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« on: May 27, 2024, 14:08 »
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I have a question for those responsible for Adobe Stock in the forum...

How long will we have to wait for an improvement in the ingestion process in Adobe?

Contributors waste a lot of time deciding which keywords are important and placing them at the top.

This process becomes slow and tedious. Isn't it time for Adobe to invest a little in modernizing all this?

Greetings!!
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zeljkok

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2024, 15:54 »
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Actually I find Adobe submission platform very good.  It is minimalist which is inline with overall UI design philosophy;  compare to convoluted iStock interface. 10 most important keywords concept is great; how would you want Adobe assist you with that?  Authors know what best describes their content. 

There are some bugs when you try to edit multiple images at same time, and AI generated suggestions sometime make no sense, but overall I don't think changes are necessary.

« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2024, 16:05 »
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There are a bunch of things it would be nice to have improved in the contributor interface to Adobe Stock - decent statistics, searching one's portfolio by keyword, etc. - but submissions work pretty smoothly for me.

I don't submit to Alamy any more, but they, like Adobe Stock, treated the first set of keywords as the most important. So for years now when I keyword (which I do in Photoshop, not on the Adobe site) I put them in order of importance. Thus it's no extra work at all.

As a contributor, keywords are a very close second behind the quality of your work in importance - rubbish keywords will leave you with rubbish sales most of the time. Think about what a buyer will likely find important in the image and write your keywords with that in mind.

Even with Deep Meta's assistance, iStock is a train wreck for submissions. Not to mention that they don't keep the controlled vocabulary up to date, so even if it was a good idea once, it's now too antique to matter.

Adobe's biggest keyword problem is that there is no policing of what contributors submit, so there's lots of spam

« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2024, 10:33 »
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I just had an interesting experience when submitting images.
After clicking submit I got the verify box with 'pick all the images with cats'.
Did that & then it went to another page where it asked me to 'describe the above image'
Minimum 5 words required.
Is this being used to help train their AI?
Besides being a pain in the a$$ requiring another step - I do not want to help with their AI training in any way.
Don't think I will be filling in anything useful going forward.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2024, 10:37 »
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I just had an interesting experience when submitting images.
After clicking submit I got the verify box with 'pick all the images with cats'.
Did that & then it went to another page where it asked me to 'describe the above image'
Minimum 5 words required.
Is this being used to help train their AI?
Besides being a pain in the a$$ requiring another step - I do not want to help with their AI training in any way.
Don't think I will be filling in anything useful going forward.

Not AI training, it's to stop the Bots. The click the cats has been going on for months.

« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2024, 11:06 »
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I just had an interesting experience when submitting images.
After clicking submit I got the verify box with 'pick all the images with cats'.
Did that & then it went to another page where it asked me to 'describe the above image'
Minimum 5 words required.
Is this being used to help train their AI?
Besides being a pain in the a$$ requiring another step - I do not want to help with their AI training in any way.
Don't think I will be filling in anything useful going forward.

Not AI training, it's to stop the Bots. The click the cats has been going on for months.

Really, a second form seems overkill
« Last Edit: May 28, 2024, 16:44 by PhotoBomb »

« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2024, 18:54 »
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I uploaded an image just now and had to do the pick images of cats and then describe an image. I last uploaded the day before yesterday and up till now the "verify" stuff only appeared after a long absence.

I was sorely tempted to write complete rubbish to describe the image, but don't want my account blocked for being a pain in the tush. This is absolutely trying to get some free labor out of contributors for AI training and it's disgraceful. Pay someone to do the work if you want it done; don't B-S contributors about it being necessary to establish their humanity.

If that shows up every time I upload I may just pause uploads for a bit until Adobe comes to its senses

« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2024, 20:02 »
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I uploaded an image just now and had to do the pick images of cats and then describe an image. I last uploaded the day before yesterday and up till now the "verify" stuff only appeared after a long absence.

I was sorely tempted to write complete rubbish to describe the image, but don't want my account blocked for being a pain in the tush. This is absolutely trying to get some free labor out of contributors for AI training and it's disgraceful. Pay someone to do the work if you want it done; don't B-S contributors about it being necessary to establish their humanity.

If that shows up every time I upload I may just pause uploads for a bit until Adobe comes to its senses

i haven't seen the second verify, but in setting up google captchas for my blog, the 'cat test' is randomly applied and doesn't look at history. it's an' invisible' captcha, so most users don't know it's checking for bots et al; and it has separate checks to eliminate bots, so the net result is most users aren't forced thru an 'are you human' check sequence

« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2024, 21:16 »
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Its also a very insulting test to those of us who dont know what cats look like.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2024, 14:03 »
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Its also a very insulting test to those of us who dont know what cats look like.

They are very groovy, wear Sunglasses, (day and night) have a goatee, probably wearing a little beret and a turtleneck.



That's what a cat looks like. Did that help you?

« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2024, 14:15 »
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Wow, I had no idea!

Its also a very insulting test to those of us who dont know what cats look like.

They are very groovy, wear Sunglasses, (day and night) have a goatee, probably wearing a little beret and a turtleneck.



That's what a cat looks like. Did that help you?

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2024, 14:25 »
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Wow, I had no idea!

Its also a very insulting test to those of us who dont know what cats look like.

They are very groovy, wear Sunglasses, (day and night) have a goatee, probably wearing a little beret and a turtleneck.


That's what a cat looks like. Did that help you?

Beatnicks, the Jazz and coffee shop people, the Cool Cats, (and folk music too) were pretty much wiped out by the Hippies and the British Invasion.  ;D

« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2024, 20:52 »
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Are you saying that isnt what cats look like? Im doomed!


Beatnicks, the Jazz and coffee shop people, the Cool Cats, (and folk music too) were pretty much wiped out by the Hippies and the British Invasion.  ;D

« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2024, 07:12 »
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Since Lightroom gained the ability to export in priority order i never really have a problem with this.

I paste from my spreadsheet into LR and its exported already in order.  For submission i just need to select, choose a category and release if needed and submit.  I spend very little time in the interface as a result.

It was much more annoying before when you had to export photos THEN go into Bridge and paste in the priority ordered keywords.

Its useful for Alamy too - the supertags are likely the same as the Adobe top 10 so it makes it easier to select those on uploads.

The random Captchas now are very annoying.  Especially as i fail them half the time.


 

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