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« on: June 15, 2013, 09:33 »
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First stable version (I hope so) is running here:

http://symbiostock.info

Every hour  if takes next site from the list, updated its images info, then searches for its network friends, and adds them to the list, if any new were found. If your site is running version 2.4.1 or earlier, there is a bug in theme code: images file can have only 24 images info (after daily update). To resolve this, you should update theme to current version, then wait for automatic daily update, or go to admin area, check "Update image info CSV" and Save. Then wait few hours, images should be found and indexed.

Now search works in this way:

"hot dog" will show only images having hot dog as single keyword.

hot dog will show images with hot dog as single keyword, then images with hot and dog as separate keywords.

There is no bread -> gingerbread, women->woman and similar yet.

Results from different sites are mixed randomly (every time images are refreshed, they get new random values, so order will change from time to time).

All images are displayed directly from your sites, when you click on them, you go to image page.

You can also add symbiostock.info as network site (needs 2.4.3 theme).


Please, report any problems, image missing, and search suggestions :)
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 09:43 by ajt »


« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 10:21 »
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That IS looking good, nice work

« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 17:29 »
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Wow

The images display in a single column for me.  Is that normal?

« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 19:53 »
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I get multiple pages of randomized images, as it's supposed to - keyword 'peru'

« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 02:37 »
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The images display in a single column for me.  Is that normal?

What browser are you using?
Someone else with this issue?

« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 08:16 »
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The images display in a single column for me.  Is that normal?

What browser are you using?
Someone else with this issue?

Chrome.... and after restarting Chrome for another issue all is good.... nice to know it was a problem at my end.

« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2013, 12:49 »
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I did a search of pomegranate, of which I have several shots with that keyword, and mine don't show up.  :(

« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2013, 12:55 »
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I did a search of pomegranate, of which I have several shots with that keyword, and mine don't show up.  :(

You have Symbio 2.4.1 with bug - only 24 images are in info csv file. Upgrade to current version, then wait for automatic daily update (or faster: go to Network, check "update public image info" and save).

« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2013, 13:09 »
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I did a search of pomegranate, of which I have several shots with that keyword, and mine don't show up.  :(

You have Symbio 2.4.1 with bug - only 24 images are in info csv file. Upgrade to current version, then wait for automatic daily update (or faster: go to Network, check "update public image info" and save).

OK did that...still nothing.

edit: never mind, they just showed up. Thanks ajt!

« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2013, 13:12 »
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I updated it manually, automatic update takes only one site per hour.

« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2013, 13:17 »
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I updated it manually, automatic update takes only one site per hour.

Thanks, that's awesome!

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2013, 13:19 »
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Loving the search engine ....

Two things ....

You should rip the minipics to be referenced locally. I think this should be a standard allowance for projects like this. Or maybe an option.

Give search field a classy modern look...

« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2013, 13:44 »
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You should rip the minipics to be referenced locally. I think this should be a standard allowance for projects like this. Or maybe an option.
You mean I should grab all thumbs and store them on my server? I'll think about it :)
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Give search field a classy modern look...

I'll try. Soon there will be "advanced search" too.

« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2013, 14:22 »
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You two guys are simply great! To me this looks like the start of the first fair AND competitive agency ever! Now we just need a common shopping basket/checkout and there is serious trouble for other agencies! :-)

« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2013, 15:02 »
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You two guys are simply great! To me this looks like the start of the first fair AND competitive agency ever! Now we just need a common shopping basket/checkout and there is serious trouble for other agencies! :-)

I agree 100% on all accounts. This is the best thing since sliced bread microstock has been invented.

Networking/Search is getting better with every update and upcoming hub site. Image buyers will be delighted.

The only major issue left that will cause image buyers to look somewhere else is the individual registration/cart/checkout for every single SY site.

« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2013, 15:43 »
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My site isn't on the list running on 2.4.4

Also none of my images are searchable

Can anyone help?

« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2013, 16:13 »
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My site isn't on the list running on 2.4.4

Also none of my images are searchable

Can anyone help?

Done :)

« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2013, 18:24 »
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The only major issue left that will cause image buyers to look somewhere else is the individual registration/cart/checkout for every single SY site.

And we know this how?

I agree that this MAY be an issue but until we start getting buyers we won't know for sure.

Are our buyers going to be people who want 1's or 2's of images or 10's and 20's

I suspect the former, since the big purchasers will want the discounts offered by the big stores, but I don't know.

We have built it, but we still don't know who, if or when they will come.

If we have a common check out then we need common pricing and common agreements and then people in charge and ....

« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2013, 23:32 »
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The only major issue left that will cause image buyers to look somewhere else is the individual registration/cart/checkout for every single SY site.

And we know this how?

I agree that this MAY be an issue but until we start getting buyers we won't know for sure.

Are our buyers going to be people who want 1's or 2's of images or 10's and 20's

I suspect the former, since the big purchasers will want the discounts offered by the big stores, but I don't know.

We have built it, but we still don't know who, if or when they will come.

If we have a common check out then we need common pricing and common agreements and then people in charge and ....

You're right. We can't know. I was guessing. If I was an image buyer wanting to buy more than just 1 image this would put me off for sure.

I don't see any reason why a common check out would require common pricing and/or common agreements (although this could be a plus for some buyers as well). Not sure if a common check out couldn't be implemented without anyone in charge. So, don't get me wrong here, I am all for the decentralized nature of SY and want to keep it. There might be still ways of ironing out some of the disadvantages this concept has for image buyers. Just like the Symbiostock search engine symbiostock.info (which we actually should discuss here) tries to offer a different/better way of searching the network for images.

Sorry for being so off-topic. We should start a separate threat to discuss common check out...

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2013, 00:06 »
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Its not entirely off topic. What you have here is Symbiostock's first few search engines sprouting. Now your wondering if you can make things easier for the customer. This is hardly a difficult problem. Networking tons of sites over low cost hosting is a hard problem ----- thats been solved. Setting up a centrally honored payment system is not hard. The question is who can stand for it?

As you might know I'm done working for free now as I hope everyone involved is - so if we want to focus on those things I'll make a thread.


jareso

  • Boris Jaroscak
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2013, 01:45 »
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I would prefer if there was also check box to run searching by count of downloads.
+ Count of downloads shown under preview images.

So it will be easy to see how sales are going in Symbiostock network.

« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2013, 15:50 »
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I would prefer if there was also check box to run searching by count of downloads.
+ Count of downloads shown under preview images.

Good idea :)

But now only few improvements:
- site names have clickable numbers of indexed images,
- you can enter into search box site address and your name.

« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2013, 16:13 »
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I would prefer if there was also check box to run searching by count of downloads.
+ Count of downloads shown under preview images.

So it will be easy to see how sales are going in Symbiostock network.

Maybe for us to see in the back end as totals, but not for clients , let them pick the best for them not just the most popular as many seem to do elsewhere

« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2013, 16:25 »
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That search engine is looking very good! What's your logic for best match?

« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2013, 16:39 »
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That search engine is looking very good! What's your logic for best match?

Now it is simple. When you enter phrase having two or more words, first go images with that phrase as single keyword or title, then images with all words as separate keywords. Images are sorted randomly to avoid grouping results from one site (random numbers are generated when images are indexed or updated in database). And images with huge number of keywords are pushed down.


 

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