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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2008, 18:06 »
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I really shouldn't have gone out last night, watching this thread would have been sooooo much more fun, although it dosn't pay quite so well...

For the record, I'd like to state that I am a photographer now, I was announced as 'Chris, The Photographer' last night at a formal function, so that makes it true.

Now that my ego has had that injection I'm off to the office to write a book so I can enjoy the time honoured art of Miz baiting as well...

;D


« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2008, 18:16 »
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Your totally a photographer!!
I know, because I'm more than a little  jealous of your horse racing stuff.  :'(

lol... nice work

Errr, fankyou?

Your studio stuff is really nice, so I'm figuring you know which end to point where as well.  :D

« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2008, 21:03 »
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  Sorry Miz... my last post was a little out of line.  :-\

  As you probably know, I have met and have formed close friendships w/ many people from these forums & microstock in general, through the workshops that Bobby Deal & I hold.   I get all bitchy & overreact when I feel like people are attacking my friends. 

I'll take your advice and stay out of your threads from here on out.

B.

« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2008, 21:32 »
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Just an observation. I just find it odd that in the real world people bite their lips, and then let you have it when you leave the room. In the Forums, its anything goes!!! I'm not sure which is better.  :-\     

There should be a big sign that says "post at your own risk"  :D

rinderart

« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2008, 00:15 »
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One thing I will agree with miz Is, just dont answer anyone that says nothing or really means nothing, Or has nothing to really contribute to anyone.
                             
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 00:35 by rinderart »

« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2008, 00:35 »
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QUOTE from rinderart
"After about 20,000 posts and not only on SS with 11,000 and more on Pro sites you guys probably would never go to ,I know one thing for sure. I love about 350 people. anymore than that. People start hating and putting on arm bands. they splinter off to there little "groups".

                                           I always found that the most disgusting thing about the internet and Microstock in particular. I have given everything to this business and to those special ones that want more. I get 100 e-mails a day and many PM's and Phone calls from around the world asking for help which I give without question or cost in anyway, I've got thousands approved and helped thousands sell better. There is not one of you that do this. So, when anyone attacks me with even the slightest innuendo or veiled comment that I don't know what Im saying or taking advantage of anyone will throw me into a rage Every single time. And Im sick of it!!!!!!!!!! Im done fighting Guys. You Fight. I don't want to anymore , theres to much to be done.


                                 Guys like robert mean nothing to me, They don't do anything and they Know nothing about making Images or this business. So I take Posts like this as yet another stupid attempt to undermine what Im truly about because there just bored filled with  hate or jealous.

                                     This is all so childish and silly I can't even begin to tell you. I've been posting Long before robert or most of you even knew what a camera is.
                                       Back in the early days of RF , I used to enjoy Miz, then he went over the edge and got banned pretty much everywhere with his Hate disguised as fun. It's not fun Robert!! Not anymore . Some of us are trying to evolve and bring back the community of understanding and Helping each other. I deserve to sell My Classes,Workshops and Books because  I've paid my dues. So Mr, EX Prison Guard give me a * Break, Stay in your own element OK? , Or basement or wherever you spend that liesure time you have since you cant post anywhere else. Spend time on your Craft and show them more than 5 tricks in Photoshop that Most have known for at least 10 years if not more. Do something positive. Im not your enemy, You are your enemy. Think about it. Im on the road tommorrow for a week of teaching so If ya answer. your talking to yourself as usual. Have fun and stay out of my crap OK?. This wasn't even worth typing. God, I hate this crap.  So Non productive. Anyone insults me, Insults every student or friend I have and That I will Fight for."


Holy mackerel....your a teacher?
You know something, somehow I thank my lucky stars your not living in my
neighborhood where you could actually get your hands on me.

I read the same type of rantings I just read in your post in the writings of a serial killer
that was housed in the prison I worked in. Calm down....let's go low and slow shall we?

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason 
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 00:42 by rjmiz »

rinderart

« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2008, 00:36 »
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I changed it robert. because it means nothing.I dont go low and slow When Me or my friends or students get insulted by anyone. I'll come out fighting. Low and slow Is good with me. You? Just be careful with your fun stuff. it isin't fun to quite a few . serial killer? Now thats fun. see ya around Kiddo. be good OK?
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 00:42 by rinderart »

« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2008, 00:48 »
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Gee Rinder I'm glad you modified it. Let's be friends
It's sad that you feel that way. Why? Did you believe this post was about you?

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 00:50 by rjmiz »

« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2008, 01:56 »
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Geez, rjmiz, enough already.
Just drop it.

Microbius

« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2008, 03:38 »
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Geez, rjmiz, enough already.
Just drop it.


Miz I think you should drop it too. Not because you have gone to far but because I think you have probably hit the nail on the head.
Some of us also remember that PM that was posted in the SS forum from Laurin, one of the vilest most vindictive threatening pieces of prose I have read on the internet in a long time.
.....Then the victim of the bullying was banned from SS, even though there are no rules expressly forbidding the posting of PMs in the SS guidelines.
What you have to remember when dealing with Laurin is that he has this public persona of helpful teacher and microstock guru (--with no and I mean zero evidence of any success in this business plus a history of being caught out in half and untruths, for example see http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/abt35943-0-asc-0.html and and make a WHOIS query on the domains in question)
Then there is what is going on behind the scenes. The monster that surfaces when he is cornered like the PM stalking, abusive rants and merciless pursuit of anyone who speaks up against him. Including but not limited to organizing witch hunts on the SS forum by sending out PMs to his little gang asking them to chime in and getting others banned .
He is what the Scientologists would call a "fair gamer", so watch your step.
All this while professing to be an arch liberal.
If I wasn't anonymous on this forum, I would also think twice about posting this. Please note, if people are scared to speak up against you you are probably not on the side of good!

« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2008, 05:12 »
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Wow Microbius thanks for the warning.
I'll watch my back.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

PS wanna know a little secret? read my last post.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?topic=5137.new;topicseen#new
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 05:15 by rjmiz »

« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2008, 12:42 »
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Two cranky old *insult removed*.  Great.  Let's aim their rocking chairs at each other and have at it!

« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2008, 12:44 »
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 ;D ;D ;D LOL

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

fotoKmyst

« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2008, 13:37 »
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Two cranky old *insult removed*.  Great.  Let's aim their rocking chairs at each other and have at it!

oooh, *insult removed* in the rink. holy moly, i got to get my camera...
could be an editorial.
where's the fight gonna be , MIZ? ;D

« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2008, 14:22 »
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I don't know of whom sjocke refers to as the other "old *insult removed*" however I am the sole "Crank".
I'm feeling a bit spirited today however, and would not mind taking a shot at the "old *insult removed*" title too.

Someone let me know what the rules are, ...and the terms and conditions of the title.
I will then consider going up against any old *insult removed*.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

Microbius

« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2008, 15:07 »
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I'm a photographer because ...

... I have a great big black camera which you could hammer nails into wood with (and I sometimes do)
... I put a great big long, long black lens on it
... I put a great big black hood thingie on the end of the lens that makes it look even longer (but doesn't do anything else as far as I'm aware 'cos it hasn't got any glass in it)
... and I have a great thick camera strap with the maker's name and model of camera embroidered prominently on it, just in case people can't recognise the camera itself
... and I always have the camera set to continuous shooting (high speed), even when I'm photographing flowers, so it goes 'pow-pow-pow-pow-pow' whenever I press the shutter.

Okay?

Oh ... and I forgot to mention ... I only ever shoot one-handed, 'cos that's what the cool photogs in the ads do.

 ;D
Back to the topic in hand. This post is a classic  ;D

« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2008, 15:43 »
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If I am behind the wheel of a car; I AM A DRIVER
If I have a gun, walking thru the woods looking to shoot some game to eat; I AM A HUNTER
If I am pushing a shopping cart thru a supermarket; I AM A SHOPPER
If I'm in a DR's office waiting to be seen; I AM A PATIENT
Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason
just cause you put out a fire doesn't make you a fireman ;)


« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2008, 16:42 »
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...it makes me a firefighter though!

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

RacePhoto

« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2008, 17:50 »
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I handed a camera to my friends baby in the crib. Eventually after trying to eat it and drooling on it, he pushed the shutter button. Now there's a young photographer. :D

Everyone who takes pictures is a photographer, maybe if your question was a little more well defined it would make more sense?

For example, what makes someone a professional photographer?

Some folks will say over 80% of their income from photos. (I don't agree) Some might say, if you sell photos, or have your photos published, for payment, (notice I didn't say profit) ;) on a regular basis. Which I think fits.

I peed on a cigarette last night, That makes me a fire fighter too! See, you need to make some distinctions and clarify your arguments. Otherwise they are just a waste of space, because they are open ended and vague.

« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2008, 19:21 »
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"you need to make some distinctions and clarify your arguments."

OK if you ever held a camera in your hand and produced an image, then your a photographer.

You have taken issues with my nits. You have pointed out you are also a firefighter.
You have collected all my nits, and God only knows what your doing with them. Pick, pick, pick. You collect my nits.
Nits that I may have worked on a long time. And the without regard, you continue to pick them.

You my kind sir are what I refer to as a NIT PICKER.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

RacePhoto

« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2008, 20:07 »
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"you need to make some distinctions and clarify your arguments."

OK if you ever held a camera in your hand and produced an image, then your a photographer.

You have taken issues with my nits. You have pointed out you are also a firefighter.
You have collected all my nits, and God only knows what your doing with them. Pick, pick, pick. You collect my nits.
Nits that I may have worked on a long time. And the without regard, you continue to pick them.

You my kind sir are what I refer to as a NIT PICKER.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason


If anyone who takes a photo, is a photographer, I agreed. If anyone who puts out a fire is a firefighter, then the same standard applies.

It's not nit picking, it's pointing out that while your contention is correct, it's way too broad if you are trying to make some point about what some other people have said, or if you are trying to start a debate or argument. I don't think they wrote that people who take photos are not photographers.

There's no nit in being accurate, clear and concise, about what you are trying to communicate. You should try it sometime. ;)

You really ought to start your own forum, I bet you would have fun and get a regular group of people who enjoyed jousting with you over contrived issues that you fabricate day after day.


RT


« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2008, 15:56 »
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What you have to remember when dealing with Laurin is that he has this public persona of helpful teacher and microstock guru (--with no and I mean zero evidence of any success in this business plus a history of being caught out in half and untruths, for example see http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/abt35943-0-asc-0.html and and make a WHOIS query on the domains in question)



That thread was one of his best  :D A classic Rinderism

« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2008, 16:31 »
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I tend to agree that anyone who takes photos can call themselves a photographer, with one exception: The people who only take photos of themselves to photoshop up into someone very attractive but unrecogniseable. It just doesn't feel right adding to the narcissism.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2008, 16:35 by Joyce »

« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2008, 23:41 »
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Driving is an activity, people taking part are drivers
Photography is an activity, people taking part are photographers
Flying a plane is an activity, people taking part are pilots
People that run as an activity are runners.
People that play soccer or football as an activity are footballers.

Some people taking part in thier activities do it for fun, some aspire to one day be amongst the best but only a few make it, some do become the best by effort, some check book champions think they are the best because the have the best kit.

Hobbies are also activities and most hobbies and activities have some Professionals, Teachers, coaches or Trainers that earn part or all of thier income within the activity.

If you pee on a cigarette that is an action not an activity so cannot be part of this debate. 
« Last Edit: June 30, 2008, 23:44 by Adeptris »

« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2008, 03:00 »
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 ;D I can't believe how much to typed to discredit the peeing on a cigarette theory!  ;D


 

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