Hi Everyone,

Please Join Adobe�s Head of Content for Adobe Stock Brianna Wettlaufer as she talks with myself and Principal Photography Evangelist Terry White (also a stock contributor), about the need for more diversity in stock content.

This Wednesday, May 22 at 4PM PDT.

https://www.crowdcast.io/e/adobe-stock-diversity

-Mat Hayward

"Principal Photography Evangelist " You just had to throw religion in the mix

What on earth is a "Principal Photography Evangelist?"   

Do you mean a photographer or photography expert? 

Anyway Terry's correct title is " Principal Creative Cloud Evangelist for Adobe Systems, Inc."

And when you say "the need for more diversity in stock content" is diversity as in the current diversity i.e. people of color LGBTQI, etc or just a better mix of photos styles and subjects 

I'm 100% sure they're gonna be talking about color, ethnicity, LGBTQ, etc.  In that case, I'll say thanks, Mat, but no thanks. I'll pass on this particular webinar and look forward to the next one.

+1000000

Being a "free artist" is a great advantage, so I can skip on this corporate agenda and political stuff. Sick and tired of these "diversities" and LGBTQWatever nonsense all around, won't allow it in my work.

Make a vebinar on classic family values instead please since it seems we are here not only for photography craft anymore...

Wow this took a turn.

Feel free to stick to your opinion and your definitions. I will stick to mine - this is Diversity

Nope that's just bigotry.

Great Call it whatever and do your own thing.
Thankfully I live in a country with free speech, not the same as yours seems so

Bigotry (definition) - intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

"Traditional" maybe is the word you are looking for @SwissChocolate.
Diversity is good as long as it does not try to amplify anything as mainstream.

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on May 21, 2019, 02:31

No its not, Swiss Chocolate wants to abide by family values which stood the test of time for over a million years.  It's not backward thinking it is the basis of human society with out which we would not be here.

As to the "diversity" trend its has little to do with real diversity and more to do with
corporations trying to appear "woke" and huge amounts of money being thrown at minority interest groups who shout the loudest and have their own "bigoted" agenda for their own political ends.

Great, couldn't agree more

Quote from: georgep7 on May 21, 2019, 02:45

"Traditional" maybe is the word you are looking for @SwissChocolate.

Thanks, yes

Thank god we've made enough progress that your husband / father / brother allows you have a job so we can all hear your enlightened views in here.

Rant removed 

Life is too short 

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on May 20, 2019, 16:45

And when you say "the need for more diversity in stock content" is diversity as in the current diversity i.e. people of color LGBTQI, etc or just a better mix of photos styles and subjects 

My question too. Since I shoot nature exclusively, "diversity" for me could mean a mixture of sparrows and lizards and bears, or deserts and mountains and tallgrass prairies.

Actually I'm joking, 'cause I'm 100% sure they're gonna be talking about color, ethnicity, LGBTQ, etc.  In that case, I'll say thanks, Mat, but no thanks. I'll pass on this particular webinar and look forward to the next one.

Wow. Just wow. 

I had no idea my simple comment that the definition of "diversity" as it applies to my own particular style of photography would set off such a firestorm.

Sorry, Mat. I really didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm sure your webinar will be interesting and helpful to those who "shoot" people.

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on May 20, 2019, 16:45

And when you say "the need for more diversity in stock content" is diversity as in the current diversity i.e. people of color LGBTQI, etc or just a better mix of photos styles and subjects 

My question too. Since I shoot nature exclusively, "diversity" for me could mean a mixture of sparrows and lizards and bears, or deserts and mountains and tallgrass prairies.

Actually I'm joking, 'cause I'm 100% sure they're gonna be talking about....

You are not allowed to joke anymore. Identity politics will not enable you to do that. Someone will get offended.

Ok, thanks for info Mat!

Good luck!

I do not understand all the negatives in this thread.
When Mat said "the need of more diversity in stock", I had the impression that he meant to diversify the topics, like a bit of cityscapes, a bit of nature, a bit of food, and so on.
Why people see politics everywhere these days?

It depends on one's understanding of the word "diversity."

Yes, in the generic photography sense, "diversity" can be interpreted as choosing various subjects, as I suggested by mentioning sparrows, lizards, or bears.

However, current-day English tends to designate "diversity" as a way to refer to various types of people� by gender, race, age, etc.

And since concepts like "gender" or "sexual orientation" are in flux these days, that's increasingly how the word "diversity" is understood.

You can like it or not, or call it political/political correctness or not, but it's the reality these days for native speakers of English.

I'm not a native English speaker, but in microstock "Diversity in stock" means one and only thing:

here is a title of one of 10000000000 articles nowadays all around:

"Gaining A Competitive Edge: Seven Ways To Build Diversity And Inclusion In The Tech Workplace" (Forbes)

Since stock sites aim to serve all those big customers which have their own agenda mixed with political propoganda, we have what we have: constant reminder to shoot something that "has to be" popular by all means.

And this is why they don't get those topics "organically" - nobody is interested in shooting something that does not exist in real world.

4% of population who are LGBTYERKKDHJ or other people with psychiatric conditions, and socially accepted deviations aren't a "community" - they are just people living lives with their issues like everyone else, but we are forced to believe that at least 50% of people are like that and this is a norm and as a result there are mothers who change genger to their 3 y.o children (!!!) because a boy suddenly wants to wear a skirt.

Sorry, I'm not going to take part in these activities. If Adobe and others want to be responsible for the insanity it causes, good for them. Money making machine has no human feelings nor values anyway.

I'm out.

I think we, as creators, are responsible for what we say yes to and what we help "to promote" with our work.