I'am totally discouraged, I can't upload vector at all. Big artboard error, smaller artboard ...errror. How I know if my work on illustrator is 4M ? This is stupid from shutterstock.

Quote from: Julied83 on May 24, 2019, 14:27
I'am totally discouraged, I can't upload vector at all. Big artboard error, smaller artboard ...errror. How I know if my work on illustrator is 4M ? This is stupid from shutterstock.

So don't upload...
Don't make them a favor they don't deserve!

I have stop uploading since the 4MP rule. Is just too much work and waste too much HDD space. This abnormally large vector will also ruin my portfolio forever. This is even worst for icon designers. I hope Shutterstock will reverse the decision for this as soon as possible

What I don't understand is that I see people in this thread who a) continue trying to upload to Shutterstock, thereby facilitating their new policy and making it harder for other contribubors to make a stance, and b) without even a basic understanding of the difference between MB and MP.

No wonder SS thinks they can get away with it.

Contributors, "We are not animals".
Shutterstock, "We know you're not animals. You're our Pets".

New petition. https://www.change.org/p/shutterstock-cancel-the-limitation-of-eps-files-to-4-megapixels-on-shutterstock?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_14761192_en-US%3Av7&recruiter=48561171&recruited_by_id=92027de0-8f58-0130-f5b6-00221964dac8&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_message

I uploaded a vector for the first time they made the change and it's a disappointment.

I can adapt to the new size. No problem. What's disappointing is that they take the size of the artwork instead of the artboard size. This cause a lot problems.

I leave some padding on my artwork since most of them DON'T have backgrounds. I want them to be centered and surrounded by white space. When Shutterstock render the JPG from my EPS file, the rendered JPG has no padding. It looks like a mistake and when people search for my work, it goes from edge to edge and it really messes up my presentation.

I don't know what they're thinking. The tech is clearly not ready for prime-time. They need to change it so that it renders a JPG from the size of the Artboard instead of the size of the artwork.

Quote from: Minsc on May 28, 2019, 06:14
I uploaded a vector for the first time they made the change and it's a disappointment.

I can adapt to the new size. No problem. What's disappointing is that they take the size of the artwork instead of the artboard size. This cause a lot problems.

I leave some padding on my artwork since most of them DON'T have backgrounds. I want them to be centered and surrounded by white space. When Shutterstock render the JPG from my EPS file, the rendered JPG has no padding. It looks like a mistake and when people search for my work, it goes from edge to edge and it really messes up my presentation.

I don't know what they're thinking. The tech is clearly not ready for prime-time. They need to change it so that it renders a JPG from the size of the Artboard instead of the size of the artwork.

Never even thought of this, good point.

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on May 28, 2019, 09:12

Quote from: Minsc on May 28, 2019, 06:14
I uploaded a vector for the first time they made the change and it's a disappointment.

I can adapt to the new size. No problem. What's disappointing is that they take the size of the artwork instead of the artboard size. This cause a lot problems.

I leave some padding on my artwork since most of them DON'T have backgrounds. I want them to be centered and surrounded by white space. When Shutterstock render the JPG from my EPS file, the rendered JPG has no padding. It looks like a mistake and when people search for my work, it goes from edge to edge and it really messes up my presentation.

I don't know what they're thinking. The tech is clearly not ready for prime-time. They need to change it so that it renders a JPG from the size of the Artboard instead of the size of the artwork.

Never even thought of this, good point.

Just put a white rectangle layer at the background with the same size ot the artboard...

Quote from: Minsc on May 28, 2019, 06:14
I uploaded a vector for the first time they made the change and it's a disappointment.

I can adapt to the new size. No problem. What's disappointing is that they take the size of the artwork instead of the artboard size. This cause a lot problems.

I leave some padding on my artwork since most of them DON'T have backgrounds. I want them to be centered and surrounded by white space. When Shutterstock render the JPG from my EPS file, the rendered JPG has no padding. It looks like a mistake and when people search for my work, it goes from edge to edge and it really messes up my presentation.

I don't know what they're thinking. The tech is clearly not ready for prime-time. They need to change it so that it renders a JPG from the size of the Artboard instead of the size of the artwork.

According to their new uploading article, you now have to check the Use Artboards box when saving your EPS. Then it takes your artboard into account when it renders the preview. I haven't tried it, I refuse to upload until this is resolved.

Quote from: vectorsforall on May 28, 2019, 09:42
Just put a white rectangle layer at the background with the same size ot the artboard...

Yeah I can do that, but that's destroying the integrity of the artwork. That's also just more work for me.

Quote from: Noedelhap on May 28, 2019, 10:28
According to their new uploading article, you now have to check the Use Artboards box when saving your EPS. Then it takes your artboard into account when it renders the preview. I haven't tried it, I refuse to upload until this is resolved.

Are you referring to this article?

https://www.shutterstock.com/contributorsupport/articles/en_US/kbat02/000006575

I can't find the option to "Use Artboard" when trying to save an EPS file. Where do I find it?

Quote from: Minsc on May 28, 2019, 20:51

Are you referring to this article?

https://www.shutterstock.com/contributorsupport/articles/en_US/kbat02/000006575

I can't find the option to "Use Artboard" when trying to save an EPS file. Where do I find it?

No, it's this article. Click the link and scroll down, you will see the pic of the option.

Quote from: flywing on May 19, 2019, 18:48

https://www.shutterstock.com/contributorsupport/articles/en_US/kbat02/Best-Practice-Recommendations-for-Saving-EPS-Files

Saving an EPS file with "Use Artborads" option

"When you save your EPS file with this setting, your bounding box will include the artboard, and if the artwork is smaller than your artboard, the resulting JPEG preview will contain the white space around the artwork. Please keep in mind, if you choose this option, your artboard will need to be at least 4 MP."

I haven't uploaded for a while and I thought that this 4MP size issue had been quietly abandoned, but it seems not.

I have just tried to upload a complex illustration and basically its not possible to make it work with there requirements.

It is completely bonkers, whoever made this decision to change to this specification needs to be sacked, they were given fair warning, in the Shutterstock Forum last time with hundreds of disgruntailed contributors.

The latest post has hundreds of the same again, talk about not listening.

It looks like if they continue with this policy that Adobe are going to clean up with the serious illustrators/designers.

If you look at the M-rank, then you learn the majority continues to upload vectors on Shutterstock under the new conditions. In that case, Shutterstock wouldn't change anything. And I for some reason decided that the majority ceased to upload vectors. But you can look at M-rank to see number of vectors uploaded last week for any contributor. So the battle is lost.

Haven't posted here for a long time..

I just wanted to come here to say that "I am also suspending my uploads to shutterstock"

This is beyond ridiculous

The big image factories will just adjust their workflow and keep uplaoding. It's the individual conributors who'll be squeezed out. Maybe they want it that way.

Quote from: Shelma1 on May 31, 2019, 16:07
The big image factories will just adjust their workflow and keep uplaoding. It's the individual conributors who'll be squeezed out. Maybe they want it that way.

Can they though? Keywording seems like half the job sometimes. I can't say I've sat down and tried to work on a good workflow for tagging eps files, but it seems like the options are limited.

Quote from: cthoman on May 31, 2019, 20:02

Quote from: Shelma1 on May 31, 2019, 16:07
The big image factories will just adjust their workflow and keep uplaoding. It's the individual conributors who'll be squeezed out. Maybe they want it that way.

Can they though? Keywording seems like half the job sometimes. I can't say I've sat down and tried to work on a good workflow for tagging eps files, but it seems like the options are limited.

If you're a business with a number of employees, you'll find a way to make it work...otherwise you have to fire everyone and go out of business. Earnings from other sites wouldn't make up the loss. I think SS has instructions about adding keywords to eps files.

it is the artwork not artboard...that must have the 4megapixels

Quote from: Shelma1 on May 31, 2019, 16:07
The big image factories will just adjust their workflow and keep uplaoding. It's the individual conributors who'll be squeezed out. Maybe they want it that way.

Its probably the image factories who suggested/demanded this change from Shutterstock to achieve exactly that and get rid of the competition

I have also stop uploading for the time. Just wait and see what will happen in the next couple of months and hope SS will revert back to the original method.

I am beginning to believe that this maybe a deliberate policy to restrict the number of EPS uploads to Shutterstock, maybe they are not interested in anything but photography.

It is a change that really is so out of the ball park and utterly nonsensical, that maybe the owner and his team have taken what they think is a strategic decision to do away with Vector Illustrations and this is just the first phase in stopping illustrators from uploading.

If you look on the Shutterstock Forum there is no one answering any of the questions.

Quote from: H2O on June 03, 2019, 15:04
I am beginning to believe that this maybe a deliberate policy to restrict the number of EPS uploads to Shutterstock, maybe they are not interested in anything but photography.

It is a change that really is so out of the ball park and utterly nonsensical, that maybe the owner and his team have taken what they think is a strategic decision to do away with Vector Illustrations and this is just the first phase in stopping illustrators from uploading.

If you look on the Shutterstock Forum there is no one answering any of the questions.

I doubt it. I think these companies love making money off of illustrations/vectors, but they often know nothing about it and spend very little time thinking or learning about it. My guess is just ignorance.

Quote from: H2O on June 03, 2019, 15:04
I am beginning to believe that this maybe a deliberate policy to restrict the number of EPS uploads to Shutterstock, maybe they are not interested in anything but photography.

It is a change that really is so out of the ball park and utterly nonsensical, that maybe the owner and his team have taken what they think is a strategic decision to do away with Vector Illustrations and this is just the first phase in stopping illustrators from uploading.

If you look on the Shutterstock Forum there is no one answering any of the questions.

Wait... their next step will be to accept only photos over 50 megapixels

Quote from: H2O on June 03, 2019, 15:04
I am beginning to believe that this maybe a deliberate policy to restrict the number of EPS uploads to Shutterstock, maybe they are not interested in anything but photography.

It is a change that really is so out of the ball park and utterly nonsensical, that maybe the owner and his team have taken what they think is a strategic decision to do away with Vector Illustrations and this is just the first phase in stopping illustrators from uploading.

If you look on the Shutterstock Forum there is no one answering any of the questions.

Maybe they want to reduce the numer of vector uploads, true; but not to eradicate it, no reason to lose part of the cake.

Today the total numer of images uploaded to SS per week is: 1,366,429; i remember to see this numer above 2.000.000 before the 4MP rule...

............ Mrblues101

..........

If to me, they take me more than normal, in examining, reviewing my images, to the rest of the users exactly the same. The percentage of photographs in relation to vectors is not that different. When they do not reach almost two million per week, it is because they have fewer examiners, reviewers working on the content review of contributors.

If they check me fast, that week the total numbers of the week are triggered, if they take a little longer they lower the numbers, if they rub the too much time in examining, the weekly figures go down in general. It is, my observation.