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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2014, 15:50 »
+41
Desperate, eh? :)

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2014, 15:52 »
+17
Fight back with bribery and whitewash it.  >:(

Ron

« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2014, 15:54 »
+18
Leaf, badge please.

« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2014, 15:55 »
+2
But what about the royalty on the Dollar Photo Club sales themselves - is that changing? 25% of $1 is 25 cents - so the existing rates would apply, correct?

« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2014, 15:55 »
+16
Leaf, maybe MatHayward should get a Fotolia logo on his profile image so it is clear for everybody that he works for Fotolia?

« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2014, 16:03 »
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But what about the royalty on the Dollar Photo Club sales themselves - is that changing? 25% of $1 is 25 cents - so the existing rates would apply, correct?

That's a good question Joann.  The commission rate on Dollar Photo Club sales will be a subscription commission based on rank as it has been.  Here is a breakdown of the rates for DPC commissions.

White    0.25 credits    
Bronze     0.27 credits    
Silver     0.29% credits    
Gold     0.31% credits    
Emerald    0.33% credits    
Sapphire    0.35% credits    
Rubis    0.37% credits    
Diamond    0.40% credits


-Mat

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2014, 16:04 »
+21
But with all the SEO, tweeting and everything else you're doing to push DPC, who's going to be buying from Fotolia?

Shelma1

« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2014, 16:06 »
+14
This makes me so aggravated I'm removing all my files from Fotolia. Not that I had many there to begin with.

« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2014, 16:07 »
+19
I suppose that is good news, but I really had hoped for a higher threshold at DPC.  If DPC is really meant for large buyers, then 10 dollars is WAY too low.   Raise the bar to 99 dollars, and I will gladly opt in again.

« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2014, 16:07 »
+22
We should shutdown DPC.
War on socialmedia and contacting dpc contributors via mail. Organised resistance should be our answer. :-*

Ron

« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2014, 16:10 »
+18
Sold an hour ago


License   XL
Price   N/A
Commission   0.27


No change.

« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2014, 16:11 »
+5
I know we are all frustrated with DPC, but .. er.. isn't this good news?

Fotolia are making it more lucrative to be part of DPC.  Isn't that what we want/wanted?

just asking.....  (goes and hides behind the tomato shield)

Shelma1

« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2014, 16:13 »
+17
I know we are all frustrated with DPC, but .. er.. isn't this good news?

Fotolia are making it more lucrative to be part of DPC.  Isn't that what we want/wanted?

just asking.....  (goes and hides behind the tomato shield)

Not necessarily. DPC will still undercut regular sales everywhere else, so you'll get fewer and fewer Fotolia (and other site) sales, so the "huge" increase in commission won't amount to anything.

Ron

« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2014, 16:14 »
+11
I know we are all frustrated with DPC, but .. er.. isn't this good news?

Fotolia are making it more lucrative to be part of DPC.  Isn't that what we want/wanted?

just asking.....  (goes and hides behind the tomato shield)
I think the problem is the cheap entry level devaluing all images and potentially causing competition to do the same if DPC is a success. XL at CanStockPhoto cost 10 dollar, its 90% cheaper at DPC.

« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2014, 16:15 »
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I know we are all frustrated with DPC, but .. er.. isn't this good news?

Fotolia are making it more lucrative to be part of DPC.  Isn't that what we want/wanted?

just asking.....  (goes and hides behind the tomato shield)

Not really. If someone wants one of my images they can buy it from my symbio-site at $14.75 or via subs at SS for a $250 commitment... or 10 of my images for a $10 commitment at DPC. I need 59 sales at DPC to match just one on my own site. Still look good to you?

« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2014, 16:18 »
+16
Volume discounts shouldn't start at a $10 level - at a bare minimum, that's what must change.

« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2014, 16:18 »
+18
In my humble view, that seems to tell that Fotolia foresees itself making money with DPC, not with Fotolia.

« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2014, 16:21 »
+6
Technically it is good news (and I appreciate that Mat came to the lion's den and brought the news).

It does not neccessarily make opting in into DPC more attractive, because I might get higher subscription commissions on Fotolia than on DPC. What it does is (from what I see and understand) it rectifies the injustices in contributor shares brought on by the mini-sub-programms.

On the other hand - it also makes following through how commissions will be calculated extremely difficult and it does not prevent FT from slashing down subscription package prices tremendously - in which case contributors will earn their agreed share, but their RPD is gonna sink (I foresee commissions below 25 cents or 20 cents in the future). This will need careful watching!

Goofy

« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2014, 16:23 »
0
Now, we have some good thoughts being tossed on the table. It kind of reminds of of when Senior Management tells the union flat out 'No' but changes its mind and is willing to listen to the employees... 8)



« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2014, 16:23 »
+8
so FT subs went up to 20% (actually we don't know what was before right?) if you are opted-out and 25% if opted-in

why would we opt in? for an extra 5% on 10$ plans?

maybe I am missing something

« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2014, 16:25 »
+1
Ah yes OK, well I can still agree that the minimum 'buy in' for the DPC is low - just saying that in terms of commissions it is a step in the right direction and looks ok.

« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2014, 16:27 »
+13
Just to clear that up a bit:

If I understand that correctly, it is NOT about DPC directly.
Fotolia is raising the commission they pay on the monthly subscriptions.
Until now all we receive is our regular subscription rate.
For example the smallest package sells at $25 for 5 XXL images, i.e. we used to receive $0,25 - $0,40 per sale depending on our rank.

That is 5% - 8%.

Now they raise that to a flat 20% (with a lower limit of the old rate).

That alone is a good move.
While I would like to receive the rate according to my rank (as these are not really subscriptions, but rather credit packages under a different name) it is still an improvement.

Now the connection to DPC: If you opt your portfolio in to DPC, that rate (for the monthly subscriptions) goes up from 20% to 25%.

That's how I understood it.
@Mat: Correct?

And another one: Will FT consider raising the entry level for DPC to something realistic?
Only then will I opt back in.

« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2014, 16:40 »
+1
I haven't been following this DPC thing so dumb question - is this an opt in / opt out thing & how do we know if we have been automatically opted in?

MxR

« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2014, 16:40 »
+23
what!! im silver, if you sold for 5 dollar my rate is 1,25 in or out of your S-H-I-T DPC...are you paying 0,29 for a 5 $ sale?

I desire Fotolia Crush!


 

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