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helix7

« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2008, 11:33 »
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We are requesting that you :

- Limit download size to XS, S and M

What other subscription sites offer this feature? Would you petition the other sites as well?


- Give every one the option to opt-out


Again, not every sub site offers this.

And no they can't do whatever they want... Andres, Bobby and some top contributors along with lot of other contributors have stopped uploading new content to Fotolia.  A lot of French contributors that went exclusive with FT are now moving to other micros.  Fotolia would really be stupid not to listen to his contributors...

Sure they can do whatever they want, and they know it. Maybe there are some heavy hitters on the list, but Yuri was leading the anti-sub charge with StockXpert and not much happened there. Even if someone like Andres threatened to leave Fotolia altogether, do you think they would change policy? A handful of contributors are a drop in the bucket when there are thousands of others, and many thousands of up-and-coming new artists who will fill the void.

I certainly applaud the rally around an issue here, and I'm as opposed to subscriptions as anyone else. Unfortunately subscriptions are here to stay, we can't stop them, and I really believe that we are in the unfortunate position of not being able to have much affect on how they are structured. These sites really can do whatever they want, because they know that there are plenty of people out there who will happily accept whatever terms they offer. There are lots of second-rate microstock sites out there, most of which people here don't bother with, but many people elsewhere do. The terms may be terrible, but people still contribute. As long as there are some people who will accept whatever terms a company throws at them, these companies have no need to worry about a small group of angry contributors, and they certainly have no need to act on a petition.

I wish we could make a difference, but it's just not going to happen. Nature of the microstock beast.




cphoto

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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2008, 12:29 »
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I wish we could make a difference, but it's just not going to happen. Nature of the microstock beast.


Wrong.  Following complaints from Andres and many US and French contributors FT just changed their policy: http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php/topic,4965.0.html

That's a first step.

That should tell you that when 2 huge community (European + US) get united and complain, they HAVE to listen to us.

But if you just always accept changes in policies and never complain about them, for sure nothing will ever happen, same thing at my primary work, LOL ;)
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 12:30 by cphoto »

« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2008, 12:43 »
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.....Fotolia is a French company and in France that's how we do business... everybody goes on strike until thing changes.  That's why we have strikes all year long :)

I like the way the French stand up for themselves.  I wish we would do this in the UK.  It does work, if enough people join in.  Most of us can manage without uploading to fotolia but they will suffer if they don't compromise.

« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2008, 12:48 »
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I wish we could make a difference, but it's just not going to happen. Nature of the microstock beast.


Wrong.  Following complaints from Andres and many US and French contributors FT just changed their policy: http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php/topic,4965.0.html

That's a first step.

That should tell you that when 2 huge community (European + US) get united and complain, they HAVE to listen to us.

But if you just always accept changes in policies and never complain about them, for sure nothing will ever happen, same thing at my primary work, LOL ;)

Agree 100%.
They need us, they have to listen to us.

« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2008, 12:53 »
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For french speakers , a video interview about the CEO of Fotolia talking about his new business venture:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/interview-thibaud-elziere-zilok/1136587344


« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2008, 13:02 »
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what does he say?

« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2008, 13:12 »
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Basically he is talking about Zilok.com which is a bit similar to ebay except that you can just rent not buy.
For example  u can rent a camera for one day in Paris for about 15 euros...
So far few cameras for rent  but interesting concept

« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2008, 19:34 »
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.....Fotolia is a French company and in France that's how we do business... everybody goes on strike until thing changes.  That's why we have strikes all year long :)

I like the way the French stand up for themselves.  I wish we would do this in the UK.  It does work, if enough people join in.  Most of us can manage without uploading to fotolia but they will suffer if they don't compromise.

Alamy is a British company, where the majority of contributors are British. Alamy recently did something that the contributors did not like and they protested. Alamy changed their policy within a day, so it seems the British were doing a good job of standing up for themselves in that case.


 

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