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« Reply #125 on: October 23, 2022, 04:43 »
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All you need is a single 28 sale to earn more than what you get for 3 years in the free collection.
And we will sell it for $28, and we will get $8 for participation in the program. One does not interfere. Plus advertising portfolio.

What are you talking about? Once you lock your clips in the free section, you cannot sell it for $28 anymore for at least 1 year.

There is no evidence that enabling free assets results in more sales of your regular portfolio. MAYBE some customers purchase other clips, but not necessarily from YOUR portfolio. So the only real winner here is Adobe, not the individual artist.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2022, 04:46 by Noedelhap »


« Reply #126 on: October 23, 2022, 07:01 »
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All you need is a single 28 sale to earn more than what you get for 3 years in the free collection.
And we will sell it for $28, and we will get $8 for participation in the program. One does not interfere. Plus advertising portfolio.

What are you talking about? Once you lock your clips in the free section, you cannot sell it for $28 anymore for at least 1 year.

There is no evidence that enabling free assets results in more sales of your regular portfolio. MAYBE some customers purchase other clips, but not necessarily from YOUR portfolio. So the only real winner here is Adobe, not the individual artist.
"Can Adobe offer Free collection content in paid offerings?
Yes - content in the free collection can be offered by Adobe to customers for free or for a fee (e.g., as part of a subscription or enterprise contract). "

In any case, it means that I will sell this video on other stocks. This video hasn't been sold on adobe for a year, do you understand that?
As for advertising my portfolio, I don't mind if buyers go into my portfolio and see what I have there. Let them go more into my portfolio than into the portfolio of those who do not participate in this program.  8)

« Reply #127 on: October 23, 2022, 07:03 »
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Lol
I am also glad that almost all the participants of this forum will not give their video to the free collection.  8)
Lol

« Reply #128 on: October 23, 2022, 07:25 »
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Either way, participating in the free program will bring more existing buyers to my portfolio. And this is the main point!
And even if not, $8 for a lot of videos is a very profitable option. I agree to give Adobe half of my portfolio for $1 even.
Why don't you write Adobe your concept simply giving away your portfolio for 1$ each clip? You're so sure that this will bring you many people to look at your full port to buy more clips.
These idea seems... Let me think... It's quite near the famous "great news" we had in the past from several agencies:
"we will pay less, but you will have much more sales"
"we will pay less but you will gain a new market slice"
"we will pay less but your portfolio will gain great visibility"

Of course none of these happened to anyone.
It's like a broken record but despite this after years of experiences someone seems still to believe this.

Once again, Adobe seems to me fair and good with contributors, so I'm not talking to them. I'm talking to you. It seems you're just arrived from Mars.

Listen to me, send your port to Adobe for 1$, no one will know, but trying to convince other experienced contributors it's hard (and useless) way to go

« Reply #129 on: October 23, 2022, 10:05 »
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derby, I'm not convincing anyone here. I answer questions and write my opinion. The topic was opened by adobe representatives and they are also in it, why should I write to them when they already read everything.
I have many thousands of videos in my portfolios, of course, even for $ 1 it will be a huge amount.
Read me more carefully, I already wrote that I get the main income from agencies that sell my videos almost for free, for a few cents. And I don't have to believe it, it's a reality that has been around for many years.

f8

« Reply #130 on: October 23, 2022, 10:06 »
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derby, I'm not convincing anyone here. I answer questions and write my opinion. The topic was opened by adobe representatives and they are also in it, why should I write to them when they already read everything.
I have many thousands of videos in my portfolios, of course, even for $ 1 it will be a huge amount.
Read me more carefully, I already wrote that I get the main income from agencies that sell my videos almost for free, for a few cents. And I don't have to believe it, it's a reality that has been around for many years.

You have cured my insomnia. Thank you.

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« Reply #131 on: October 23, 2022, 10:36 »
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All you need is a single 28 sale to earn more than what you get for 3 years in the free collection.
And we will sell it for $28, and we will get $8 for participation in the program. One does not interfere. Plus advertising portfolio.

What are you talking about? Once you lock your clips in the free section, you cannot sell it for $28 anymore for at least 1 year.

There is no evidence that enabling free assets results in more sales of your regular portfolio. MAYBE some customers purchase other clips, but not necessarily from YOUR portfolio. So the only real winner here is Adobe, not the individual artist.
"Can Adobe offer Free collection content in paid offerings?
Yes - content in the free collection can be offered by Adobe to customers for free or for a fee (e.g., as part of a subscription or enterprise contract). "

In any case, it means that I will sell this video on other stocks. This video hasn't been sold on adobe for a year, do you understand that?
As for advertising my portfolio, I don't mind if buyers go into my portfolio and see what I have there. Let them go more into my portfolio than into the portfolio of those who do not participate in this program.  8)

You really need to read things through thoroughly... i.e. you might want to read the section directly after that!

"You will receive an upfront payment within 30 days after the start of each 12-month period where your content is in the free collection. Content in the free collection will not receive any additional royalties beyond the upfront payment".

i.e. it may be offered by Adobe to customers for free or for a fee, but you're not getting any of that fee!


« Reply #132 on: October 23, 2022, 10:36 »
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All you need is a single 28 sale to earn more than what you get for 3 years in the free collection.
And we will sell it for $28, and we will get $8 for participation in the program. One does not interfere. Plus advertising portfolio.

What are you talking about? Once you lock your clips in the free section, you cannot sell it for $28 anymore for at least 1 year.

There is no evidence that enabling free assets results in more sales of your regular portfolio. MAYBE some customers purchase other clips, but not necessarily from YOUR portfolio. So the only real winner here is Adobe, not the individual artist.
"Can Adobe offer Free collection content in paid offerings?
Yes - content in the free collection can be offered by Adobe to customers for free or for a fee (e.g., as part of a subscription or enterprise contract). "

This simply means THEY can monetize the free content, not you. You will only get $8 for the whole year.

« Reply #133 on: October 23, 2022, 15:53 »
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This simply means THEY can monetize the free content, not you. You will only get $8 for the whole year.
ok.
I already wrote that this video will be sold in other agencies.
On adobe, anyway, this video was not sold for a whole year. And adobe will pay $8 for it.

« Reply #134 on: October 26, 2022, 15:20 »
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They asked for vertical videos claiming they are in high demand. So, I uploaded 100 vertical background animations on July 2022.
Now, in October, most of my vertical videos were selected for the free collection. It doesn't make sense!
They also selected other 997 videos that are in high demand across the other agencies. Many of them have 1, 2 or more downloads at Adobe Stock itself.

Not for me this offer, thanks !


« Reply #135 on: October 27, 2022, 02:10 »
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They also selected other 997 videos
You have a good video, it seems that no one has taken so much from anyone.
I would like to see your portfolio.

« Reply #136 on: October 27, 2022, 02:54 »
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« Reply #137 on: October 27, 2022, 08:29 »
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They asked for vertical videos claiming they are in high demand. So, I uploaded 100 vertical background animations on July 2022.
Now, in October, most of my vertical videos were selected for the free collection. It doesn't make sense!
They also selected other 997 videos that are in high demand across the other agencies. Many of them have 1, 2 or more downloads at Adobe Stock itself.

Not for me this offer, thanks !

To me it sounded more like that social network vertical stuff is in demand, I don't know, some kind of premade generic reels for "fake" social accounts to use and gain following, rather than animated backgrounds. Not trying to be smart here, just thinking out loud.

« Reply #138 on: October 27, 2022, 10:54 »
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Hi Everyone,

Heads up! Videos will be eligible for nomination into the Adobe Stock Free collection starting tomorrow (Tuesday, October 11). An email with detailed information will be sent to those of you with eligible content, tomorrow morning (PDT). Check your inbox then, and let me know if you have any questions after you read it.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Hello Mat,

I was wondering if there are any "statistics" from the impact the free image collection had/have regarding attracting new buyers?
We can all share our own experiences, but is there any official statement from Adobe?

Is the expanding of the free collection to videos result of a success in getting more photo-buyers, or is Adobe just "following the flow", afraid of loosing the clients it already have?

« Reply #139 on: October 27, 2022, 12:16 »
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Hi Everyone,

Heads up! Videos will be eligible for nomination into the Adobe Stock Free collection starting tomorrow (Tuesday, October 11). An email with detailed information will be sent to those of you with eligible content, tomorrow morning (PDT). Check your inbox then, and let me know if you have any questions after you read it.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Hello Mat,

I was wondering if there are any "statistics" from the impact the free image collection had/have regarding attracting new buyers?
We can all share our own experiences, but is there any official statement from Adobe?

Is the expanding of the free collection to videos result of a success in getting more photo-buyers, or is Adobe just "following the flow", afraid of loosing the clients it already have?

Thanks for the question @KoKi. I don't have any statistics to share with you. The program is designed to attract new buyers with and it is working.

As a reminder, please make your final decision on video nominations today. The option to nominate, or remove nomination will close tomorrow. I expect the final decisions and payments will not be complete until near the end of November, so thank you in advance for your patience as the process continues.

Thanks very much to all of you for your participation so far. Without you, there is no us.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #140 on: October 27, 2022, 14:07 »
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Hi Everyone,

Heads up! Videos will be eligible for nomination into the Adobe Stock Free collection starting tomorrow (Tuesday, October 11). An email with detailed information will be sent to those of you with eligible content, tomorrow morning (PDT). Check your inbox then, and let me know if you have any questions after you read it.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Hello Mat,

I was wondering if there are any "statistics" from the impact the free image collection had/have regarding attracting new buyers?
We can all share our own experiences, but is there any official statement from Adobe?

Is the expanding of the free collection to videos result of a success in getting more photo-buyers, or is Adobe just "following the flow", afraid of loosing the clients it already have?

Thanks for the question @KoKi. I don't have any statistics to share with you. The program is designed to attract new buyers with and it is working.

As a reminder, please make your final decision on video nominations today. The option to nominate, or remove nomination will close tomorrow. I expect the final decisions and payments will not be complete until near the end of November, so thank you in advance for your patience as the process continues.

Thanks very much to all of you for your participation so far. Without you, there is no us.

-Mat Hayward

If you have info saying that it attracts new customers, it will be nice to know if it attracts really new customers, or rather customers from other platforms (or the ratio between these 2 categories).

Because while the second case might be great for AS, it might not be so great for its contributors => robbing Peter to pay Paul (or worse).

Sharing some facts could help you and AS addressing the push back seen on this thread.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2022, 14:15 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #141 on: October 27, 2022, 14:26 »
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If you have info saying that it attracts new customers, it will be nice to know if it attracts really new customers, or rather customers from other platforms (or the ratio between these 2 categories).
Who cares. I don't care where the buyer comes from in my portfolio.

« Reply #142 on: October 28, 2022, 01:28 »
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« Reply #143 on: October 28, 2022, 03:05 »
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Bets are made. The time for reflection has expired. Who agreed, he agreed and did the right thing. Who did not agree to the exit. Both selection and deselection are no longer possible.

« Reply #144 on: October 28, 2022, 03:12 »
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If you have info saying that it attracts new customers, it will be nice to know if it attracts really new customers, or rather customers from other platforms (or the ratio between these 2 categories).
Who cares. I don't care where the buyer comes from in my portfolio.
:o this is embarrassing. You didn't even understand what you were signing up for/ read the terms. You aren't reading people's posts before replying either. You might care to know if you are getting more cash or a if a "new" buyer has just switched over from an agency that pays you better. Why wouldn't you.

« Reply #145 on: October 28, 2022, 03:23 »
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Justanotherphotographer, on adobe normal prices for videos. The income of the author from the sale of videos is very often more than on shutterstock. Adobe is the only stock that still pays authors well. Therefore, the arrival of a buyer from any stock agency in my adobe portfolio will only increase my income. And it's strange that you don't understand elementary mathematics.
 But for me, this is not even the main thing, I believe that the more videos they buy from me, the higher the rating of my portfolio will be, and the more income. The question of price has never been the main one for me, I have always believed that the lower the prices, the more sales and the more income. And as time has shown, it is. You are a dinosaur who thinks in ideas that are long dead.

« Reply #146 on: October 28, 2022, 05:19 »
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... The question of price has never been the main one for me, I have always believed that the lower the prices, the more sales and the more income. And as time has shown, it is. You are a dinosaur who thinks in ideas that are long dead.

Sorry, your attitude is not a new one. It has been around since day one of microstock. As long as agencies have been trying to exploit us and our work. I actually dont know how long you have been doing this but I have been at it a while. Long enough to have seen many, many people with the same attitude as you. None of them stay in the business more than a few years, or they change their attitude and learn to value their work. I know I cant convince you, I couldnt convince any of the others either.

« Reply #147 on: October 28, 2022, 07:39 »
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... The question of price has never been the main one for me, I have always believed that the lower the prices, the more sales and the more income. And as time has shown, it is. You are a dinosaur who thinks in ideas that are long dead.

Sorry, your attitude is not a new one. It has been around since day one of microstock. As long as agencies have been trying to exploit us and our work. I actually dont know how long you have been doing this but I have been at it a while. Long enough to have seen many, many people with the same attitude as you. None of them stay in the business more than a few years, or they change their attitude and learn to value their work. I know I cant convince you, I couldnt convince any of the others either.
I have been uploading videos to stock sites for over 10 years. And I am open to new offers that bring a stable income. The answer to your questions is here, this is already a statistic that has been around for several years.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/37398/37398/msg581167/#msg581167

wds

« Reply #148 on: October 28, 2022, 07:59 »
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Justanotherphotographer, on adobe normal prices for videos. The income of the author from the sale of videos is very often more than on shutterstock. Adobe is the only stock that still pays authors well. Therefore, the arrival of a buyer from any stock agency in my adobe portfolio will only increase my income. And it's strange that you don't understand elementary mathematics.
 But for me, this is not even the main thing, I believe that the more videos they buy from me, the higher the rating of my portfolio will be, and the more income. The question of price has never been the main one for me, I have always believed that the lower the prices, the more sales and the more income. And as time has shown, it is. You are a dinosaur who thinks in ideas that are long dead.

Not sure I follow your logic regarding prices. Yes, lower prices lead to more sales. The problem is if the price was zero, there would be no income. So logically, there must be a curve that would perhaps show that lowering prices could lead to more sales and income, but at some point when the prices become too low, the contributors income will trend toward zero. I think that many contributors experience shows that we are in the down part of that curve.

« Reply #149 on: October 28, 2022, 08:18 »
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Not sure I follow your logic regarding prices. Yes, lower prices lead to more sales. The problem is if the price was zero, there would be no income. So logically, there must be a curve that would perhaps show that lowering prices could lead to more sales and income, but at some point when the prices become too low, the contributors income will trend toward zero. I think that many contributors experience shows that we are in the down part of that curve.

The gains are also very short term as there isn't a bottomless number of buyers. The first few people to sell their work for pennies rake it in for a short time on these sites until enough people join dilute the earnings pool. In the case of Freepik, for example, the contributor then realises giving work to people who don't think it has value also has additional drawbacks...


 

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