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« on: January 09, 2014, 14:42 »
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Well this was a surprise. Our learned friend Sean has finally uploaded an exploratory selection of his images to Shutterstock. Read all about it here;

http://www.seanlockephotography.com/2014/01/08/now-licensing-shutterstock/

Portfolio on SS;

http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-2084267p1.html

Good luck with it!


« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 15:01 »
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That's a surprise - but it does make sense. Trying to get a decent return must be almost impossible if you refuse to go on subscription sites.

« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 15:14 »
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That's a surprise - but it does make sense. Trying to get a decent return must be almost impossible if you refuse to go on subscription sites.

I didn't want to start a whole post about me here, so I put it on my blog, but I knew I'd be "outed" eventually, lol.

Like I said, it's hard to talk intelligently about it if I have no experience, so it seems like a good idea to give it a try, as "unprofessional" as it might be ;) .

Goofy

« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 15:19 »
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This explains why I've seen a big drop in my sales! Sean is getting them all lol!  ;)



« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 15:35 »
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That's a surprise - but it does make sense. Trying to get a decent return must be almost impossible if you refuse to go on subscription sites.

I didn't want to start a whole post about me here, so I put it on my blog, but I knew I'd be "outed" eventually, lol.

Like I said, it's hard to talk intelligently about it if I have no experience, so it seems like a good idea to give it a try, as "unprofessional" as it might be ;) .

It would be interesting to see how it goes... Or is that against the terms of service? I have to say, I've been tempted to upload a batch or two there just to see if it would jump start my declining sales there.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 15:47 »
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How did you get past the captcha?

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 16:05 »
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Captcha is nothing

How did he get images of a clearly visible GM SUV accepted as non editorial????

And how did he get people accepted with no model release????

« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 16:13 »
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What image doesn't have a release?

« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 16:16 »
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best of luck Sean

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2014, 16:17 »
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What image doesn't have a release?
My bad I see they do have releases.

« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2014, 16:26 »
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never say never

« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2014, 16:38 »
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2014, 16:45 »
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Another lost battle against the subs system.

Anyway, good luck.

« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2014, 16:50 »
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the sub system is fine.

The problem is that the agencies cheat in their end, and take endless amounts of new photographers in, so that the images cannot earn enough downloads per image.

« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2014, 16:57 »
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Another lost battle against the subs system.

Anyway, good luck.

As you well know, the circumstances are not of Sean's choosing. As we all do, you play the hand you're dealt - unless you cheat in some fashion (the non-exclusive exclusives, for example).

If iStock hadn't behaved so abominably, I'd still be an exclusive and would never have put anything in the partner program, and...

Even Getty contributors got stuck with forced subscription sales if Getty chose it as the "best" place to market their work.

As a seller, I think subscriptions suck, but I can live with the SS bargain because (a) their volume is high and (b) only about 40% of my sales there are subscription and the percentage has been steadily dropping as SS goes after Getty's business.

« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2014, 17:03 »
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In the digital age on the world market it does not matter if you sell your image 1000 times for 1 dollar or 1 time for 1000 dollars.

For me it is fine if the customer gets the images cheaply, as long as I sell them often enough.

« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2014, 18:37 »
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well I wouldn't have put money on this 2 years ago. I can more than understand when SS is polling at more than the next top 3 combined.



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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2014, 18:42 »
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well I wouldn't have put money on this 2 years ago. I can more than understand when SS is polling at more than the next top 3 combined.
Two year ago, Sean's circumstances were vastly different.
iStock chose to deliver his port to the opposition on a plate.

« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2014, 18:46 »
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Fascinating! Very brave to reevaluate your opinion of subs and Shutterstock and to just go and test it directly! Personally I think Videos are more interesting than photos, but my portfolio for photos is still too small and I am not uploading enough. SS needs very regular uploads, preferably in larger batches. At least for me the results were better if I combined my weekly uploads into one large lot instead of sending a few images every day.

Feels like spinning a wheel and a very large batch, gives a very visible push to the whole portfolio. Then things slowly drop down again and settle at a higher level than before. The lower level is remarkably stable, even if you dont upload for 2 months. I can see why the community likes SS.

Plus the upload system is superb and SS has managed to keep their business running with a lot less emotional drama than all the other agencies. It means they have very good peopleskills and know how to respect the community as a group of independent entrepreneurs that they meet at eye level.

I need to get used to producing in much higher volume, not just for SS. But I am happy to do this if supplying several agencies keeps me free and my income balanced.

Ron

« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2014, 02:23 »
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Its quite a shift in the industry. Yuri and Andresr leave SS for IS, and Sean is no longer on IS and submitting to SS.

« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2014, 02:29 »
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Like I said, it's hard to talk intelligently about it if I have no experience, so it seems like a good idea to give it a try, as "unprofessional" as it might be ;)

Good luck with it! I hope you made a good choice and you'll see profit fast :) Let us know how it goes! :)

« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2014, 03:27 »
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In my eyes your integrity is still immaculate.
Your are still my hero.
Good luck.

@ Ron, pls don't compare Sean with  "iStock's professionals", it is insulting ;)

« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2014, 03:28 »
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I think this is a good decision. And it will benefit everyone, because Sean's good imagery will draw more customers to Shutterstock. I wish you good luck!

« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2014, 03:37 »
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So, Sean, is it living up to its billing so far?

« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2014, 04:40 »
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Sean,
Could you please prepare Greasemonkey scripts which:
- remove Captcha
- put date and city automatically in caption for editorial files
Thank you


 

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