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Are you going to join the Symbiostock Network?

Yes
18 (72%)
No
1 (4%)
Undecided
6 (24%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Author Topic: Symbiostock Network: 74 Independent Sites, 80,000 Images  (Read 19160 times)

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Leo Blanchette

« on: June 15, 2013, 03:29 »
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This thread has evolved a bit! Looks like the question has become:

100,000 by September?

There's certainly no rush. Quality over quantity!

See attached pole.

This is what my site (and everyone else's site) aggregates and random. 37 sites and 32,000 images are randomly accounted for by my site, so there are probably more out there.

Could we initiate a challenge? 64,000 images in 2 weeks. 14 days.

It took 3 months to get in the vicinity of 32,000 images while in development. Now that things are becoming stable could we double it in 2 weeks?


...is hosting the party :D



But things are still going awesome. Join the fun.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2013, 01:33 by Leo »


Ron

« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 03:58 »
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I still have 700 images that need to be uploaded, wont be in two weeks as I need to do SEO per image, but I will do my best.

« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 04:08 »
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Symbiostock is at 56,000 images already.

56000?
My "little rogue strawberry" effect :P

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 04:16 »
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LOL

Bamboozled again. Never underestimate that innocent looking little rogue strawberry.

Ok, cut that in half.

Contest is still on. Rogue strawberry does not count in results. This just got challenging.

I updated the numbers.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 04:22 by Leo »

« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 04:22 »
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Half is too low, there is about 32000 images now. Strawberry has only 23700, because many sites still run 2.4.1 version, with 24 images in csv.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 05:23 by ajt »

Ron

« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 04:23 »
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29196 is what I see

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 04:24 »
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This make me laugh. My tired brain...glad someone else is running numbers.

Ok. Updated again.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2013, 04:33 »
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 :P

« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2013, 04:39 »
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http://symbiostock.info 23711 - the same images added again to the basket?

BTW "Scan network and update directory" looks to slow, blank page 90% of the time

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2013, 04:42 »
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BTW "Scan network and update directory" looks to slow, blank page 90% of the time
It just needs a giant loader icon.

ShadySue

« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2013, 04:43 »
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Your poll options are ridiculously black and white.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2013, 04:45 »
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I still have 700 images that need to be uploaded, wont be in two weeks as I need to do SEO per image, but I will do my best.
That should definitely be a consideration for everyone. Which makes it that more challenging. The network thrives in search due to everyone's keeping that regimen.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2013, 04:46 »
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Your poll options are ridiculously black and white.
Sorry, what kind of monitor are you using?

Ron

« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2013, 04:48 »
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Leo you need sleep. She means the poll is very two sided, like yes or no. There is no moderate answer  ;)

« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2013, 04:50 »
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It just needs a giant loader icon.
I mean, it does not finish. probably 30 seconds limit which is to slow, and there are only few sites on the list
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 04:52 by plrang »

« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 04:51 »
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http://symbiostock.info 23711 - the same images added again to the basket?

BTW "Scan network and update directory" looks to slow, blank page 90% of the time


Yes, now my search engine pretends Symbiostock site, and everyone can add it to network list (2.4.3 version required) . Side effect: is has number of indexed images in symbiocard and it sums with other results.

Network scanning is often very slow to me too. It is because (in my case) curl on my server sometimes has problems with DNS, especially with bluehost sites :)
It happens from time to time, and fetching one symbiocard takes 20-30s. So I think that network scanner should work somehow different. Maybe like my search engine: every hour takes only one site and adds new found friends to list.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 04:57 »
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Leo you need sleep. She means the poll is very two sided, like yes or no. There is no moderate answer  ;)
Oh ok. I'll add something in the middle for shady sue to vote on.

Edit - nevermind. It messes up the pole and makes it look confusing.

Edit - Your right! I do need sleep. Anyway, have fun. Back to life again for a few days.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 05:03 by Leo »

Ron

« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 05:25 »
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I still have 700 images that need to be uploaded, wont be in two weeks as I need to do SEO per image, but I will do my best.
That should definitely be a consideration for everyone. Which makes it that more challenging. The network thrives in search due to everyone's keeping that regimen.
The first 100 images I uploaded dont have SEO, they have been indexed yet, the one where I did SEO with the Yoast, do already show up. So I need to delete those images and redo them, and then add the other 600 new images. Oemph.

« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 06:01 »
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Na Leo - Hawaiian Lullaby.wmv

« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 08:22 »
+1
Leo, your symbiostock.com site is down.  Database connection error.

... and wth is http://www.symbiostock.net ?
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 08:28 by Sean Locke Photography »

« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2013, 11:11 »
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Leo, your symbiostock.com site is down.  Database connection error.

... and wth is http://www.symbiostock.net ?


Looks like he is setting up a nice site for folks to get the SY wordpress theme (the .net site). He has talked about that all along.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2013, 11:56 »
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Leo, your symbiostock.com site is down.  Database connection error.

... and wth is http://www.symbiostock.net ?

Mine is .com

Wow...all my sites are down
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 11:59 by Leo »

« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2013, 12:25 »
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Wow...all my sites are down

They are back. What happened?

« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2013, 12:32 »
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And then who is .net setting up a Symbiostock wordpress site?

edit: down at bottom says Design: Matt Dixon. Maybe he started to set up a site for you, Leo?

« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 12:33 »
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I would join the fun if I could understand how the whole thing works  :D Even though there are so many posts about this, everything is so confusing. Do you have a tutorial for extreme noobs?

Ron

« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2013, 12:49 »
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And then who is .net setting up a Symbiostock wordpress site?

edit: down at bottom says Design: Matt Dixon. Maybe he started to set up a site for you, Leo?
Looks like Matt is starting up a Symbiostock agency. The site looks really good as is.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2013, 13:05 »
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Leo, your symbiostock.com site is down.  Database connection error.

... and wth is http://www.symbiostock.net ?


Wow...all my sites are down


They are back. What happened?


Symbiostock.net is the community hub Mat Dixon is working on. Maybe you can knock on his door and it will finish  :)

Don't know what crashed everything. Email is still coming back online too. A call to Inmotion got things going again anyway.


« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2013, 13:06 »
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Even as it stands, Matt is riding on the SEO coattails of SY but doesnt actually sell any items off his SY travelwitness.net site. He directs buyers to his stocksy site. So maybe he is going to set up the rest of the stocksy crew to also make use of SY seo? If so, I hope the rest of us get to ride on the coattails of stocksy traffic the same way.  :D

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2013, 13:08 »
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I would join the fun if I could understand how the whole thing works  :D Even though there are so many posts about this, everything is so confusing. Do you have a tutorial for extreme noobs?


Under all the confusion (and I have to wade through it sometimes too) its quite simple.

1. Sell your images direct, no strings attached. http://www.symbiostock.com/about/
2. Network with other microstockers - which creates benefits too many to name.

Regarding confusion of functionality - I've set up an optional service: http://www.symbiostock.com/symbiostock-site-setup-services-maintenance-assistance/

Although its likely possible you could do it easily yourself, and you'd probably just need me to alter some basic settings at the worst.

oh - and tutorials http://www.creativembers.com/
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 13:13 by Leo »

« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2013, 13:26 »
+1
Hi Symbio community ;D

Firstly I want to congratulate Leo for all the work on the latest months and now all contributors joining building their own Symbio websites, it is just impressive, well done!

Secondly I am sure this was talked before but I have been thinking why don't we all join together in just one site instead of everybody working on their own sites?

I understand that working on our own we can work on the design, the prices, the collection, make it a little like our home but I believe the audience would grow a lot faster if we had just one site, something like an agency, everybody would be free to upload whatever they wish, pick their own prices or we could come up all with an agreement and of course we would share expenses (hosting, domain, etc etc)

I guess it would be the real cooperative, sorry if I am having a dumb idea, sure you guys wonder about this before

best of luck everybody!

edited: typo
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 13:35 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2013, 13:28 »
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I would join the fun if I could understand how the whole thing works  :D Even though there are so many posts about this, everything is so confusing. Do you have a tutorial for extreme noobs?


You can also look here:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock/

As we were all setting up our sites, at some point or another someone had the same issue already that you might run into. Basically you start out getting an ISP host (bluehost has been recommended) then you set up wordpress on that hosts server. From there, you load the SY theme.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2013, 13:43 »
+1
Hi Symbio community ;D

Firstly I want to congratulate Leo for all the work on the latest months and now all contributors joining building their own Symbio websites, it is just impressive, well done!

Secondly I am sure this was talked before but I have been thinking why don't we all join together in just one site instead of everybody working on their own sites?

I understand that working on our own we can work on the design, the prices, the collection, make it a little like our home but I believe the audience would grow a lot faster if we had just one site, something like an agency, everybody would be free to upload whatever they wish, pick their own prices or we could come up all with an agreement and of course we would share expenses (hosting, domain, etc etc)

I guess it would be the real cooperative, sorry if I am having a dumb idea, sure you guys wonder about this before

best of luck everybody!

edited: typo


The closest we'll be coming to that is "hub sites" that do just what your asking. They will import preview images, create their own watermarks, and interface with everyone's sites to allow payments and downloads remotely. Also there is a paid promoter on the way www.picturengine.com which will be tested out too. They've almost finished their Symbiostock connected system.

So really anything is possible - the Symbiostock tool is being made to cater to as many options and ideas as possible. The marketing feature allows what you are suggesting.

As things mature people will have more themes and more convenience, and I'm sure someone interested enough can set up a Symbiostock site hosting service which takes away 100% of the burden for people, allowing them to upload their images and not have to do anything else.

« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2013, 13:49 »
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As things mature people will have more themes and more convenience, and I'm sure someone interested enough can set up a Symbiostock site hosting service which takes away 100% of the burden for people, allowing them to upload their images and not have to do anything else.

I will join on the first second :)

thanks for your reply, you are a truly visionary, cheers!

« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2013, 14:22 »
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And also, what you are suggesting Luis, sounds almost like another agency. If some people are responsible for working on the site and maintaining it, etc., next thing you know, a percentage of sales are going to be asked for to pay for that work. I think your key words that explain why SY is NOT what you are talking about are these: "we could come up all with an agreement and of course we would share expenses (hosting, domain, etc etc)". It might be very tough to come up with terms that everyone would agree on. SY is the best of both worlds.

And if at any point someone feels like SY is not working for them, they can just disconnect from the network. They of course would suffer SEO penalties, but at least all the work of having their own site up would be done. It would just be a matter of rebuilding the SEO (no easy task, for sure). I, for one, feel more independent having it the way it is. But that doesn't mean if someone comes up with the model you are talking about that I wouldnt be interested. That's the freedom of being independent...we can put our images anywhere we want and still make 100% of the royalties.

« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2013, 14:27 »
+1
I'm preparing to create my symbio site, I want it to look neat so it will teak some time, but if all goes ok, it will add about 6000 pics to the network.

« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2013, 14:47 »
+1
And also, what you are suggesting Luis, sounds almost like another agency. If some people are responsible for working on the site and maintaining it, etc., next thing you know, a percentage of sales are going to be asked for to pay for that work. I think your key words that explain why SY is NOT what you are talking about are these: "we could come up all with an agreement and of course we would share expenses (hosting, domain, etc etc)". It might be very tough to come up with terms that everyone would agree on. SY is the best of both worlds.

no Cathleen I am not suggesting another agency, I just wish we could all join in one site and we would work together uploading and promoting, I haven't talked about royalties and such, I believe it is possible once SY seems to be made of a very good group of contributors, honest and hard working people so I don't think we would have much worries like ALL agencies deposit on us, anyway it was just an idea, we never thought a person would create SY so perfectly, like Leo said anything is possible :)

Ron

« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2013, 15:05 »
+1
You did say 'something like an agency', which will probably rise the hair on some people's backs as SY is created to get away from agencies  :)

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2013, 15:06 »
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Finally sy is a group project now and not just one person. Ajt for instance perfected network speed.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2013, 15:31 »
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I'm preparing to create my symbio site, I want it to look neat so it will teak some time, but if all goes ok, it will add about 6000 pics to the network.

Awesome!

« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2013, 15:30 »
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.com site is not working at all now...

« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2013, 15:35 »
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Nor is clipartillustration - been off all afternoon

« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2013, 15:36 »
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I have to admit I'm intrigued by the whole Sy thing, but for the time being I'm watching from the sidelines.  It looks like it's a fair amount of work for a payoff that, at the moment, isn't there yet... unless I'm missing something?  When the threads start popping up with people saying they're getting daily sales, I'll be motivated to jump in.  For now, I'll watch and wish everyone the best.

Ron

« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2013, 15:45 »
+1
I have to admit I'm intrigued by the whole Sy thing, but for the time being I'm watching from the sidelines.  It looks like it's a fair amount of work for a payoff that, at the moment, isn't there yet... unless I'm missing something?  When the threads start popping up with people saying they're getting daily sales, I'll be motivated to jump in.  For now, I'll watch and wish everyone the best.
It looks like a lot of work because there are so many sites being opened and people posting about everything. If I look at my own work, it took me a few good hours to set it up. But once its set up, its maintenance and uploading images. I think people that were engaged with the initial testing and bug fixing had indeed a lot of work to do. But if you step in now, its really quick and easy considering you can build a complete working website without any involvement of a web developer or having to have programming / coding skills. The more people join the network, the more chance of getting towards daily sales. If everybody watches from the side lines, the growth and momentum slows down. But I understand your point.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2013, 15:51 »
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AJT! Whats our current file count at?

« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2013, 16:05 »
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AJT! Whats our current file count at?

My search sais 31461, and network scanner 32643. There are still few sites with 24 bug, so there is a difference :)

« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2013, 00:25 »
+1
for people who still haven't decide to join, here a poll result of "Your Symbiostock Deployment Experience" from http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-hosting/my-site-symbiostock-(-works-doesn't-work-)-and-this-is-my-hosting-company/

From my experience, you don't need to know everything before you join, you will learn while you setting up your website :)

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2013, 03:40 »
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42,981 photos and illustrations.

Not bad!

Gotta love http://symbiostock.info/ for tracking this :D

« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2013, 04:13 »
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43,476 now :)

Ron

« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2013, 04:17 »
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I am adding images as we speak. I kept postponing it as I had to do SEO on all 280 images I had already published and couldnt get myself to sit down for it. But now I have, and I am not now adding the other 500. Ugh, cant wait for it to be complete. I can see hits on my images via google by the way.

Edit: typo not=NOW. I am adding images NOW  ;)
« Last Edit: June 30, 2013, 04:35 by Ron »

« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2013, 04:29 »
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I am adding images as we speak. I kept postponing it as I had to do SEO on all 280 images I had already published and couldnt get myself to sit down for it. But now I have, and I am not adding the other 500. Ugh, cant wait for it to be complete. I can see hits on my images via google by the way.

Same here. I have only 250 images online now. (still 3000 to go). I put some careful painful  ;) effort into SEO and I see results. Several google searches bring up my images on page one. Traffic from outside MSG is picking up accordingly. First sale seems to be just a matter of time. Can't wait, though  ;D

Ron

« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2013, 04:37 »
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I made a typo in my previous comment not=now


I have to say, I made a lot of mistakes when I see keywords and titles on my older images. I think it has definitely cost me sales on the agencies. The good thing about it is, that the titles are now so much better, it might actually benefit me now selling direct.

« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2013, 16:52 »
+2
57101 :)

« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2013, 00:55 »
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So if we all add about 20 more images each today we should break that barrier?  :)

EmberMike

« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2013, 10:23 »
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I'll be adding to that number shortly. Getting my site up and running hopefully by tonight.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2013, 16:46 »
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58957

and 52 Sites!

Ron

« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2013, 23:49 »
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54 sites   59483
;D

« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2013, 00:21 »
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I only see 50 sites amd some are old test sites -- what are the new sites?

Ron

« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2013, 00:40 »
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I only see 50 sites amd some are old test sites -- what are the new sites?
http://symbiostock.info/about/  :)

travelwitness

« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2013, 06:54 »
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64,570 now.

4k of those in the last week.

Ron

« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2013, 07:32 »
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64,570 now.

4k of those in the last week.


But they are all crap according to someone ;) http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131299&start=15

« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2013, 08:40 »
+2
That's only his opinion. Maybe he didn't spend enough time looking around. There are always going to be people criticizing, we might as well get used to it. I think your posting links to some of those excellent sites was the right thing to do. People will look and judge for themselves.

Besides, in marketing, negative publicity is just as good as positive publicity. It makes people look to see what everyone's talking about.  :)

travelwitness

« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2013, 10:46 »
+2
He has a point - it isn't easy to find what you want (for now) - but it doesn't matter at this stage.
All that's important is the image database is growing and the theme is stable and evolving into a viable platform for selling images.
When the database is big enough the search / hub sites should take care of finding the right image quickly. It will be a different ball game when that happens.
I would guess 70% - 80% of the entire micro market comes from the top 1000 contributors - if 500 adopted the Theme things could change dramatically.

Ron

« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2013, 10:51 »
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The point wasnt it not easy to find an image you want, but that all images are crap and that its hard to find a good one. But I am butting out of that thread, that guy is seriously nasty. Brrrr.

Sorry for taking this off topic.

ON: Why is the marketing tab in SYS lagging a few thousand images? 62,219 vs 64,570

« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2013, 11:38 »
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Besides, in marketing, negative publicity is just as good as positive publicity. It makes people look to see what everyone's talking about.  :)

So true.  If we can get people talking ( and looking) then we will create a buzz!!!... And I have no idea who he is and his credentials but he does come off like a pompus twit

travelwitness

« Reply #64 on: July 23, 2013, 04:40 »
+1
70327 images

69 sites

Growing at approx 7,000 per week.

Batman

« Reply #65 on: July 31, 2013, 19:20 »
+1

Besides, in marketing, negative publicity is just as good as positive publicity. It makes people look to see what everyone's talking about.  :)

So true.  If we can get people talking ( and looking) then we will create a buzz!!!... And I have no idea who he is and his credentials but he does come off like a pompus twit

Not like a pompus twit, he is and likes being that.

« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2013, 21:52 »
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passed 80,000 tonight on http://symbiostock-search.com

how long til 100K?

« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2013, 21:57 »
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passed 80,000 tonight on http://symbiostock-search.com

how long til 100K?


Well before September, that seems to be for sure. Let's chill the champagne  8)

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2013, 22:46 »
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If I happen to see this thread getting updated I'll keep updating the title with the new amount.

« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2013, 23:11 »
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passed 80,000 tonight on http://symbiostock-search.com

how long til 100K?


Bully!!

Well, I've got another 1,000+ to add to the 450 or so already up on my site. And I'm planning a long photo trip later this year, which will add even more to the number and variety. Doin' what I can to help. :-)

Symbiostock rocks.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2013, 23:15 »
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We missed the first goal. I say thats great. It just shows people are more interested in quality.

If we make it to 85,000 and the next 5k are super high quality, its an accomplishment :D still fun to watch though.

« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2013, 15:00 »
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I think it will take awhile to get to 100K, since the avg # of images is 1000, and half the sites have about 400 or less, so we'll need another 20 - 40 sites added.  (not that quantity is anything to encourage for its own sake, it's just an easy # to follow)

ShazamImages

  • ShazamImages.com
« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2013, 15:04 »
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58957
and 52 Sites!


passed 80,000 tonight on http://symbiostock-search.com


There have been over 20,000 images added in the past month.

If we extrapolate, that means there will be about 100,000 images around the first or second week of September.

« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2013, 15:05 »
+1
I am at around 400 right now but still have 3000 to add. Hope I manage to do 200 to 300 in August. My goal is to have 1000+ pics online by end of September.

« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2013, 23:59 »
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I just started with a very basic site look and about 30 online images. Still testing, finetuning, and learning.
Planning to add 1,000 images this month.

Don't underestimate the adoption speed and growth potential. The Symbiostock growth will be steep and exponential.
10,000 images in last two weeks vs 20,000 images added last month vs 65,000 images in previous 5 months.
I can see 120,000 images by end of August, and 250,000 by year end.

[Edited on Aug 15] At 300 images now
« Last Edit: August 15, 2013, 21:27 by LesPalenik »

ShazamImages

  • ShazamImages.com
« Reply #75 on: August 15, 2013, 18:21 »
+5
89 sites

and

91,154 images



 

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