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SA

« on: May 29, 2012, 03:08 »
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Wim

« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 03:34 »
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Low activity (views) but a good amount of high credit sales (no subs) and almost daily.
I've moved back in search but it doesn't seem to affect my sales much, on the contrary.
Maybe buyers that dig deeper into the pile are the ones buying via credits, not subs ;)

Good luck mate!
« Last Edit: May 29, 2012, 04:09 by Wim »

« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 04:13 »
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Dreamstime consistently for me goes in cycles no or low downloads for a couple of days then a couple of days of good sales. Seems like they cycle the best match positions around.

This month is lower than last few but within the limit of what I was consider normal

« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 04:14 »
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Hi. I haven't had a single download in over 2 weeks. I heard there was something messed up with the search results so other images got in front of the buyers. Is this fixed now? Im having no activity at all over there? How is is for you?
The fact that your images aren't at the front of the search doesn't mean that the search is necessarily messed, just changed.  As long as a selection of new and proved images are getting seen then the search is still good.   What I am finding is that I am making 5 times more some days than others.   Seems very erratic as if they are changing the results every few days (which Serban hinted at in the forums).  I suppose this gives a lot more people a crack at getting some good sales instead of always having exactly the same images at the front of the search.   My earnings are down overall this month because of the not so good days but I still can't say that the search is messed, just different.

« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 04:15 »
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Dreamstime consistently for me goes in cycles no or low downloads for a couple of days then a couple of days of good sales. Seems like they cycle the best match positions around.

This month is lower than last few but within the limit of what I was consider normal
Yes, exactly what I was saying.

grafix04

« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 05:42 »
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I'm having a BME there but I'm still going to leave them if they don't get rid of that Pinterest button.

lisafx

« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 11:42 »
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This month is lower than last few but within the limit of what I was consider normal

That exactly describes my sales there too.  Down a bit, but within normal range. 

« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 12:17 »
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I'm having a BME there but I'm still going to leave them if they don't get rid of that Pinterest button.

on a BME too (low numbers) and I see less sales but a lot more credits (my RPD went from 0.80 to 1.3)

WarrenPrice

« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 18:46 »
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I'm having a BME there but I'm still going to leave them if they don't get rid of that Pinterest button.

on a BME too (low numbers) and I see less sales but a lot more credits (my RPD went from 0.80 to 1.3)

Mine went from $2.10 to $0.54 ...

« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 01:14 »
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Really? My RPD the last 3 months is: $1.65, $2.65, $2.55. What levels are your images? The money starts to get made at Level 3+.

Wim

« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2012, 01:38 »
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RPD March = 1,09$
RPD April = 0,75$ (worst month of the year for me)
RPD May = 2,34$

so way up here

« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2012, 04:01 »
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I'm on target for a pretty good month too, probably the 3rd highest in the last 12 months. I'm selling fewer images but RPD has shot up to $2.48 from an average, over the last 12 months, of $1.87. I haven't uploaded to DT for over a year either so maybe that's the secret!

« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2012, 04:54 »
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BME for me  ;D

wut

« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 08:23 »
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)

« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2012, 08:50 »
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)

Maybe it's because they're the subject of the acquisition mentioned by SS.

wut

« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2012, 08:58 »
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)

Maybe it's because they're the subject of the acquisition mentioned by SS.

So what would that mean? SS would become fully sub site, DT would become fully credit? Or would DT represent "a premium, higher priced collection"? Somehow that doesn't make much sense, since SS rolled out so many higher priced products (ways of licencing images) lately (SOD and many other, selling in the range of something over 4$ up to 90$)

However it does answer the "no IPO" question.

« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2012, 09:28 »
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So what would that mean? SS would become fully sub site, DT would become fully credit? Or would DT represent "a premium, higher priced collection"? Somehow that doesn't make much sense, since SS rolled out so many higher priced products (ways of licencing images) lately (SOD and many other, selling in the range of something over 4$ up to 90$)

However it does answer the "no IPO" question.

It would simply mean that SS gained a larger share of the overall market. Different agencies appeal to different customers so SS wouldn't necessarily need to change anything. They've not changed much to BigStock.

« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2012, 09:44 »
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As my return to DT was relatively recent (June 2011),  my portfolio is still relatively bottom heavy (lots of uploads and not so many level 3 and up images).

My RPD has been climbing with their recent changes, but not enough to offset the decreased downloads. So the net is that I see this as a loss, not a gain.

For example, in March, my RPD was $1.11 and this month it's $1.77, but I had nearly twice as many downloads in March as May, so the net is a lower total for May.

November had an RPD of 98 cents, but beat the pants off every month this year.

I'd love to see a survey showing what buyers think of this enormously complex pricing scheme at DT

WarrenPrice

« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2012, 11:37 »
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Really? My RPD the last 3 months is: $1.65, $2.65, $2.55. What levels are your images? The money starts to get made at Level 3+.

I'm not sure if this was aimed at me?  If so, my highest level images are 4.  That comes into play only slightly, however.  Very few sales, period.  And, 8 of 10 are subs.

I'm sure it will get better; As many have noted -- it is cyclical -- changing search priorities seem to make the difference.

« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2012, 12:02 »
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Really? My RPD the last 3 months is: $1.65, $2.65, $2.55. What levels are your images? The money starts to get made at Level 3+.

my best seller level 5 have 28 sales and last time sold was on March 7th.. I guess that shows how high levels are selling for me..

grafix04

« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2012, 12:23 »
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)

I agree,  I previously mentioned that all this fiddling with the best match and levels makes me think they're desperate and have possibly run into a bit of financial trouble. 

My RPD jumped from $2.51 in April to $3.85 in May.  I have a BME in revenue, downloads and RPD which is great but I don't want to get too comfortable just yet.  I have a feeling that buyers are still in that 'I can't be bothered moving right now' phase.  The system was complex and pricey even before the last change.  It was a bold, risky move fiddling with the levels to dupe buyers and eventually, I believe, it will backfire.  I have a feeling buyers are still buying, using up their credits while deciding which other agent to replace them with.  It shouldn't be too hard as almost every agent out there will give them a better deal. 

« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2012, 14:59 »
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Sounds like they've been reading the istock playbook.  :o

rinderart

« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2012, 15:58 »
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Nose dive for me. Been there since day one.

« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2012, 16:32 »
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15 credits (2010)         $5.19         large (RF) (level 4)
25 credits (2010)         $5.85         maximum (U-EL) (level 2)

da*m on the discounts

« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 17:40 »
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As my return to DT was relatively recent (June 2011),  my portfolio is still relatively bottom heavy (lots of uploads and not so many level 3 and up images).

My RPD has been climbing with their recent changes, but not enough to offset the decreased downloads. So the net is that I see this as a loss, not a gain.

For example, in March, my RPD was $1.11 and this month it's $1.77, but I had nearly twice as many downloads in March as May, so the net is a lower total for May.

November had an RPD of 98 cents, but beat the pants off every month this year.

I'd love to see a survey showing what buyers think of this enormously complex pricing scheme at DT

Never looked from a buyers perspective but, if anything like commissions, yes, bound to be off-putting.   I dont have the volumes to make any real judgement but I tend to be unaffected by search algorithm changes and my gut feel is they are simply moving much less product and the higher price is not enough to compensate.


 

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