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« Reply #100 on: April 23, 2025, 11:12 »
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I hope that those buyers who want to buy my videos without an unlimited subscription will be able to do so.
Because I have the impression that the buyer will think that my video can only be bought with an unlimited subscription. At least that's what the product page with my video looks like.


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #101 on: April 23, 2025, 12:16 »
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Wondering if anybody who is in for this model would like to share the earnings or they are available only by the end of the month?

According to the email it doesnt go live until next month but looks like they lied about that.
Given the revenue share model they mentioned i dont see how they can do anything other than declare it monthly once they know how much it brought in during that period.  I can see an IS style 2 month lag while payments are calcuated.

Sounds about right. Revenue sharing, moving to an IS ESP format, we might see a download but won't know what we made, for a month.

Just another way to pay us less than they already do.

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« Reply #102 on: April 23, 2025, 16:01 »
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One thing I noticed since this whole IS / SS merger was announced: 

SS Reviews have become much closer to IS standard - basically anything goes in technical terms, but super anal in respect to what constitutes property.  Although I am still getting uploads reviewed within couple of days, while on IS I have content now waiting over a month. Perhaps IS is racing Adobe to see who is going to blink first

« Reply #103 on: April 23, 2025, 19:41 »
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To recap, for a buyer to see everyones content now they have to

(i) run a search
(ii) change from "Highlights" to "All images" (which isnt all images.  Its misleading)
(iii) Notice the "Filter applied: 1" box
(iv) click that box
(v) scroll down
(vi) select "All images" in the filter list

That simply isnt going to happen.

I just did a search for some of my files on the buyers site. No results found. However, a message came up saying that there may have been some filters affecting the search. All I had to do was a single action (one mouse click) to deactivate the filters and then my files appeared in the search results.
Yes, but if you do a new search then the filter is automatically reinstated (so you see unlimited only). For each search you have to disable that filter. At least it seems that way.

Oh, when I did multiple searches with different keywords, the filters remained deactivated. That was my experience last night.

« Reply #104 on: April 23, 2025, 20:03 »
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Regardless, buyers wont bother.  They'll see enough displayed without more hoops to jump through.  Most will just select the first hits on the first page as always.  They're not going to go out of their way.  Most wont even understand or know its been blocked to them.

Yea you're likely right. I won't be expecting much in the way of sales on SS from this point onwards. I only have a small video port on SS and sales are generally rare. I could imagine now that sales are going to be even rarer for me. Like super rare. I'm going to have to forget SS as a potential source of income. I had better concentrate more of my energy on the other agencies. SS is a dead weight that is sinking to the bottom of the ocean.

« Reply #105 on: April 24, 2025, 00:21 »
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This is certainly a significant shift for Shutterstock, and it would be naive to think it won't impact sales. Since search results now automatically display only the assets available for unlimited download, I believe contributors who do not participate in this new model will be the most affected.

While Im not happy with this change, I understand why they are making it; other agencies offering unlimited downloads must have gained a substantial market share.

« Reply #106 on: April 24, 2025, 05:11 »
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I opted out for unlimited downloads and my sales numbers are in the normal range, so from own experience I don't see a drop in the sale numbers.

« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2025, 05:22 »
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One thing I noticed since this whole IS / SS merger was announced: 

SS Reviews have become much closer to IS standard - basically anything goes in technical terms, but super anal in respect to what constitutes property.  Although I am still getting uploads reviewed within couple of days, while on IS I have content now waiting over a month. Perhaps IS is racing Adobe to see who is going to blink first

SS have been accepted anything, no matter how technically awful for a long time now.
The release thing might just be industry wide, AS have tightened up as well.

« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2025, 06:49 »
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The only reason that other agencies offering unlimited downloads must have gained a substantial market share is because there are both clients and, more importantly, creators who are willing to sell large volumes at very low prices. Naturally, this also opened the door for bad actors to constantly upload stolen content. But I believe the problem goes beyond that...

AI has created new dynamics. In my view, platforms like Sora and Runtime ML have already surpassed Midjourney in many aspects. Content production has not only become incredibly cheap but also overwhelmingly abundant. The microstock business model is undergoing a significant transformation contributors are increasingly selling fewer assets to actual end users through platforms like Shutterstock, Getty, or Adobe, and instead are indirectly feeding AI systems for shockingly low compensation.

In Europe, starting May 27th, Meta is preparing to use image, audio, and text data from Facebook, Instagram, and even WhatsApp group conversations to train its AI models. As you can imagine, the goal will eventually be to monetize this learning output by selling it to third parties.

So, its not just about competition in the unlimited download model among rival agencies it's also about the fierce race to access and dominate the emerging AI markets, where traditional pricing models are being completely undermined.

In this new era of AI-driven information, the new oil is content data and metadata for machine learning or attention, meaning eyeballs and audience engagement.

In my opinion, it makes more and more sense to move away from creating content for microstock platforms and instead focus on producing original content while building an audience on platforms like TikTok, YouTube, and others. The real value now lies in being paid through direct or indirect advertising, rather than relying on small sales through traditional microstock models.

« Reply #109 on: April 24, 2025, 10:05 »
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The only reason that other agencies offering unlimited downloads must have gained a substantial market share is because there are both clients and, more importantly, creators who are willing to sell large volumes at very low prices. Naturally, this also opened the door for bad actors to constantly upload stolen content. But I believe the problem goes beyond that...

AI has created new dynamics. In my view, platforms like Sora and Runtime ML have already surpassed Midjourney in many aspects. Content production has not only become incredibly cheap but also overwhelmingly abundant. The microstock business model is undergoing a significant transformation contributors are increasingly selling fewer assets to actual end users through platforms like Shutterstock, Getty, or Adobe, and instead are indirectly feeding AI systems for shockingly low compensation.

In Europe, starting May 27th, Meta is preparing to use image, audio, and text data from Facebook, Instagram, and even WhatsApp group conversations to train its AI models. As you can imagine, the goal will eventually be to monetize this learning output by selling it to third parties.

So, its not just about competition in the unlimited download model among rival agencies it's also about the fierce race to access and dominate the emerging AI markets, where traditional pricing models are being completely undermined.

In this new era of AI-driven information, the new oil is content data and metadata for machine learning or attention, meaning eyeballs and audience engagement.

In my opinion, it makes more and more sense to move away from creating content for microstock platforms and instead focus on producing original content while building an audience on platforms like TikTok, YouTube, and others. The real value now lies in being paid through direct or indirect advertising, rather than relying on small sales through traditional microstock models.
It has already been written here on the forum that not all buyers need artificial content created with the help of AI. Moreover, AI creates video content very poorly and very powerful PC resources are needed to then make this content at least in HD resolution, I am not even talking about 4K. No, everything is simple in fact. The unlimited subscription model is popular among many people, and these people will bring much more money than classic buyers.

« Reply #110 on: April 24, 2025, 10:07 »
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As for filming for YouTube, not all authors want to do this, not everyone can attract viewers with their face. Stockers and authors on YouTube are usually completely different people in character.

« Reply #111 on: April 24, 2025, 18:42 »
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The automatic unlimited only filter on SS is likely a temporary promotion for their new offering.

I expect them to eventually remove this feature. In the meantime, depending on the type of content in their portfolios, it may negatively impact the sales of non-participating contributors.

In my case, I typically make a lot of cart sales with my niche content, which suggests that I may have irregular customers who might be unaware of this new filter, potentially hurting my sales.

However, I'm okay with this, as my sales are picking up on both AS and Artlist.

« Reply #112 on: April 24, 2025, 21:58 »
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The automatic unlimited only filter on SS is likely a temporary promotion for their new offering.

I expect them to eventually remove this feature. In the meantime, depending on the type of content in their portfolios, it may negatively impact the sales of non-participating contributors.

In my case, I typically make a lot of cart sales with my niche content, which suggests that I may have irregular customers who might be unaware of this new filter, potentially hurting my sales.

However, I'm okay with this, as my sales are picking up on both AS and Artlist.

Given the cost and very generous license conditions of this massively undercut their existing packages, the only way i see this going is unlimited replaces all the options except very high volume SOD stuff.

ogm

« Reply #113 on: April 25, 2025, 03:32 »
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As I understand, with this unlimited plan, the customer can use the downloaded files only once, after having previously registered such use, and within the time of their subscription.

A file cannot be stored and reused, but only for a current project. This should mean that each download will be equal to one project and the authors will not be compensated once and for all, as for a normal license!

https://www.shutterstock.com/terms/fair-usage

« Reply #114 on: April 25, 2025, 05:41 »
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As I understand, with this unlimited plan, the customer can use the downloaded files only once, after having previously registered such use, and within the time of their subscription.

A file cannot be stored and reused, but only for a current project. This should mean that each download will be equal to one project and the authors will not be compensated once and for all, as for a normal license!

https://www.shutterstock.com/terms/fair-usage

Completely and utterly unenforceable.

« Reply #115 on: April 25, 2025, 06:29 »
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As I understand, with this unlimited plan, the customer can use the downloaded files only once, after having previously registered such use, and within the time of their subscription.

A file cannot be stored and reused, but only for a current project. This should mean that each download will be equal to one project and the authors will not be compensated once and for all, as for a normal license!

https://www.shutterstock.com/terms/fair-usage
This is very good news. The same principle applies to Envato subscriptions. I've been wanting to ask about this for a long time, but you beat me to it.

« Reply #116 on: April 25, 2025, 08:50 »
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As I understand, with this unlimited plan, the customer can use the downloaded files only once, after having previously registered such use, and within the time of their subscription.

This would only benefit the contributor if the subsequent downloads of the same element by the same buyer counts toward the contributor's monthly bottom line, or if only the FIRST download counts, and any "re-downloads" by the same buyer is simply provided as a convenience perk.

I wonder how this works on Storyblocks or any other "unlimited" subscription program.


« Reply #117 on: April 25, 2025, 18:37 »
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This would only benefit the contributor if the subsequent downloads of the same element by the same buyer counts toward the contributor's monthly bottom line, or if only the FIRST download counts, and any "re-downloads" by the same buyer is simply provided as a convenience perk.

I wonder how this works on Storyblocks or any other "unlimited" subscription program.

Are you part of the unlimited download model on SS? What are your thoughts on this?

« Reply #118 on: April 25, 2025, 19:25 »
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Are you part of the unlimited download model on SS? What are your thoughts on this?

I am not.  I think subscription programs are in all our futures.

« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2025, 06:24 »
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As I understand, with this unlimited plan, the customer can use the downloaded files only once, after having previously registered such use, and within the time of their subscription.

This would only benefit the contributor if the subsequent downloads of the same element by the same buyer counts toward the contributor's monthly bottom line
That's exactly how it will be.

« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2025, 07:18 »
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I dont mind unlimited download models; I believe there is a definite place for them.

These models work well for curated content, where an agency limits the number of contributors and the amount of content available in each category. Ive seen this approach succeed on Artlist, where my earnings continue to increase.

However, Ive found that not all types of content are suitable for unlimited download models. Niche content tends to perform poorly in these models since the number of downloads is often small. What works best are common subjects that have widespread usage across various applications.

About half of my portfolio fits into each category. If I could choose which content to include in this new model on Shutterstock, I would be glad to opt in. If opting in means including my entire portfolio, my niche content would likely be undervalued.

Ultimately, I dont think it matters much. If I decided to contribute full-time, I could potentially earn a good income on Artlist aloneprobably in less than a year. I also appreciate how Artlist operates, offering stories with entire scenes for editing, which is a nice selling point compared to other agencies.




« Reply #121 on: April 29, 2025, 22:22 »
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Regardless, buyers wont bother.  They'll see enough displayed without more hoops to jump through.  Most will just select the first hits on the first page as always.  They're not going to go out of their way.

Unless the subject they're searching for is a bit rare or not common. In that case, they might get no search results at all with the filters in place. 0 results. Then they might receive a message saying that filters are enabled (prompting them to disable them and search again with no filters.)

« Reply #122 on: Yesterday at 04:34 »
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I wouldnt be concerned about the filter. It's likely temporary as they promote the new subscription model. This strategy makes sense to build traction and raise customer awareness before potentially removing it.

« Reply #123 on: Yesterday at 09:18 »
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I've just received $3.71 from unlimited subscribtion, even though I opted out immediately after I received the email.

« Reply #124 on: Yesterday at 10:21 »
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I have 0 dollars.


 

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