, 10:59 »
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Would be fun to get Getty involved as theyre losing sales to shutterstock because of that. It might speed up the process if lawsuits are involved.


« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2019, 18:47 »
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Wednesday afternoon I'm getting a 404 error on these pages, so it appears SS has taken the thief's work down. Finally.

If I were a betting person, I'd take odds on how long before a contributor spots another of these portfolios - but at least there are two down...

Brasilnut

  • Author Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock & Blog

« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2019, 06:41 »
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Wednesday afternoon I'm getting a 404 error on these pages, so it appears SS has taken the thief's work down. Finally.

If I were a betting person, I'd take odds on how long before a contributor spots another of these portfolios - but at least there are two down...

To be fair, they do wack these accounts eventually, but what troubles me is that there's no system in place them being accepted in the first place. I know it's RF and non-exclusive which makes it more difficult but the current system isn't working. 

« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2019, 09:09 »
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...what troubles me is that there's no system in place them being accepted in the first place. I know it's RF and non-exclusive which makes it more difficult but the current system isn't working.

I don't think it's difficult at all. It just requires more careful (and largely automatic) monitoring of the uploads of new accounts. Probably just monitoring the first 100 uploads would do it - at least it would weed out the vast majority of the professional thieves. I included that suggestion in my emails to compliance

You would have to have been purposefully asleep at the wheel to allow what's been going on to occur.

« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2019, 10:23 »
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Reading comments i cannot justify the "kindergarten" attitude.
Everything is monitored and issues immediately dissolved in kindergartens i think.

It is more like big shopping mall parking where security people walk around
but also signs "not responsible for damages, secure your goods' do exist.

Brasilnut

  • Author Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock & Blog

« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2019, 13:58 »
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Thread on thieves taken down and comment wasn't even accepted. Predictable.

« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2019, 13:37 »
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The portfolio is still there, so I replied to the "we're working on it" email with two examples of Getty images work the thief has claimed were his - along with a suggestion they need to look more closely at initial uploads of new contributors to stop this crazy behavior.
...

As noted above, the portfolio did come down, but today, a week and a half later, I received snotty email from Shutterstock compliance saying that they (1) had taken down the images; (2) rely on the integrity of their contributors not to infringe others' copyright; (3) were a "service provider" (their quotes) and would respond to proper DMCA take down notices;

(4) "Though your correspondence did not adhere to the strict statutory requirements of the DMCA, we elected to treat it as a proper notice and expeditiously removed the image(s) in question."

Very big of them to do me a favor that way...

This is a pathetic, butt-covering piece of corporate word barf apparently disavowing any and all responsibility for vetting their uploads and leaving it to copyright holders to submit streams of DMCA notices when thieves have uploaded their content to Shutterstock.

Tossers!

« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2019, 15:07 »
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The portfolio is still there, so I replied to the "we're working on it" email with two examples of Getty images work the thief has claimed were his - along with a suggestion they need to look more closely at initial uploads of new contributors to stop this crazy behavior.
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As noted above, the portfolio did come down, but today, a week and a half later, I received snotty email from Shutterstock compliance saying that they (1) had taken down the images; (2) rely on the integrity of their contributors not to infringe others' copyright; (3) were a "service provider" (their quotes) and would respond to proper DMCA take down notices;

(4) "Though your correspondence did not adhere to the strict statutory requirements of the DMCA, we elected to treat it as a proper notice and expeditiously removed the image(s) in question."

Very big of them to do me a favor that way...

This is a pathetic, butt-covering piece of corporate word barf apparently disavowing any and all responsibility for vetting their uploads and leaving it to copyright holders to submit streams of DMCA notices when thieves have uploaded their content to Shutterstock.

Tossers!


Pffft.....can it get any worse at Shitterstock?


 

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