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« Reply #75 on: July 29, 2020, 17:05 »
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Two other people responded to you, but youre just gonna keep on slammin me.  :)

And if anyone is 12, its you. Butthurt? OMG you are so funny and hip. Good grief.  ::)


« Reply #76 on: July 30, 2020, 03:34 »
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LOL :) LOL

« Reply #77 on: July 31, 2020, 08:34 »
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Well, only negative opinions are welcome here ...

So, I am not happy with a general condition of the microstock industry, especially, that I am making my full income here and I am living in US.

However, my total earnings from SS during June and July are much higher than before or the same time last year. It doesn't mean that I like SS! Right now, I am more concerned about not so great performance of AS. And, Pond5 is a disaster for me this year. Fortunately, I am producing mostly still images.

My SS earnings are lower, up to 60 or 70% now. I am not happy with all of Micro either, but the personal attacks and nagative attacks on anybody who doesn't go with the mob, is not right.
Two other people responded to you, but youre just gonna keep on slammin me.  :)

And if anyone is 12, its you. Butthurt? OMG you are so funny and hip. Good grief.  ::)

« Reply #78 on: July 31, 2020, 11:53 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

« Reply #79 on: July 31, 2020, 12:44 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

You should know by now that this isnt a PC-kinda forum. 😀

Shelma1

« Reply #80 on: July 31, 2020, 13:23 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

I agree. Please explain why you're upset with people who are fighting for a higher wage that YOU will also benefit from? I really don't get it. If nobody fights, the agencies will just keep dropping royalty rates, and eventually they'll be unsustainable for YOU, too. 10 is OK right now. How about a year from now, when they drop it to 1? Still OK? 0.1? OK then? When you're starving with 0.1 on each sale and Oringer and Pavlovsky are scooping up your money to pay for their extravagant lifestyles, still OK?

At what point does it become not OK for millionaires and billionaires to take your money to buy their pool tables, caviar, champagne and mansions? When does it become not OK for rich white men in The United States to take money from disabled women (I'm assuming you're a woman) in Africa?

« Reply #81 on: July 31, 2020, 14:15 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

I agree. Please explain why you're upset with people who are fighting for a higher wage that YOU will also benefit from? I really don't get it. If nobody fights, the agencies will just keep dropping royalty rates, and eventually they'll be unsustainable for YOU, too. 10 is OK right now. How about a year from now, when they drop it to 1? Still OK? 0.1? OK then? When you're starving with 0.1 on each sale and Oringer and Pavlovsky are scooping up your money to pay for their extravagant lifestyles, still OK?

At what point does it become not OK for millionaires and billionaires to take your money to buy their pool tables, caviar, champagne and mansions? When does it become not OK for rich white men in The United States to take money from disabled women (I'm assuming you're a woman) in Africa?
Maybe other people telling her whats good for her and being called a Troll for having a different opinion?

Shelma1

« Reply #82 on: July 31, 2020, 14:31 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

I agree. Please explain why you're upset with people who are fighting for a higher wage that YOU will also benefit from? I really don't get it. If nobody fights, the agencies will just keep dropping royalty rates, and eventually they'll be unsustainable for YOU, too. 10 is OK right now. How about a year from now, when they drop it to 1? Still OK? 0.1? OK then? When you're starving with 0.1 on each sale and Oringer and Pavlovsky are scooping up your money to pay for their extravagant lifestyles, still OK?

At what point does it become not OK for millionaires and billionaires to take your money to buy their pool tables, caviar, champagne and mansions? When does it become not OK for rich white men in The United States to take money from disabled women (I'm assuming you're a woman) in Africa?
Maybe other people telling her whats good for her and being called a Troll for having a different opinion?

She's not called a troll for having a different opinion. She's called a troll for consistently coming to this forum to call people names, tell them they're old and have no ideas, and to support Shutterstock no matter how badly they treat her and her fellow contributors.

« Reply #83 on: July 31, 2020, 15:33 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

I agree. Please explain why you're upset with people who are fighting for a higher wage that YOU will also benefit from? I really don't get it. If nobody fights, the agencies will just keep dropping royalty rates, and eventually they'll be unsustainable for YOU, too. 10 is OK right now. How about a year from now, when they drop it to 1? Still OK? 0.1? OK then? When you're starving with 0.1 on each sale and Oringer and Pavlovsky are scooping up your money to pay for their extravagant lifestyles, still OK?

At what point does it become not OK for millionaires and billionaires to take your money to buy their pool tables, caviar, champagne and mansions? When does it become not OK for rich white men in The United States to take money from disabled women (I'm assuming you're a woman) in Africa?
Maybe other people telling her whats good for her and being called a Troll for having a different opinion?
Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

« Reply #84 on: July 31, 2020, 16:14 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

You should know by now that this isnt a PC-kinda forum. 😀

not funny -- trump has made all sorts of rude, obscene, racist, sexist, etc behavior more frequent and it needs to be called out


« Reply #85 on: July 31, 2020, 16:18 »
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She's not called a troll for having a different opinion. She's called a troll for consistently coming to this forum to call people names, tell them they're old and have no ideas

ok,
Quote
, and to support Shutterstock no matter how badly they treat her and her fellow contributors.
doesnt she have the right to express her opinion?

« Reply #86 on: July 31, 2020, 16:21 »
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Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

perhaps, but i haven't seen that here - the original statement was a legitimate one and she got slammed based on hypothetical subtext and judgment

« Reply #87 on: July 31, 2020, 16:54 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

You should know by now that this isnt a PC-kinda forum. 😀

not funny -- trump has made all sorts of rude, obscene, racist, sexist, etc behavior more frequent and it needs to be called out


Is Trump on this forum? 🙄 You are bound and determined to compare me to Trump. LOL. I hate him as much as you do.


I think you also imagine that if you insult me enough, Ill leave. Not happening. I am no more rude than you and a lot of others here. Give it up.

If you go to the top of this thread, you can see some trolling going on. Just to bring the conversation back around to the topic. Speaking of trolls, I gotta stop feeding you.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2020, 06:19 by cathyslife »

Shelma1

« Reply #88 on: July 31, 2020, 17:06 »
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Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

perhaps, but i haven't seen that here - the original statement was a legitimate one and she got slammed based on hypothetical subtext and judgment

All you have to do is click on her name and look at her previous posts.

« Reply #89 on: July 31, 2020, 19:51 »
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Is Trump on this forum? 🙄 You are bound and determined to compare me to Trump. LOL. I hate him as much as you do.


I think you also imagine that if you insult me enough, Ill leave. Not happening. I am no more rude than you and a lot of others here. Give it up....

i wasn't comparing you to trump & i'm sorry if you thought i was... and nothing i said was meant as an insult, much less trying to get you to leave (as if that were possible!?! )

a reporter declines to remove his mask & trump calls him PC -  like 'liberal', or 'democrat', merely saying it is meant to  discredit.   freedom of speech isn't free - we have to constantly defend it and call out offenders -- the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.[/i
 Justice Louis Brandeis in the Whitney opinion

« Reply #90 on: July 31, 2020, 22:19 »
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Yea Josephine is a troll, crap disturber, agitator, rabble rouser, whatever you want to call it

Snow

« Reply #91 on: August 01, 2020, 04:06 »
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Theres a tiny club here on this forum. Always the same names coming up defending those who are against people taking action in any form even though deep down they know those people are right.
Some people can only go trough the day if they have made a few smartass remarks or provoked others in forums. In the end they bring nothing to the table though so to me they read as spam.
Dont let these provokers get to you people, they know good and well who they are and what they do, just ignore them and move on, continue the conversation without them.
I used to let these people get to me but now as Ive said I compare them with spam in my mailbox and we all know what to do with that  ;)


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #92 on: August 01, 2020, 10:26 »
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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

I agree. Please explain why you're upset with people who are fighting for a higher wage that YOU will also benefit from? I really don't get it. If nobody fights, the agencies will just keep dropping royalty rates, and eventually they'll be unsustainable for YOU, too. 10 is OK right now. How about a year from now, when they drop it to 1? Still OK? 0.1? OK then? When you're starving with 0.1 on each sale and Oringer and Pavlovsky are scooping up your money to pay for their extravagant lifestyles, still OK?

At what point does it become not OK for millionaires and billionaires to take your money to buy their pool tables, caviar, champagne and mansions? When does it become not OK for rich white men in The United States to take money from disabled women (I'm assuming you're a woman) in Africa?
Maybe other people telling her whats good for her and being called a Troll for having a different opinion?

She's not called a troll for having a different opinion. She's called a troll for consistently coming to this forum to call people names, tell them they're old and have no ideas, and to support Shutterstock no matter how badly they treat her and her fellow contributors.

Well two out of three, I am old and I don't have any new interesting ideas?  :o



« Reply #93 on: August 01, 2020, 14:02 »
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Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

perhaps, but i haven't seen that here - the original statement was a legitimate one and she got slammed based on hypothetical subtext and judgment

Then you need to read more threads.

PZF

« Reply #94 on: August 01, 2020, 14:16 »
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... i dont see travel opening up til spring 20231 ...
Sadly, it could be around then.  :(

I agree with the rest of what you said, stock is a way for many of us to be 'economically active' fitting in among other commitments (in my case, sharing the care of my Mum), where any sort of regular job wouldn't be possible (I can get called at zero notice at any time, 40 miles away so can't make any sort of arrangement for anything). Others will have similar but different stories. I am aware that there are still people who work at micro full time (maybe fewer than e.g. five years ago).

Also, a lot can depend where you live. I've seen four or five photographers set up in my town over the last maybe 12 years, and others in other towns, and there just isn't the market interest, so all have failed*. The most recent was trying to adopt some techniques I'd seen on Creative Live to grow her business, but US city marketing methods don't really transfer to semi-rural Scotland!
*I see a new one is literally just opening since lockdown started to ease.

So indeed, Microstockphoto, stop lecturing everyone and realise we all have to paddle our own canoes and negotiate our own hazards.

I see near me a photographer offering 2 hour studio portrait sessions for 25, about $30. A course I saw recently spoke about earning hundreds of dollars per session.... Not in anybody's wildest dreams round here.....

rinderart

« Reply #95 on: August 02, 2020, 20:23 »
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Good Actor Headshots In My town are a huge profitable business here.And has been since the turn of the Century. Many.....many years ago I could easily Book 6 a day. Many still do. they become very boring though.

« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2020, 23:09 »
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Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

perhaps, but i haven't seen that here - the original statement was a legitimate one and she got slammed based on hypothetical subtext and judgment

Then you need to read more threads.
why bother - you've obviously already condemned - maybe you should react to what's here rather than prejudging based on alleged past performance - another instance of majority suppression of non-conformists to the party line

either ignore or address the current topic

Shelma1

« Reply #97 on: August 03, 2020, 08:15 »
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Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

perhaps, but i haven't seen that here - the original statement was a legitimate one and she got slammed based on hypothetical subtext and judgment

Then you need to read more threads.
why bother - you've obviously already condemned - maybe you should react to what's here rather than prejudging based on alleged past performance - another instance of majority suppression of non-conformists to the party line

either ignore or address the current topic

The topic was addressed by several people. Again, look at her posts in their totality to see what shes really about. Just because you also see no point in protesting doesnt mean shes not a troll.

« Reply #98 on: August 04, 2020, 02:29 »
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Just because you also see no point in protesting doesnt mean shes not a troll.

Good point well made.

« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2020, 10:31 »
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What is the final goal of the protest?
How realistic are all these energy and time consuming actions?

It took me a couple minutes to disable my port. I save time not uploading there.  I have no interest in harming shutterstock or protesting their policies.  I plan to devote my energy to working with partners that offer me a better return on my time.  I'm also concerned that, with easy price comparison through Google, I am cannabilizing my better-paying sales working with SS.  Last month I made $19 on a sale on 20twenty.  The same image would have netted me $.10 on SS.  Takes a lot of sales to make up that difference in RPD, and the volume wasn't there for me on SS to make it worthwhile to stay.


 

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