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Author Topic: on DT Delete images over 4 years or give them away?  (Read 19436 times)

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« on: April 24, 2013, 07:14 »
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If you have been on DT for 4 or more years I'm sure you have images over 4 years that have never sold. DT will ask you to pay to have them Re keyworded or give them away for free or delete them from DT.

My choice is to delete then as I can see no profit from giving them away.

I guess DT does this to make room for new images ...... But if the were good enough to be approved in the beginning .... Why delete or give them away Now??

If after 4 years they (DT) feels the images are not going to sell ... I can see their point somewhat. But they are wrong about never selling as I have the same images and 1500 more on BigStockPhoto and I have images 4-5-6- years old being sold for the first time every month.

So my question is: What do you do about this (if your a DT member) and why?

Regards,
Larry


Dan

« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 07:20 »
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     I  would  think  about  re-key  wording  or  delete  them.  Never  for  FREE.

« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 07:25 »
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Do not give them away. I haven't seen one single post where someone has said that giving your images away for free has helped increase their revenue. And from my point of view, it helps further cheapen microstock.  Agencies may claim that they bait in new buyers with these images, but I say, if that's the case you can budget in money to create a pool of images so each time one is taken we contributors get paid UNDISCOUNTED commissions.  Agencies could hook buyers (if free images really attract new buyers as some agencies claim) far easier if they highlighted a hand picked pool of images from their collection and put their best in front of potential buyers (the free section).  Agencies don't want to take that risk that new revenue won't be realized so they place all the risk on the contributor and use the "it helps you" hook.  In my personal experience, it doesn't help me one iota.

« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 07:27 »
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Never for free, too. I deleted  them.

ShadySue

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 07:29 »
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I'm not a DT member, but there's no way I would have a random commercial company using an image I'd taken for free.
In any case, what's the point in the agancy deleting an image. Last week I had the first download of a file uploaded two weeks short of four years ago net me $7.31.

(The picture was taken locally and is not available anywhere else I've looked, and unlikely to be anywhere at all.)
Also, if a subject is in low demand/low supply, what's the point in not having an image of it available, otherwise the buyer who needs the image has to go elsewhere, and might decide that the new site has a more comprehensive collection, so that's a buyer lost.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 07:42 by ShadySue »

« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 07:37 »
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I always delete them.  DT tries to keep a clean database by getting rid of old non-sellers.  It's annoying to delete images that have been through review and that sell at least occasionally elsewhere, but with few exceptions my non-sellers on DT are not that great.  If getting rid of them helps keep the database lean, mean and more appealing to DT buyers then I'm all for it.  But I don't see the point in giving them away, especially since they are still available for sale elsewhere - once potential buyers get images for free they will think that they should get all images the same way, which is not the direction we want.

« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 08:02 »
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They took away the option of having them re-keyworded. When they had the option I paid the 60 cents a couple of times, on images which were selling elsewhere. Since then one of those images so far has had a couple of downloads bringing me $1.66. I'm not sure why they took that option away, seems like they're really trying to push their free image site. I don't get sites which push free images hard. I think they believe they can have a good turnaround of converting people looking for free images to paying customers. Serious buyers wouldn't be looking for free images anyway, why don't they spend more effort on getting serious buyers?

« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 08:38 »
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Always Delete!

Our images are cheap enough as it is!

« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 08:41 »
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delete delete delete

« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2013, 08:51 »
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delete delete delete

same here

« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2013, 10:22 »
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As I left DT when I became IS exclusive and returned in June 2011, none of my images are more than 4 years "old" (they might have been taken from 2004 on, but were made new again :))

I would never allow them to become free images, so I'd disable them. DT can spin it however they like, but if they have failed to sell an image that is for sale on other agencies, that's their problem, not mine and I wouldn't undercut sales elsewhere by letting them give it away.

« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2013, 10:29 »
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delete delete delete

Is the correct answer.

« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2013, 10:36 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 14:16 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2013, 13:43 »
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Never give away images for free. Especially not images that are for sale somewhere else.

Delete them.

« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2013, 14:18 »
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No free images ever.  Delete them all.

« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2013, 14:32 »
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No free images ever.  Delete them all.

Absolutely agree!

« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2013, 19:39 »
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Delete.   

Some of these agency people think we're as dumb as doorknobs - telling us how free images will promote our portfolios.  Give me a break, guys.  Just go back to hiding all the profit in up-front subscription fees, at least I can pretend not to understand that one.



Dan

« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2013, 06:59 »
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     If  they  took  away  the  option  to  re key word  then  delete  and  find  somewhere  else  for  it.  They  rejected  my  best  seller  so  their  lost - my  gain.

« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2013, 07:42 »
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I always delete. I see nothing to be gained by giving them away for free.

As I started on Dreamstime around October 2008, I am since a few months in the timeframe where the first of my non-sellers start to hit the four year timeline. Some interesting things I have noticed: The notification / deletion process seems to be not working all of the time, so now I have some non-sellers that are older than four years still active in my account (I don't care, let's keep them online...).
And: on a few occasions a file of mine had it's first sale just when it was in the "notifying period" (so it was listed under "oldfiles" with less then 30 days remaining time on DT). Just shows that even old files will sell once in a while...

« Last Edit: April 25, 2013, 13:51 by dirkr »

ShadySue

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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2013, 07:48 »
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As I started on Dreamstime around October 2012, I am since a few months in the timeframe where the first of my non-sellers start to hit the four year timeline.
Dreamstime must use a different arithmetical system than the rest of the world.  ;)
« Last Edit: April 25, 2013, 08:59 by ShadySue »

fritz

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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2013, 08:13 »
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Nothing for free! I deleted  them.

« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2013, 09:12 »
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delete

« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2013, 13:47 »
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So who is it that gives these images away?

« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2013, 13:52 »
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As I started on Dreamstime around October 2012, I am since a few months in the timeframe where the first of my non-sellers start to hit the four year timeline.
Dreamstime must use a different arithmetical system than the rest of the world.  ;)

Oh thanks. Nice typo. Obviously I meant 2008. No idea why I didn't write it...

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2013, 13:54 »
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As I started on Dreamstime around October 2012, I am since a few months in the timeframe where the first of my non-sellers start to hit the four year timeline.
Dreamstime must use a different arithmetical system than the rest of the world.  ;)

Oh thanks. Nice typo. Obviously I meant 2008. No idea why I didn't write it...
Don't worry. I'm the typo queen and you're nowhere near stealing my crown.


 

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