Author Topic: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1 (Read 275010 times)

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #950 on:** May 12, 2014, 16:12 »

3. I hope Fotolia will offer improvements.

Much more likely with a united front from contributors. They weren't even planning on informing us of DPC before contributors banded together to put pressure on them. What do FT want at this moment? A divided opposition.

cobalt · « **Reply #951 on:** May 12, 2014, 16:15 »

Quote from: miladin14 on May 12, 2014, 16:01

Quote from: EmberMike on May 12, 2014, 15:38
but at this rate it's very possible.

it's also known as herd behavior

Keeping your files there is also herd behaviour.

After all we were not given a choice. Noone wrote to us to ask us for our files.

So instead of seeing how attractive DPC is to artist by following rising numbers of opted in portfolios, we can now only count the files that are being opted out.

Obviously if someone believes the DPC is good for their business I don´t think it is wrong to keep your files there. But if you do believe the offer should be improved or if you think that DPC is simply not good for your business it is normal to opt out and either wait for a better offer or just focus on Fotolia itself.

I sincerly doubt that an opt out button would have been offered without protest. But at least now we have choices.

So I hope that most of the files now on dpc are from people who have thought about it and think dpc is good for them.

fotoramka · « **Reply #952 on:** May 12, 2014, 16:26 »

http://stockalliance.org/ru/dpccatstats.html - detailed stats by DPC categories. Maybe it'll help someone who needs analytics.

As shown by stats i think some of big contributors was opted-out during past 4 days.

EmberMike · « **Reply #953 on:** May 12, 2014, 16:36 »

Quote from: lisafx on May 12, 2014, 15:55

...Since you seem genuinely curious:

1. Micro stock was over when Getty started giving everything away for free.
2. .37 beats the he11 out of .28, and even more so out of free.
3. I hope Fotolia will offer improvements.
4. I make business decisions based on careful consideration and not group pressure.

Thanks for the insight into your decision.

Red Dove · « **Reply #954 on:** May 12, 2014, 16:53 »

Quote from: miladin14 on May 12, 2014, 16:01

Quote from: EmberMike on May 12, 2014, 15:38
but at this rate it's very possible.

it's also known as herd behavior

I don't mind being part of the herd. However, I do object to the feeling of being milked without my permission or prior consultation.

Personally, I dropped out of the DPC because I can afford to in the short term. If I were heavily invested in FT I would be more likely to adopt a "wait and see and measure" approach - purely on the basis that a significant number of the predictions about the future of microstock here and elsewhere have proved unfounded as far as my experience goes.

Desintegrator · « **Reply #955 on:** May 12, 2014, 17:16 »

Quote from: Red Dove on May 12, 2014, 16:53

Quote from: miladin14 on May 12, 2014, 16:01
Quote from: EmberMike on May 12, 2014, 15:38
but at this rate it's very possible.

it's also known as herd behavior

I don't mind being part of the herd. However, I do object to the feeling of being milked without my permission or prior consultation.

Personally, I dropped out of the DPC because I can afford to in the short term. If I were heavily invested in FT I would be more likely to adopt a "wait and see and measure" approach - purely on the basis that a significant number of the predictions about the future of microstock here and elsewhere have proved unfounded as far as my experience goes.

Fortunetly DPC is not significant yet, after opting out (and even deleting some old material at Fotolia) my Fotolia sales are just as usual.
So I think anyone can afford dropping DPC.

EmberMike · « **Reply #956 on:** May 12, 2014, 17:29 »

Quote from: miladin14 on May 12, 2014, 16:01

it's also known as herd behavior

Not if people are coming to the decision to opt-out on their own. I certainly didn't need anyone's help in figuring this one out.

Desintegrator · « **Reply #957 on:** May 12, 2014, 17:40 »

I cannot see how anyone can doubt that the right response to Fotolia's sneaky move would be all of us just opting out and leave DPC with content obviously inferior to other sites.

This move is totally unneeded for microstock as whole, it's only greedy and desperate attempt of one company to steal market share from sites selling the same images.

Still we need to spread the world, i bet there are still plenty of contributors not knowing about DPC

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #958 on:** May 12, 2014, 22:40 »

Customers are noticing the "missing" images - more than a few tweets like these over the last 10 days:

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465744399767707648

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465770470558937088

HughStoneIan · « **Reply #959 on:** May 13, 2014, 02:23 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 12, 2014, 22:40

Customers are noticing the "missing" images - more than a few tweets like these over the last 10 days:

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465744399767707648

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465770470558937088

Verrrry nice. Thanks, Jo Ann!

Would be great if everyone posted comments they find like those mentioned above.

ETA: I love the question that one of those posters asked, "Why are so many images being deleted from the site?" Duh......

loop · « **Reply #960 on:** May 13, 2014, 04:27 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 12, 2014, 22:40

Customers are noticing the "missing" images - more than a few tweets like these over the last 10 days:

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465744399767707648

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465770470558937088

The first comment talks about the difference betwween subscription and pay per download. The designer finds an image he likes, but instead of simply downloading it at full resolution (as he would have done with a subscription, having a daily limit), downloads a composite (and saves 1 whopping dollar!) and waits for his client opinion before deciding to buy. This is why you can't hope volume in DPC; and if volume occurs it just can be at the expense of other pay per download sites. The people who stays on DPC is shooting no just all of us in the foot, but in their own feet too.

dpimborough · « **Reply #961 on:** May 13, 2014, 05:19 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 12, 2014, 22:40

Customers are noticing the "missing" images - more than a few tweets like these over the last 10 days:

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465744399767707648

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465770470558937088

Love it

https://twitter.com/bilalhouri/status/461699072261234688

Dook · « **Reply #962 on:** May 13, 2014, 09:19 »

Quote from: miladin14 on May 12, 2014, 16:01

Quote from: EmberMike on May 12, 2014, 15:38
but at this rate it's very possible.

it's also known as herd behavior

How is it herd behaviour when majority of contributors are still opted in?

Pixart · « **Reply #963 on:** May 13, 2014, 09:29 »

What are you earning on DPC? I would like to hear from a couple higher ranking individuals. Are you earning 40 cents per download? I was under the understanding the everyone gets paid a quarter and cannisters don't matter. Am I wrong?

DPC's response to a Kelbyone comment on facebook:

Quote

We'd like to clarify our intention with Dollar Photo Club. Dollar Photo Club payouts basically depend on the rank of the photographers. Payouts range from 25 cents to 40 cents, which is well in line with the market. Dollar Photo Club sales count towards for their ranking at Fotolia, on the same level as other Fotolia subscriptions. At Dollar Photo Club, contrary to standard subscriptions, unused downloads never expire. That is a very different model than standard subscriptions, where agencies get all the money from unused downloads. As a result, DollarPhotoClub is a subscription model where a higher percentage of money spent goes to the photographer. Please feel free to email me at [email protected] should you have any more queries! Thanks, Dinah

xst · « **Reply #964 on:** May 13, 2014, 09:48 »

If everyone who opted put, would go and start tweeting there at DollarPhotoClub, it may get more visible. But it also may be promotion of them

Quote from: dpimborough on May 13, 2014, 05:19

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 12, 2014, 22:40
Customers are noticing the "missing" images - more than a few tweets like these over the last 10 days:

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465744399767707648

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/465770470558937088

Love it https://twitter.com/bilalhouri/status/461699072261234688

luissantos84 · « **Reply #965 on:** May 13, 2014, 09:49 »

Quote from: Pixart on May 13, 2014, 09:29

What are you earning on DPC? I would like to hear from a couple higher ranking individuals. Are you earning 40 cents per download? I was under the understanding the everyone gets paid a quarter and cannisters don't matter. Am I wrong?

there is no idea of what "you" are being paid or not, there are no reports (IS does report the sales from TS), I wonder if this doesn't bother the contributors still opted-in

BUT it doesn't matter because they all believe they will get richer, the microstocker thought!

Morphart · « **Reply #966 on:** May 13, 2014, 10:13 »

Just opted-out, thanks for the thread!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #967 on:** May 13, 2014, 10:47 »

I replied to the spin doctor's reply on the KelbyOne Facebook page (took a screen shot in case it gets pulled down

It was also brought to my attention that DPC's tweets have now reduced the total number of images they're touting in their promotional posts

luissantos84 · « **Reply #968 on:** May 13, 2014, 10:50 »

Fotolia twitter (2754 tweets, Nov 2nd 2009, 6 so far today)
DollarPhotoClub twitter (411 tweets from Jan 14th, 44 so far today)

Fotolia facebook (102980 likes from Dec 29th 2009)
DollarPhotoClub facebook (25339 likes from Jan 8th)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #969 on:** May 13, 2014, 10:57 »

cobalt · « **Reply #970 on:** May 13, 2014, 11:02 »

So dpc is being more aggressively marketed via social networks than fotolia (6 versus 44 tweets). This is what I meant worries me about Fotolia. That it will now be the unloved stepchild while they grow dpc. the same that happened to istock when getty started Thinkstock.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #971 on:** May 13, 2014, 11:05 »

they just lost 2 followers maybe because they tweeted the same ad 16 times in the last hour

make that 17!

Pixart · « **Reply #972 on:** May 13, 2014, 11:10 »

Wouldn't the attached sum it up? (oops, why are there two?)

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #973 on:** May 13, 2014, 13:42 »

Anyone who speaks Portuguese want try try and contact Cristovao Oliveira, the author of this image? It'd be nice to get that one opted out

http://us.fotolia.com/id/58904976

He's at Shutterstock and Dreamstime, but not at iStock (as far as I can tell). That image isn't at DT, but here's his profile

http://www.dreamstime.com/cristovao_info

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #974 on:** May 13, 2014, 14:00 »

And here are screen shots (minus the missing megaphone tweet) of the images Dollar Photo Club used in their promotional tweets and which are now opted out and thus unavailable to buyers (click for full size)

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Author Topic: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1 (Read 275010 times)

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xst

luissantos84

Morphart

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