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« Reply #175 on: October 08, 2013, 15:22 »
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nicolebranan

« Reply #176 on: October 08, 2013, 18:16 »
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Scott,

Thank you much for communicating with us here. Now that you've given us a better understanding of what Offset is looking for is it possible to withdraw an application (and apply with a better-suited portfolio at a later time)?

Best,
nicole

« Reply #177 on: October 08, 2013, 19:01 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 09:21 by Audi 5000 »

ShadySue

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« Reply #178 on: October 08, 2013, 19:29 »
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Offset prices are set prices (unless there are bulk deals?).
Alamy prices are often heavily discounted and sometimes not much higher than higher values at iS.

« Reply #179 on: October 08, 2013, 19:41 »
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« Reply #180 on: October 08, 2013, 20:15 »
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I just did a couple of quick searches and I thought some of the images were really nice. I use a lot of images of people enjoying wine and I saw a few that I would definitely purchase if not for the $500 price tag. That's a little steep for some of my clients.

nicolebranan

« Reply #181 on: October 08, 2013, 20:30 »
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Scott,

Thank you much for communicating with us here. Now that you've given us a better understanding of what Offset is looking for is it possible to withdraw an application (and apply with a better-suited portfolio at a later time)?

Best,
nicole
Were you already planning on dropping exclusivity?  Why not contribute to Getty RM or Alamy RM for that type of work?



There are certainly no easy decisions here but from what I can see Offset looks like a more promising venue to me than Getty or Alamy RM.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2013, 20:33 by nicolebranan »

« Reply #182 on: October 08, 2013, 21:03 »
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Scott,

Thank you much for communicating with us here. Now that you've given us a better understanding of what Offset is looking for is it possible to withdraw an application (and apply with a better-suited portfolio at a later time)?

Best,
nicole

Hi Nicole,

Absolutely and thank you for your interest.  I'll inform the team. 

Best,

Scott
VP of Content
Shutterstock
« Last Edit: October 08, 2013, 21:08 by scottbraut »

nicolebranan

« Reply #183 on: October 08, 2013, 21:06 »
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Scott,

Thank you much for communicating with us here. Now that you've given us a better understanding of what Offset is looking for is it possible to withdraw an application (and apply with a better-suited portfolio at a later time)?

Best,
nicole

Hi Nicole,

Absolutely and thank you for your interest.  I'll inform the team.

Best,

Scott
VP of Content
Shutterstock

Thank you!

Ron

« Reply #184 on: October 08, 2013, 23:38 »
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Offset prices are set prices (unless there are bulk deals?).
Alamy prices are often heavily discounted and sometimes not much higher than higher values at iS.
What is the average sale price of an RM image?
Why are we talking RM when Offset is RF?

A full size RF image on Alamy costs around 365 dollar, thats in the Offset price range. I dont think there is anything else to it.

ShadySue

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« Reply #185 on: October 09, 2013, 03:06 »
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Offset prices are set prices (unless there are bulk deals?).
Alamy prices are often heavily discounted and sometimes not much higher than higher values at iS.
What is the average sale price of an RM image?
Why are we talking RM when Offset is RF?

A full size RF image on Alamy costs around 365 dollar, thats in the Offset price range. I dont thihan Rnk there is anything else to it.
Is that what you always get? I've read people say that Alamy RF earns more than RM in general, but Ive read of big discounts there for RF there too.
Also, Tickstock was validly raising the possibility of selling premium files as RM, which is a valid option. I've had some repeat RM sales on Alamy, which is a welcome difference to RF. However, the Offset price is much higher than the average Alamy RM price I get.

« Reply #186 on: November 12, 2013, 01:24 »
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Interesting thread. I don't recognize all of the names but noticed the artists on offset are mostly established and popular assignment photographers. My favourites are Gentl & Hyers, well known for their contemporary style. Alice Gao is an upcoming successful young photographer and an Instagram superstar with almost 700K followers and once was hired to shoot the whole Mercedes-Benz campaign using iPhone. These people are like a brand themselve. Given their popularity, I believe they bring along image buyers.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 02:39 by onepointfour »

Ron

« Reply #187 on: November 12, 2013, 01:59 »
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I applied  and never heard back, same as with Stocksy. I will take the silent hint. LOL

« Reply #188 on: November 12, 2013, 02:44 »
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Kind of (he didn't actually say what you are saying he did), just wondering if there was a policy in force to stop people from contributing images that were already on Offset from being licensed on Shutterstock.   He said they wouldn't accept images that were already on Shutterstock, not the other way around.  What if the file had sold on Shutterstock previously is it ok if it's taken down first?  I'm more interested in if you can have files on other microstock sites and Offset, that would seem to create confusion about the collections too wouldn't it?  Especially with all nonexclusive content at iStock being priced at a max of $10 or at Canstock for even less.

I highly doubt anyone would want to put their stuff on Shutterstock or any other microstock site after it is on Offset selling for far more.

In the rare event that this does happen, I'm sure Scott and team will be working to prevent this kind of overlap. Whether it's policy or not, I'm not sure. But it's also a sort of self-policing thing, where it really seems unlikely that most folks would want that kind of overlap between microstock and Offset.
People do it on Alamy already.  I just found one image from an active member on this forum offered on iStock for about $7.50 and the exact same image on Alamy offered for $365.

One would think that people wouldn't submit to sites that are so much lower in price but I'm sure I could find thousands of examples of this happening already.  If Offset is going to be nonexclusive I would expect contributors to submit their work elsewhere.

Why would you want to deny people the opportunity to buy your work at higher prices just because it is available somewhere else cheaper? People shop where they like, you can't insist they go to one place or another, so it makes sense to have your goods displayed wherever people are likely to go. That's especially true for generic work, such as travel shots, where something almost identical may appear anywhere at any time from another photographer.
If you are producing work that is genuinely unique, highly-skilled and involves the sort of production costs that make it difficult for others to copy - photography and video form helicopters, for example - then you would be stupid to put it anywhere cheap, but if you are churning out generic "business meetings" or pictures of apples and pears then they might as well go everywhere because if you don't put them somewhere, someone else will.

« Reply #189 on: November 12, 2013, 02:51 »
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I applied  and never heard back, same as with Stocksy. I will take the silent hint. LOL

I got rejected by Stocksy and plan to reapply with proper curated portfolio matching their stlye. I'm still hopeful for Stocksy though but Offset seems far above my reach. I love creating images and hate marketing to core especially in social network. So I don't see any way my works will be noticed, popular and cool enough to be accepted by Offset.  :P

Ron

« Reply #190 on: November 12, 2013, 03:05 »
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I applied  and never heard back, same as with Stocksy. I will take the silent hint. LOL

I got rejected by Stocksy and plan to reapply with proper curated portfolio matching their stlye. I'm still hopeful for Stocksy though but Offset seems far above my reach. I love creating images and hate marketing to core especially in social network. So I don't see any way my works will be noticed, popular and cool enough to be accepted by Offset.  :P
I have seen brilliant work on OFFset, but I have also seen work that is quite poor, and my images are certainly not worse, so there is a place for everyone me thinks. I will chase them and see why there was no answer. They did say it could take weeks for them to get back.

« Reply #191 on: November 12, 2013, 03:18 »
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Unused Images Are Fodder for New High-End Stock Photo Agency

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There are a couple key phrases were using to describe the work on Offset, says Scott Braut, the Vice President of Content for Shutterstock. We have authentic imagery, images that were shot in natural light of real looking people. We have images that reflect a contemporary art direction and style, images that resonate with high-end brands. And we have storytelling images. Images that tell a story by themselves of work with other images to tell a story. ..... Braut says the Offset team wants to be discerning about choosing the right photographers whose work meets the bar and fits the established aesthetic.


b i n g o


« Reply #192 on: November 12, 2013, 03:20 »
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I applied  and never heard back, same as with Stocksy. I will take the silent hint. LOL

I got rejected by Stocksy and plan to reapply with proper curated portfolio matching their stlye. I'm still hopeful for Stocksy though but Offset seems far above my reach. I love creating images and hate marketing to core especially in social network. So I don't see any way my works will be noticed, popular and cool enough to be accepted by Offset.  :P
I have seen brilliant work on OFFset, but I have also seen work that is quite poor, and my images are certainly not worse, so there is a place for everyone me thinks. I will chase them and see why there was no answer. They did say it could take weeks for them to get back.

I hope you get in Ron. I agree there are poor images in there. My guess these photos aren't their forte. I mean, one could be a wonderful food, lifestyle or fashion photographer. But when it comes to travel, landscape the same photographer may only produce mediocre photos since it's not his/her specialty.

« Reply #193 on: November 12, 2013, 03:24 »
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Unused Images Are Fodder for New High-End Stock Photo Agency

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There are a couple key phrases were using to describe the work on Offset, says Scott Braut, the Vice President of Content for Shutterstock. We have authentic imagery, images that were shot in natural light of real looking people. We have images that reflect a contemporary art direction and style, images that resonate with high-end brands. And we have storytelling images. Images that tell a story by themselves of work with other images to tell a story. ..... Braut says the Offset team wants to be discerning about choosing the right photographers whose work meets the bar and fits the established aesthetic.


b i n g o


Yup, it's not entirely about the images but the names behind those photos. That's what I feel about offset.

Ron

« Reply #194 on: November 12, 2013, 03:48 »
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Unused Images Are Fodder for New High-End Stock Photo Agency

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There are a couple key phrases were using to describe the work on Offset, says Scott Braut, the Vice President of Content for Shutterstock. We have authentic imagery, images that were shot in natural light of real looking people. We have images that reflect a contemporary art direction and style, images that resonate with high-end brands. And we have storytelling images. Images that tell a story by themselves of work with other images to tell a story. ..... Braut says the Offset team wants to be discerning about choosing the right photographers whose work meets the bar and fits the established aesthetic.


b i n g o


Absolutely true, but the images would be rejected at Shutterstock.

For example:  71171,  71342, 69693

Why is uneven lighting and poor composition acceptable for OFFset and not for SS? It tells a story? Why is a lesser quality image worth 500 dollars and a higher quality image 38 cent?

Note:  Poor lighting and composition is subjective, I understand that

drd

« Reply #195 on: November 12, 2013, 04:40 »
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Which is the way to contribute to Getty RM?

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Were you already planning on dropping exclusivity?  Why not contribute to Getty RM or Alamy RM for that type of work?
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« Reply #196 on: December 05, 2013, 06:39 »
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Hi all,
Anybody got any reply yet on their Offset application as contributor?
Cheers

Ron

« Reply #197 on: December 05, 2013, 06:57 »
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Hi all,
Anybody got any reply yet on their Offset application as contributor?
Cheers
Never, but I dont have any hopes anyways. LOL

« Reply #198 on: December 05, 2013, 09:01 »
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Hi all,
Anybody got any reply yet on their Offset application as contributor?
Cheers

Anybody know if they are making sales in any reasonable volume? If they are I'll get off my arse and  invest time/money into meeting their criteria - otherwise I'm not that bothered about joining the club.

« Reply #199 on: January 20, 2014, 08:16 »
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I believe its simple. If your images are accepted by Offset you cannot sell same(and similar) images on microstock sites.

Offset offer non-exclusive RF contract, so you can sell same RF images for example at Alamy, AGEfotostock, Zoonar, Inmagine etc. (because these sites have similar RF pricing and offer non-exclusive RF contracts).

Or you can become contributor of one of these agencies(but they require image exclusivity) listed as suppliers of Offset and if you are lucky sooner or later your images will appear at Offset under the agency collection.
http://www.offset.com/artists-and-agencies

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong  ::)


The link you gave shows only a list of artists and agencies whose work is represented by Offset.
Maybe the rules you're quoting are only visible once you're 'in' (?)



I am not quoting any rules. I am just saying what is my own understanding of Offsets non-exclusivity.



I don't know about the link, I just recommend anybody not to use agefotostock if you don't want:

1. Never to sell anything
2. Have troubles to recover your images
3. Keep your copyright

Be very careful with these people  >:(


 

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