Author Topic: Shutterstock - Where are we going? (Read 40643 times)

pkphotos · « **Reply #75 on:** March 20, 2018, 14:03 »

I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.

jonbull · « **Reply #76 on:** March 20, 2018, 14:37 »

Quote from: pkphotos on March 20, 2018, 14:03

I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.

unbielevable

dpimborough · « **Reply #77 on:** March 20, 2018, 15:01 »

Quote from: pkphotos on March 20, 2018, 14:03

I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.

And over 80% are from the same bloke with the stupid titles of "Beautiful beaches in New Zealand" or "Famous beach in New Zealand" instead of even naming the beach

Microstock is just populated by ejits these days

Zero Talent · « **Reply #78 on:** March 20, 2018, 15:32 »

Quote from: pkphotos on March 20, 2018, 14:03

I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.

Why don't you use this opportunity to create some high quality material from that place?
It looks to me that you discovered a niche.
Go for it!

dpimborough · « **Reply #79 on:** March 20, 2018, 16:26 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 20, 2018, 15:32

Quote from: pkphotos on March 20, 2018, 14:03
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.

Why don't you use this opportunity to create some high quality material from that place?
It looks to me that you discovered a niche.
Go for it!

What if they live in another country?

They should just go hop on a plane? LOLZ

Zero Talent · « **Reply #80 on:** March 20, 2018, 17:14 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2018, 16:26

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 20, 2018, 15:32
Quote from: pkphotos on March 20, 2018, 14:03
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.

Why don't you use this opportunity to create some high quality material from that place?
It looks to me that you discovered a niche.
Go for it!

What if they live in another country?

They should just go hop on a plane? LOLZ

Why would someone bother to search for some random place with a strange name, if not because a specific relation to it?
Maybe pkphotos is planing for a vacation there. Why the LOLZ? Is it so hard to assume that?
I know I do my homework before my vacations, don't you?

dpimborough · « **Reply #81 on:** March 20, 2018, 17:28 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 20, 2018, 17:14

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2018, 16:26
Quote from: Zero Talent on March 20, 2018, 15:32
Quote from: pkphotos on March 20, 2018, 14:03
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.

Why don't you use this opportunity to create some high quality material from that place?
It looks to me that you discovered a niche.
Go for it!

What if they live in another country?

They should just go hop on a plane? LOLZ

Why would someone bother to search for some random place with a strange name, if not because a specific relation to it?
Maybe the OP is planing for a vacation there. Why the LOLZ? Is it so hard to assume that?
I know I do my homework before my vacations, don't you?

lolz
lɒlz/
nouninformal
noun: lolz; noun: lols

fun, laughter, or amusement.

Just about says it all

Zero Talent · « **Reply #82 on:** March 20, 2018, 17:31 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2018, 17:28

lolz
lɒlz/
nouninformal
noun: lolz; noun: lols

fun, laughter, or amusement.

Just about says it all

Really?

Wow! I would have never guessed! That is changing everything! Not!
LOLZ

!

dpimborough · « **Reply #83 on:** March 20, 2018, 17:52 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 20, 2018, 17:31

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2018, 17:28
lolz
lɒlz/
nouninformal
noun: lolz; noun: lols

fun, laughter, or amusement.

Just about says it all

Really? Wow! I would have never guessed! That is changing everything! Not!
LOLZ !

You said "why the LOLZ" so I told you

You need to really take a chill pill

LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Zero Talent · « **Reply #84 on:** March 20, 2018, 18:42 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2018, 17:52

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 20, 2018, 17:31
Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2018, 17:28
lolz
lɒlz/
nouninformal
noun: lolz; noun: lols

fun, laughter, or amusement.

Just about says it all

Really? Wow! I would have never guessed! That is changing everything! Not!
LOLZ !

You said "why the LOLZ" so I told you

You need to really take a chill pill

LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Ok, I can do that! Now that you clarify what "lol "means (thank you!), what are you lolz-ing at, if I may? Why the lolz?

dpimborough · « **Reply #85 on:** March 21, 2018, 01:36 »

LOOOOL

Zero Talent · « **Reply #86 on:** March 21, 2018, 06:34 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 21, 2018, 01:36

LOOOOL

You are a very funny laughing cat, Sammy!
Even when your laugh sounds more like a hyena, than a cat.
Do it again, it's cute!

Zero Talent · « **Reply #87 on:** March 21, 2018, 06:37 »

NeonRobot · « **Reply #88 on:** March 22, 2018, 10:26 »

Quote from: Chichikov on March 07, 2018, 11:38

When these things happenning I think that it is really the end…

I never use my mobile phone to take pictures, but last week I have decided to make a little experiment.
So I took three picture with an old Moto G2 with a very bad 8 Mpixels camera, and after a little post production I have uploaded them on Shutterstock, just to see what will happen.

Well, all three have been accepted.
I am speechless!

I attach some crop @100% of the images.

Really, today they accept even this $hit (noise, artifact, blurred/out of focus, etc.)?

I submit *heavy* processed images from Nokia PureView 808 shrinked to 3000 width.
Only daylight images with good illumination could reach acceptable quality.

I have hacked firmware which gives me not 38MP, but 41.5 output.

The second phone that can provide similar quality is Panasonic CM-1.

All other phones including newest iPhones and googlophones are pure crap and could not be submitted.

And you know why they accept low-quality images, because of their greed. It is transparent.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #89 on:** March 23, 2018, 00:55 »

Quote from: spacedrone808 on March 22, 2018, 10:26

All other phones including newest iPhones and googlophones are pure crap and could not be submitted.

Crap or not, but they are just as good (or bad) as 99% of the drones out there, from which footage and images get accepted and sold in great numbers everywhere.

NeonRobot · « **Reply #90 on:** March 23, 2018, 09:00 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on March 23, 2018, 00:55

Quote from: spacedrone808 on March 22, 2018, 10:26
All other phones including newest iPhones and googlophones are pure crap and could not be submitted.

Crap or not, but they are just as good (or bad) as 99% of the drones out there, from which footage and images get accepted and sold in great numbers everywhere.

yeap, if newest smartphones don't have appropriate sensors (in terms of physical size), then drones don't have them definitely.

alexandersr · « **Reply #91 on:** April 06, 2018, 14:13 »

Quote from: spacedrone808 on March 23, 2018, 09:00

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on March 23, 2018, 00:55
Quote from: spacedrone808 on March 22, 2018, 10:26
All other phones including newest iPhones and googlophones are pure crap and could not be submitted.

Crap or not, but they are just as good (or bad) as 99% of the drones out there, from which footage and images get accepted and sold in great numbers everywhere.

yeap, if newest smartphones don't have appropriate sensors (in terms of physical size), then drones don't have them definitely.

That's right!

stockastic · « **Reply #92 on:** April 06, 2018, 14:31 »

My take on SS is that they completely sold themselves on the idea that they're a super high-tech company with an R&D group that will work miracles. So they decided they no longer need incoming inspection, because very soon now they'll be able to do it all with "AI". It won't matter how much junk they have in the archives because their amazing software will identify all aspects of quality and relevance and push that out in the search.

Another reason they love this idea is that it means they can cut all the reviewing costs and instantly show some better numbers to their investors. And to those execs whose bonuses are tied to profit targets for this year.

As with autonomous vehicles, they're now finding out that the devil is in the details, it isn't quite as easy as they thought. Months turn into years and they're still putting pages of junk in front of buyers. But hey, that AI breakthrough is right around the corner - next quarter for sure...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #93 on:** April 24, 2018, 12:32 »

I was just sorting some old storage and came across this from 2012 - the top 12 contributors. I don't have the time or inclination to repeat the search, one by one.

December end of year 2017 - 17743 members with over 1000 images, that would be the active contributors at some kind of level, not that someone with 200 really unique images couldn't be working. There's just a line somewhere and 1,000 was it.

Africa Studio keeps working, 130,000 images, Featureflash is an agency, couldn't find Helga.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #94 on:** April 24, 2018, 14:02 »

Quote from: stockastic on April 06, 2018, 14:31

My take on SS is that they completely sold themselves on the idea that they're a super high-tech company with an R&D group that will work miracles. So they decided they no longer need incoming inspection, because very soon now they'll be able to do it all with "AI". It won't matter how much junk they have in the archives because their amazing software will identify all aspects of quality and relevance and push that out in the search.

Another reason they love this idea is that it means they can cut all the reviewing costs and instantly show some better numbers to their investors. And to those execs whose bonuses are tied to profit targets for this year.

As with autonomous vehicles, they're now finding out that the devil is in the details, it isn't quite as easy as they thought. Months turn into years and they're still putting pages of junk in front of buyers. But hey, that AI breakthrough is right around the corner - next quarter for sure...

Yes I buy that the other thing I'd add is they don't really see their future growth in "bog standard" Mstock its all the fancy stuff and moving into other more profitable markets.

Michael Lancaster · « **Reply #95 on:** May 25, 2018, 01:44 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 24, 2018, 12:32

Africa Studio keeps working, 130,000 images, Featureflash is an agency, couldn't find Helga.

Helga is on the site with 374,005 images.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #96 on:** May 25, 2018, 22:21 »

Quote from: Michael Lancaster on May 25, 2018, 01:44

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 24, 2018, 12:32
Africa Studio keeps working, 130,000 images, Featureflash is an agency, couldn't find Helga.

Helga is on the site with 374,005 images.

Nice work

rinderart · « **Reply #97 on:** May 29, 2018, 19:43 »

Quote from: DallasP on March 08, 2018, 21:10

I think that your all kinda forgetting that for the most part these images just get used for some social media thing or websites ... They don't really need to be publication quality if they're just going to be forgotten in 3 days ... and consumers don't really care if it's grainy or a bit soft. Especially if at the intended resolution it's not going to be noticed. We might as well just jump on the bandwagon and upload everything we see.

After Reading the entire thread with some good stuff. By all. Im going with this above. I just left the SS forums after 55,651 Posts and 13 years and for the 4th and seriously Last time Because it Just got dumber every day and I just couldn't look anymore at the work people were submitting and asking me to critique. I wrote this and I totally believe it. Such a shame. But It is true.

"It's pretty clear to me that if I want sales or, anyone else wants sales you need to go to any large super market or Drug store and Take a picture of every Product on the shelves, then go outside and take every snapshot of a Business storefront ,Car or person doing anything it doesn't matter really, with and without there Kids and be sure to watch for Local Car shows and take 4 shots of each Car ...go take a 1000 or More a day that require little or no Processing and submit everything regardless of any creative skill or Planning or expense whatsoever as editorial Of course. all It would take is 3 Months and you would have 900 Pages of SO CALLED "Todays" "Perfect Stock" get a few friends to help and bam.....Done.And I mean IE...."Todays Perfect Stock" That has a shelf Life of a few Months or until they change the search or algorithm. Thats what this is now My friends. "Oh and don't forget to do some stupid Instagram filters to show your cool", Trendy And 'with it" And if ya get a rejection any rejection Just submit it many more times. That is if you get a Lucky day where the upload works.LOL

rinderart · « **Reply #98 on:** May 29, 2018, 19:57 »

Quote from: stockastic on April 06, 2018, 14:31

My take on SS is that they completely sold themselves on the idea that they're a super high-tech company with an R&D group that will work miracles. So they decided they no longer need incoming inspection, because very soon now they'll be able to do it all with "AI". It won't matter how much junk they have in the archives because their amazing software will identify all aspects of quality and relevance and push that out in the search.

Another reason they love this idea is that it means they can cut all the reviewing costs and instantly show some better numbers to their investors. And to those execs whose bonuses are tied to profit targets for this year.

As with autonomous vehicles, they're now finding out that the devil is in the details, it isn't quite as easy as they thought. Months turn into years and they're still putting pages of junk in front of buyers. But hey, that AI breakthrough is right around the corner - next quarter for sure...

Well Said...I've been told by a Bird, thats exactly whats going On. and using our work to test AI to sell it. I know my sales are being manipulated also no one except some friends who are alive and aware get the same amount of sales for Months now. Most popular is so far away from Most popular it Blows me away.

BalkanskiMacak · « **Reply #99 on:** May 30, 2018, 02:56 »

Quote from: rinderart on May 29, 2018, 19:43

Quote from: DallasP on March 08, 2018, 21:10
I think that your all kinda forgetting that for the most part these images just get used for some social media thing or websites ... They don't really need to be publication quality if they're just going to be forgotten in 3 days ... and consumers don't really care if it's grainy or a bit soft. Especially if at the intended resolution it's not going to be noticed. We might as well just jump on the bandwagon and upload everything we see.

After Reading the entire thread with some good stuff. By all. Im going with this above. I just left the SS forums after 55,651 Posts and 13 years and for the 4th and seriously Last time Because it Just got dumber every day and I just couldn't look anymore at the work people were submitting and asking me to critique. I wrote this and I totally believe it. Such a shame. But It is true.

"It's pretty clear to me that if I want sales or, anyone else wants sales you need to go to any large super market or Drug store and Take a picture of every Product on the shelves, then go outside and take every snapshot of a Business storefront ,Car or person doing anything it doesn't matter really, with and without there Kids and be sure to watch for Local Car shows and take 4 shots of each Car ...go take a 1000 or More a day that require little or no Processing and submit everything regardless of any creative skill or Planning or expense whatsoever as editorial Of course. all It would take is 3 Months and you would have 900 Pages of SO CALLED "Todays" "Perfect Stock" get a few friends to help and bam.....Done.And I mean IE...."Todays Perfect Stock" That has a shelf Life of a few Months or until they change the search or algorithm. Thats what this is now My friends. "Oh and don't forget to do some stupid Instagram filters to show your cool", Trendy And 'with it" And if ya get a rejection any rejection Just submit it many more times. That is if you get a Lucky day where the upload works.LOL

The question is: if this is selling, why not doing it? After all, it does not compete with high quality pictures, given we are talking here about some niche markets, and, according you what you write, there is a return on investment, maybe for a short time, but pretty good compared to the amount of time and work provided...

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