Murdered Shutterstock Forum Refugee Thread

[Suspect]

I'm pitching my tent here where they can't get me.

 

[marthamarks]

I'm pitching my tent here where they can't get me.

 

LOL! 

Welcome.

[For Real]

I'm pitching my tent here where they can't get me.

 

Oh, they track this site as well lol!

[Jo Ann Snover]

I misread the title at first - I thought you'd been "murdered" (banned) in the Shutterstock forums

[Suspect]

I misread the title at first - I thought you'd been "murdered" (banned) in the Shutterstock forums

Well, the dissenters will be silenced in one fell swoop ad infinitum On Oct 14th (nice of them to give us a date). No bans required.
Best solution possible for Shutterstock.

[thijsdegraaf]

If you read this announcement from AnnaShutterstock it will become clear. https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/124108-sunsetting-the-forum-when-one-door-shuts-another-one-opens/
How can you say with nice words that you don't care about the forum anymore, it is only difficult with the criticism, costs money

[marthamarks]

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/124108-sunsetting-the-forum-when-one-door-shuts-another-one-opens/

Good riddance.

AnnaShutterstock reminds me of the worthless Lobo on the old iStock forum before I bailed out there in 2011.

[Mantis]

Good riddance to one of the most spiteful agencies out there.  I hope they just just fold.

[marthamarks]

Good riddance to one of the most spiteful agencies out there.  I hope they just just fold.

Odds are verrrry good you ain't the only one hopin' that.

[Suspect]

I'm pitching my tent here where they can't get me.

 

LOL! 

Welcome.

Thank you.  It's nice to be talking somewhere where you're not likely to be told off like a naughty school child if you criticise.
Thank you too whoever first created this forum.  Great idea to be independent.

[marthamarks]

I'm pitching my tent here where they can't get me.

 

LOL! 

Welcome.

Thank you.  It's nice to be talking somewhere where you're not likely to be told off like a naughty school child if you criticise.

Oh, there are plenty here who will jump down your throat if you say something they disapprove of.  But still� you're free to say it and also relatively safe from reprisal.

Thank you too whoever first created this forum.  Great idea to be independent.

We owe it all to our fearless leader, Leaf.

[Firn]

Thank you.  It's nice to be talking somewhere where you're not likely to be told off like a naughty school child if you criticise.
Thank you too whoever first created this forum.  Great idea to be independent.

Just wait for it. If you critisize Shuttertock while being a contributor, eventually you will have some people on your throat blaming you for the downfall of the industry, because you have not left SS.
No place is without its downsides. But at least you won't get banned here for speaking against any agency.

[Dodie]

Thank you.  It's nice to be talking somewhere where you're not likely to be told off like a naughty school child if you criticise.
Thank you too whoever first created this forum.  Great idea to be independent.

Well said above: wait for it! Besides those who can't stand being contradicted, there are the yeasayers who drive you crazy with their constant flattery.

[Hannafate]

Typical corporate behavior.  They don't see any profit in the forum.

[gnirtS]

Typical corporate behavior.  They don't see any profit in the forum.

Its more the opposite - they likely view the forum as harming profit as contributors can openly discuss and criticise SS policies such as pay cuts, dodgy reviews, stolen profiles and so on.
They're most likely worried discussion like that would hurt the corporate image they seek to project.  Im just amazed it didnt go sooner.

[For Real]

Someday there will be company run by us (the artist) where the commission is 70%  plus for the us and our voices are heard and changes are made to benefit us. Someday...

[gnirtS]

Someday there will be company run by us (the artist) where the commission is 70%  plus for the us and our voices are heard and changes are made to benefit us. Someday...

I think that was around 2005....

[Jaggy]

Hardly anyone uses the SS forum. It's the same few posters all the time so I can understand why SS doesn't want to spend money on it. If SS was upset by criticism they would have closed it down long ago.

Anyway, we always have this forum to fall back on. Maybe the demise of the SS one will breathe some life into this.

[thijsdegraaf]

Someday there will be company run by us (the artist) where the commission is 70%  plus for the us and our voices are heard and changes are made to benefit us. Someday...

We talked about that with the pay cut last year. But then you have to compete against Istock, Shutterstck, sites with free photos, etc.
Only the very good professionals can do without stock sites and sell through their own site.

[cobalt]

Typical corporate behavior.  They don't see any profit in the forum.

Amateur behavior, not corporate.

The suppliers are also designers and buyers, if you piss us off you piss of the buying community.

Adobe understands that relationship very well and just look at how successful they are.

Shutterstock took on a new CEO with zero history in the media business.

What works for restaurants or food is not the same as for a media house.

[Firn]

Someday there will be company run by us (the artist) where the commission is 70%  plus for the us and our voices are heard and changes are made to benefit us. Someday...

We talked about that with the pay cut last year. But then you have to compete against Istock, Shutterstck, sites with free photos, etc.
Only the very good professionals can do without stock sites and sell through their own site.

Of course an agency that has higher prices than all the other agencies will have a hard time competing with them and being sucessfull, but the idea was not to make prices higher, but commissions - so instead of, for example, a 10% 0.10$ commission the artist would get a 70% 0.70$ commission, which would make quite the difference already at low sub sales, but of course even more with extended licences.

Btw - I think Stocksy is kind of an agency like this, isn't it? I am not exactly sure about the details, as apparently I am not good enough for them, but I've heard they are basically artist-run and pay very high commissions compared to other agencies?

[RalfLiebhold]

After passing the intelligence test for registration and my first posting  , I am joining the Shutter- refugees here.

[thijsdegraaf]

Someday there will be company run by us (the artist) where the commission is 70%  plus for the us and our voices are heard and changes are made to benefit us. Someday...

We talked about that with the pay cut last year. But then you have to compete against Istock, Shutterstck, sites with free photos, etc.
Only the very good professionals can do without stock sites and sell through their own site.

Of course an agency that has higher prices than all the other agencies will have a hard time competing with them and being sucessfull, but the idea was not to make prices higher, but commissions - so instead of, for example, a 10% 0.10$ commission the artist would get a 70% 0.70$ commission, which would make quite the difference already at low sub sales, but of course even more with extended licences.

Btw - I think Stocksy is kind of an agency like this, isn't it? I am not exactly sure about the details, as apparently I am not good enough for them, but I've heard they are basically artist-run and pay very high commissions compared to other agencies?

I know too little about that Firn. I think, as I wrote, it is possible for very professional illustrators, photographers.
But I'm not good enough for that either. And to compete with all those stock sites with a huge, still increasing amount of photos, illustrations, with regular customers seems difficult to me. There is only a chance if they also chase the customers away through their behavior.
If it works, the site will be sold, new top people will come and the misery will start again. 
We had a little bit (luckily) invested in teak trees. They started full of good plans, environmentally friendly, attention, work for the local residents. That went well in the beginning, then a new leadership came in, we were called whether we wanted to put more money into it, and we received beautiful brochures. In the end it went bankrupt. Some probably made a lot of money from it. But it wasn't us.
That's what comes to mind when I read Shutterstock's sweet talk.