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« Reply #350 on: December 08, 2022, 08:12 »
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With 11335 Photos - 31,91 $ in November.
Meanwhile the others: https://www.anadolustok.com/konu-kas%C4%B1m-2022-sat%C4%B1%C5%9Flar%C4%B1
OMG, that's a lot of work for $30. Have you considered another hobby!

 ;D Well taken  ;D


Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #351 on: December 08, 2022, 12:10 »
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With 11335 Photos - 31,91 $ in November.
Meanwhile the others: https://www.anadolustok.com/konu-kas%C4%B1m-2022-sat%C4%B1%C5%9Flar%C4%B1

Hello friends.

I stopped uploading images for 2 years because I protested Shutterstock, but I still had a monthly income of over $50. Since I stopped uploading photos and winter came, my sales also dropped.
In general, sales decrease in winter.

I've earned a little, but I'll still share it to give friends an idea.

My November 2022 sales:

Adobe Stock = 7071 photos = $33.16
Shutterstock = 11335 photos = $31.91
Istock / Getty = 3305 photos = $12.44 (October sales actually)
Depositphotos = 12873 photos = $3.69
Dreamstime = 12873 = $1.05

I'll start uploading photos again. Will sales increase?
What is the situation with you?


Helpful English Translation.

The only thing that uploading more photos helps is, new photo and the new photo boost, and maybe (a distant maybe?) if someone looks at your portfolio because of the new photo, they might see an old photo.

You might consider the complaints that old photos sell better than new? And there have been people who left, much like you, and came back to find they are still selling images, like they did twp years ago. There are also people who keep uploading new and work, and their sales are dropping.

Uploading or not, seems to have the same effect as posting messages on this forum. What I mean is, neither one is connected to more or less sales. I don't think there are any tricks that will make a difference.

My situation? I think I make better images now and upload at a steady pace and I make less now than in 2012. But one thing is for sure, those are my images and yours are yours, so what happens to mine is only relevant to mine.

Shutterstock = 11335 photos = $31.91 Your RPI = .28 cents While mine for 5282 images is 1 cent, $53.56 in Nov, which is not that great. I don't mean this to be snooty or mean, but maybe you should try to create more images that sell instead of just, more images? Too many of mine are just filler or, I made it, so I'll upload it, and they will never get a download in their lifetime. (math corrected = thanks)

Only 1400 of my images have ever made a sale. Just over 25%. You can look at  https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings/top-performers?page=1&date_range=0&sort_direction=desc&per_page=100 that's 100 per page, and just count the pages times 100. That's your sold images.

What's your percentage? That will tell you if the problem isn't how many images, but what are they?

Good Luck finding what you are looking for and Happy Sales

« Last Edit: December 08, 2022, 13:50 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #352 on: December 08, 2022, 12:20 »
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What Pete said - except fix the math. More like .28 cents and 1 cent per image.

If it was linear (and it isn't) that means if you can get 3 more images accepted you will make less than one more cent in a month.

« Reply #353 on: December 08, 2022, 15:34 »
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What Pete said - except fix the math. More like .28 cents and 1 cent per image.

If it was linear (and it isn't) that means if you can get 3 more images accepted you will make less than one more cent in a month.

yet another example of why RPI is of little use - RPI may be small, but RPD ignores the size of the portfolio and shows actual income. my RPI for SS is tiny, but RPD has been between .4 & .7 over last year, with average of .5   


however, RPD can also be deceiving - my RPD for AS averages .7 but is steaduly only 50% of SS actual income

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #354 on: December 09, 2022, 16:17 »
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What Pete said - except fix the math. More like .28 cents and 1 cent per image.

If it was linear (and it isn't) that means if you can get 3 more images accepted you will make less than one more cent in a month.

yet another example of why RPI is of little use - RPI may be small, but RPD ignores the size of the portfolio and shows actual income. my RPI for SS is tiny, but RPD has been between .4 & .7 over last year, with average of .5   


however, RPD can also be deceiving - my RPD for AS averages .7 but is steaduly only 50% of SS actual income

RPI is only for each individual. I don't watch that myself. But the idea was, for 11,000 images vs 5,000 images, one of use made more money, with less images. And the original question was about uploading more images, will they make more. Also if starting to upload again after a two years lay off, would make a difference.

I don't think either matters. More isn't the answer, in my opinion, but better and finding buyers needs, trends and subjects is a better plan.

I also don't buy they uploading or not, changes the images that are already up for sale? I can see any logical reason why and agency cares if you uploaded an image in 2008 or yesterday. Their goal is put the images up for the buyers and make as much as possible, not play favorites or silly games with giving someone a better position.

This is impersonal, they don't care what people post on forums, or how many uploads or when we uploaded the last image. If someone had 100 world class stunning, images, they would be sold and ranked by the image, not who or how many images we put up on the site.

« Reply #355 on: December 16, 2022, 03:38 »
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$0.07 for a Contributor fund. Great!

Which image and metadata were used is of course not shown.

« Reply #356 on: December 16, 2022, 11:13 »
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I suppose it's good news if I don't see any payments on the contributor's fund.
No AI competition for my images?

« Reply #357 on: December 16, 2022, 11:19 »
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I suppose it's good news if I don't see any payments on the contributor's fund.
No AI competition for my images?

And at the same time should I be worried about the fact that my 0,42 cents seems to be one of the higher amount registered by forum users?  :o

« Reply #358 on: December 30, 2022, 02:02 »
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Shutterstock needs to improve in accepting photos

Look at this
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/oki+septiani

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #359 on: December 30, 2022, 11:49 »
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Shutterstock needs to improve in accepting photos

Look at this
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/oki+septiani

The first two actually have downloads?  :o I guess they are soft focus backgrounds. "blurred background" But I agree, they are terrible. Here's someone with four images, and they should be able to cash out in 2034?

I suppose it's good news if I don't see any payments on the contributor's fund.
No AI competition for my images?

And at the same time should I be worried about the fact that my 0,42 cents seems to be one of the higher amount registered by forum users?  :o
I promise, I'm not that good and here are my payouts. All higher than 42 cents.  8)

$37.50, .53 and .73.

I suspect these are make up credits for past use. The email said every six months?

« Reply #360 on: December 30, 2022, 15:29 »
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December turned out to be the best month of the year in terms of income. So January will be a failure.

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #361 on: December 30, 2022, 20:16 »
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I can pretty much gaurantee that January will probably be one of the best months, if not the best month, in almost a year*.


Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #362 on: December 31, 2022, 12:11 »
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I can pretty much gaurantee that January will probably be one of the best months, if not the best month, in almost a year*.

Maybe for you, but usually my Dec. is a great month.

Best to everyone for 2023.


SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #363 on: December 31, 2022, 15:54 »
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I was referring to Shutterstock having the best month in January, without specifically stating so, in an effort to demonstrate to Stroker that it's important to make it clear who exactly is having their 'best month'. If you say you are having your best month, that's fine... if you just say it's the best month in general, that implies you have some kind of behind the scenes knowledge that's not available to the rest of us.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #364 on: January 01, 2023, 10:19 »
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I was referring to Shutterstock having the best month in January, without specifically stating so, in an effort to demonstrate to Stroker that it's important to make it clear who exactly is having their 'best month'. If you say you are having your best month, that's fine... if you just say it's the best month in general, that implies you have some kind of behind the scenes knowledge that's not available to the rest of us.

Oh thanks for explaining. Yeah, they will, because we get the least.



Looking back at the first reset.




« Reply #365 on: January 08, 2023, 12:00 »
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Not finished shoving all the details into my spreadsheets yet but for me on SS, 2022 was 10% fewer total downloads and roughly 30% less income than 2021.

The hit is entirely due to the low commissions being paid (and for the first few months, levels).  Similar amounts of stuff is being sold but for a much cheaper price.

Meanwhile on the crash down from level 5 to 1 combined with holidays im on a massive $26 this month instead of $150+.

2022 became the year AS reliably out performed SS and won comfortably by year end.

« Reply #366 on: January 08, 2023, 13:15 »
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Most agencies now have a problem about buyer password sharing, like Netflix.
No wonder why there are so many 0.10 sales on SS whatever level you are.


« Reply #367 on: January 08, 2023, 13:43 »
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Not finished shoving all the details into my spreadsheets yet but for me on SS, 2022 was 10% fewer total downloads and roughly 30% less income than 2021.

The hit is entirely due to the low commissions being paid (and for the first few months, levels).  Similar amounts of stuff is being sold but for a much cheaper price.

Meanwhile on the crash down from level 5 to 1 combined with holidays im on a massive $26 this month instead of $150+.

2022 became the year AS reliably out performed SS and won comfortably by year end.

That is sad indeed. But we can join hands. For me it is exactly $25.90.

« Reply #368 on: January 08, 2023, 23:10 »
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January is typically my worst month of the year looking back over my data since 2020 (my first January). But this year is even worse, and that with much more content on the ports and it's not just Shutterstock. Shutterstock is actually ahead of the others. 

« Reply #369 on: January 08, 2023, 23:52 »
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Very poor performance. I am at 1/5 of my earning. Those greedy people have filled their pockets and my one of best performing website lost.

« Reply #370 on: January 09, 2023, 18:48 »
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I had about 50 downloads so far this month and my earning is barely above $5. all sub and 10 cents sales barring a few (12 cents, wow). I used to be at $0.33/download so this would've been $15 at least. this is just so demotivating

« Reply #371 on: January 10, 2023, 10:35 »
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So far, this January is tracking at almost the same level as January 2021 in terms of downloads, RPD and revenue. It's pretty terrible but just have to fight through the levels as fast as possible to get to a decent return.

« Reply #372 on: January 13, 2023, 03:55 »
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Strange (though it was only 10 cents so no big deal by any means) but one of my 10-cent sales just disappeared along with the sales count dropping by one. Anyone have this happen?

« Reply #373 on: January 13, 2023, 04:33 »
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Strange (though it was only 10 cents so no big deal by any means) but one of my 10-cent sales just disappeared along with the sales count dropping by one. Anyone have this happen?
Check your adjustment tabs in your earning summary, the sale might have been refunded. Shutterstock is by now the agency with the most refunds per month for me. :(

« Reply #374 on: January 13, 2023, 07:18 »
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Strange (though it was only 10 cents so no big deal by any means) but one of my 10-cent sales just disappeared along with the sales count dropping by one. Anyone have this happen?
Check your adjustment tabs in your earning summary, the sale might have been refunded. Shutterstock is by now the agency with the most refunds per month for me. :(

Ah yes, there it was in adjustments. Thanks for the reminder. While I've occasionally had a peek in adjustments, I had never actually had one... until today. 


 

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