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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2023, 07:41 »
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What the customers buy is favored. As it should be.

Have ever seen bestselling images from the real world in stock?

Usually it is all fake smiles and thumbs up.

And that brings in the money.


« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2023, 08:31 »
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...Which then begs the question how is this shower of sit possible ...

... not only is the image nonsense ... there is a lot of nonsese permitted ... no rejection for similar Matt???
...

I have a collection of examples of massively repetitive similars from genAI images approved in the last week or two.

It's not just a few times it happens. It's many more than 5 or 6 similars.

Even when the images are not "mistakes", when a photographer gets a rejection for similars when there are only 2 or 3 alike, it seems absolutely clear that there's a completely different rule book for the genAI submissions

Here are just a handful from those I've seen
35 yellow suitcases

79 overhead shots of peaches (there are some pie shots I couldn't exclude because the keywords are spammed)

129 sunset on a beach with palm trees

220+ marble wave abstracts

I know Jo. It's tragic. But if you're in the market for Pintomatapples, avocana Orangebeets, or a dear child wielding a monkey paw clutching a Qwetty keybone then look no further than Adobe house of hilarity.

« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2023, 11:09 »
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Adobe should have a clear disclaimer on every page:

"AI generated imagery can possibly contain:
- unnatural limbs or lack thereof
- non-existing species or inaccurate depictions thereof
- proportions or dimensions that do not accurately represent real-life subjects
AI images should not be used for scientific subjects or representations of sensivitive subjects. You as a buyer are solely resonsible for any consequences as a result of wrongful use of these images."

« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2023, 19:52 »
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...I know Jo. It's tragic. But if you're in the market for Pintomatapples, avocana Orangebeets, or a dear child wielding a monkey paw clutching a Qwetty keybone then look no further than Adobe house of hilarity.

I thought I'd put Firefly beta to work - you might be onto a really hot new market segment there :) Click for larger size


« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2023, 23:47 »
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...I know Jo. It's tragic. But if you're in the market for Pintomatapples, avocana Orangebeets, or a dear child wielding a monkey paw clutching a Qwetty keybone then look no further than Adobe house of hilarity.

I thought I'd put Firefly beta to work - you might be onto a really hot new market segment there :) Click for larger size



🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣  You've turned it on itself 😲😲😲 careful Jo ... we don't want this to happen ...



Jo Ann Snover?

😳 Yes ....

« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2023, 10:08 »
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OK folks today's lucky finds begin with lady with cracked heals. Who appears to have solved the pain of cracked heals by putting her hands and toes into a car door whilst someone repeatedly slammed it shut. Looks like she split a nail because some bright yellow puss is leaking into shot

Then we have pretty flower feet and a rather nasty case of hammer toe

Trip out the the country where we spend a lovely autumnal evening gathering Horse Chesconkercherries and some P. Never forget your P when making a chesconkercherry coating

Finally "We began with prawn and an avocado lemon squeezer"and awoke to find the paramedic performing an ermegency colonoscopy to remove the alien tapeworm that had survived the cooking process.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2023, 10:12 by Lowls »

« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2023, 02:40 »
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Finally "We began with prawn and an avocado lemon squeezer"and awoke to find the paramedic performing an ermegency colonoscopy to remove the alien tapeworm that had survived the cooking process.

Not that just the very idea of putting PRAWN in a cocktail wasn't already highly questionable.

« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2023, 05:45 »
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Finally "We began with prawn and an avocado lemon squeezer"and awoke to find the paramedic performing an ermegency colonoscopy to remove the alien tapeworm that had survived the cooking process.

Not that just the very idea of putting PRAWN in a cocktail wasn't already highly questionable.

Prawn cocktail was a very popular starter in the UK in the 70s. Small prawns mixed with rose marie sauce or thousand island dressing. Then a large wine glass was layered with lettuce and the prawn mix layered in and finished off with a pinch of cress and a lemon slice. The top then dusted with paprika for colour. Unless you knew that already some may or may not.

The A.I. however had created something horrifically different lol. gag worthy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPYgw0wX4AAlBSW.jpg
« Last Edit: July 05, 2023, 05:48 by Lowls »

« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2023, 06:30 »
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Prawn cocktail was a very popular starter in the UK in the 70s. Small prawns mixed with rose marie sauce or thousand island dressing. Then a large wine glass was layered with lettuce and the prawn mix layered in and finished off with a pinch of cress and a lemon slice. The top then dusted with paprika for colour. Unless you knew that already some may or may not.

The A.I. however had created something horrifically different lol. gag worthy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPYgw0wX4AAlBSW.jpg

No, I didn't know that. But it sounds gag worthy to me too, to be honest.  :o

« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2023, 09:13 »
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Prawn cocktail was a very popular starter in the UK in the 70s. Small prawns mixed with rose marie sauce or thousand island dressing. Then a large wine glass was layered with lettuce and the prawn mix layered in and finished off with a pinch of cress and a lemon slice. The top then dusted with paprika for colour. Unless you knew that already some may or may not.

The A.I. however had created something horrifically different lol. gag worthy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPYgw0wX4AAlBSW.jpg

No, I didn't know that. But it sounds gag worthy to me too, to be honest.  :o

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣  brilliant. Later they replaced the wine glass with an avocado to make avocado prawn. Was very posh if you were working class. I can remember my mum ordering one and well all ghasped at the splendor of it on our last meal of the holiday.

On the car journey home we must have pulled off every slipway and side road as she had it coming out of both ends. She never touched prawns again lol. I however still continued until I watched a documentary on where most prawns come from. Its a real eye opener and if you do watch it be warned you are very unlikely to ever eat another prawn ... up to you ... 😊...

https://youtube.com/shorts/8Xu-4PUI1AU?feature=share4

and

https://youtu.be/UxlkTk2w7BU

« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2023, 00:30 »
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What the customers buy is favored. As it should be.

Have ever seen bestselling images from the real world in stock?

Usually it is all fake smiles and thumbs up.

And that brings in the money.

If it is so....why don't you do it ? Why don't you create bestselling images from the real world in stock?
Why do you take instagram/fb/social media quality photos of your breakfast/dinner/lunch ?  8)

« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2023, 01:44 »
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Because it makes a lot of very reliable money and I can keep inviting friends out :) It is the real world part of my port

Just look around the people shooters, even in the ports of Yuri Arcurs you see a lot of real world content selling well.

"Real world" is a styling trend for people shots, nothing magical about it.

Stock is not about discovering your soul, stock images are just digital products for sale

I look forward to generating lots of shiny happy very fake people once firefly is out for commercial use.

Laughing women with salad, here I come. :)

eta

Maybe I will ask the ai to transform my ugly food snapshots into beautiful studio shot masterpieces set in elaborate restaurant and home locations and generate fresh money from thousands of iphone shots

Who knows...endless possibilities...










« Last Edit: July 07, 2023, 04:17 by cobalt »

« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2023, 19:26 »
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I thought video that was genAI was not permitted - but there are a small number that are marked as generative AI

There are over 114,000 photos marked as generative AI and over 8,000 vectors. I thought the rules said Illustration category only.

Combine the above with the massive repetition of themes (and some portfolios with several dozen identical pairs or triplets) which I gave examples of in another thread, and it appears the rules are largely ignored during inspection, at least of AI images.

« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2023, 19:45 »
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Maybe the AI reviewers give preference to the AI submitters and those are preferred by the AI buyers. I for one welcome our AI overlords.

« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2023, 01:30 »
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I hope they allow ai video soon.

I removed my one lonely file.

« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2023, 11:21 »
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Hi everyone,

If you are new to creating and submitting generative AI content to Adobe Stock, or you have a question about generative AI content, I'm hosting a Stock 101 session on that very topic this Wednesday, June 28 at 12pm Pacific time.

The event will happen in our Behance Live page which can be found here: https://www.behance.net/adobestock/livestreams

I hope to see you there,

Mat Hayward

Dear @Mat Hayward
Maybe next stream you'll do with Adobe Stock and ask them about the problems with "Generated with AI". How to generate a million images with Midjourney -  it doesn't take much skill and knowledge. Better ask Adobe how they are going to protect authors in such situations:

The person downloaded my images from Adobe Stock (I doubt he bought them). He inserted them into Midjourney (or other AI program) and generated new pictures and sells them as his own. Is this legal? Didn't Adobe promise to protect authors from this? What compensation will I get as an author while stolen content based on my work is being sold?
I find a lot of works from other authors who obviously operate in the same way: they download an image and generate similar images in Midjourney based on my work and sell them. Yes, they are not selling my work specifically, but they have used my work to generate new work. Is that acceptable? How is Adobe Stock going to protect me from this?

I already told you about this one. Why are not asked the necessary and sharp questions during the streams. Why aren't the interests of the authors being defended in the streams?



« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2023, 13:21 »
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I found that some of my works that were not created with AI are labeled as "Generated with AI". Why did this happen and how do you undo it? It turns out that Adobe Stock misleads its customers and deceives them.

« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2023, 08:30 »
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The person downloaded my images from Adobe Stock (I doubt he bought them). He inserted them into Midjourney (or other AI program) and generated new pictures and sells them as his own. Is this legal? Didn't Adobe promise to protect authors from this? What compensation will I get as an author while stolen content based on my work is being sold?
I find a lot of works from other authors who obviously operate in the same way: they download an image and generate similar images in Midjourney based on my work and sell them. Yes, they are not selling my work specifically, but they have used my work to generate new work. Is that acceptable? How is Adobe Stock going to protect me from this?

I already told you about this one. Why are not asked the necessary and sharp questions during the streams. Why aren't the interests of the authors being defended in the streams?

Adobe AI images restrictions are very clear. You cannot upload works based on someone else work. It's not allowed, and that's all, what else could Adobe do to protect the works?

About "copycat": looking at others works and replicate them in different ways is what 99% of stock producers did from the very first day.
The only difference is that now it's much more easy to do. But of course you can't pretend to have copyright on a tomato, or an apple, or anything else: anyone can produce a new image on the same subject. Anyone can get a camera (or a pen, or a digital pen) and produce similar images.
And now anyone can use an AI image creator.

This is not an AI issue.
This is a human issue.

« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2023, 08:41 »
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There are over 114,000 photos marked as generative AI and over 8,000 vectors. I thought the rules said Illustration category only.

I have few of them, some AI marked as photo, probably just because I forgot to change the category during submit process. I wrote to support to change that (because I can't do by my own) and after several days woithout answer I ask to Mat to help to correct this issue.
It's quite easy to forget to change category from photo to illustration, even after flagging the image as "AI Generative"; and I'll probably did this mistake for some images

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2023, 08:44 »
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I thought video that was genAI was not permitted - but there are a small number that are marked as generative AI

There are over 114,000 photos marked as generative AI and over 8,000 vectors. I thought the rules said Illustration category only.

Combine the above with the massive repetition of themes (and some portfolios with several dozen identical pairs or triplets) which I gave examples of in another thread, and it appears the rules are largely ignored during inspection, at least of AI images.

Some of those vectors look mislabelled. There's work labelled as AI that really doen't look like AI and is consistent with the artist's older work that predates AI. Weird.

« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2023, 22:45 »
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There are over 114,000 photos marked as generative AI and over 8,000 vectors. I thought the rules said Illustration category only.

I have few of them, some AI marked as photo, probably just because I forgot to change the category during submit process. I wrote to support to change that (because I can't do by my own) and after several days woithout answer I ask to Mat to help to correct this issue.
It's quite easy to forget to change category from photo to illustration, even after flagging the image as "AI Generative"; and I'll probably did this mistake for some images

Completely understandable that mistakes happen, but this needs to get fixed during inspection or sent back to the contributor to fix (and make it possible for the contributor interface to make that change).

Perhaps they could get Chat GPT to write the code for them to update the software :)

This evening there are over 16,700 vectors tagged as generative AI - more than double what was there a few days ago. Over 179,000 genAI photos now.

One option would be to change the rules...

« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2023, 00:29 »
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There are over 114,000 photos marked as generative AI and over 8,000 vectors. I thought the rules said Illustration category only.

I have few of them, some AI marked as photo, probably just because I forgot to change the category during submit process. I wrote to support to change that (because I can't do by my own) and after several days woithout answer I ask to Mat to help to correct this issue.
It's quite easy to forget to change category from photo to illustration, even after flagging the image as "AI Generative"; and I'll probably did this mistake for some images

Completely understandable that mistakes happen, but this needs to get fixed during inspection or sent back to the contributor to fix (and make it possible for the contributor interface to make that change).

Perhaps they could get Chat GPT to write the code for them to update the software :)

This evening there are over 16,700 vectors tagged as generative AI - more than double what was there a few days ago. Over 179,000 genAI photos now.

One option would be to change the rules...

I think it also happened to me - Though I can't say for sure, because when I look at the image, it only tells me whether it's Ai generated or not, not whether it is a photo or illustration - But I do not understand why this is even possible on Adobe's end. AI generated images must be submitted as illustrations, so the combination of checking the "Ai content" checkbox and selecting the photo catergory instead of illustration category should simply lead to an error message.

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2023, 03:24 »
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Hey Matt, why is AS allowing autotraced AI vector stuff through that it would never even consider if it wasn't AI? i.e. why is quality standard for AI lower when it is easier to produce in massive numbers? Shouldn't it, if anything, be higher if you don't want the whole collection to be swamped?

https://stock.adobe.com/uk/images/night-moonlight-fantastic-spooky-house-in-a-dark-spooky-wind-dark-fantasy-scene-landscape-with-spooky-house-forest-graveyard-vector-illustration-banner-of-spooky-misty-forest-at-night/584968697

https://stock.adobe.com/uk/images/set-of-vintage-retro-comics-cartoon-book-cover-sunburst-boom-explosion-boom-can-be-used-for-graphic-design-or-illustration-graphics-style/618573612

« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2023, 04:03 »
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I didnt expect that from Adobe. No quality. Ai over human artist :/

« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2023, 04:24 »
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I think it also happened to me - Though I can't say for sure, because when I look at the image, it only tells me whether it's Ai generated or not, not whether it is a photo or illustration - But I do not understand why this is even possible on Adobe's end. AI generated images must be submitted as illustrations, so the combination of checking the "Ai content" checkbox and selecting the photo catergory instead of illustration category should simply lead to an error message.
Checked: photos
Checked: Generative AI Only
181,533 results in all
Why did Adobe Stock became so... untrustable... and GREEDY?


 

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