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« Reply #100 on: June 09, 2015, 12:43 »
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Hehe, true. And no CM buyer would pay 1300 for it either.  :P

Perhaps they'd take the flower pack - 30 photos for $2,800?

https://creativemarket.com/Stocksy/280407-Stocksy-Floral-Pack


« Reply #101 on: June 09, 2015, 12:47 »
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Apparently, it's a legit promotion of some kind.

« Reply #102 on: June 09, 2015, 13:34 »
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30 photos for $2,800 doesn't look real deal, but will be awesome if it's possible.
Great to see Stocksy and Snapwire in Creative Market :)

« Reply #103 on: June 09, 2015, 22:01 »
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Man I've been eyeing Creative Market since its inception drooling. Would love to contribute but my iStock Exclusive contract has me in chains.

Me


« Reply #104 on: June 10, 2015, 02:43 »
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Apparently, it's a legit promotion of some kind.

What would be Stocksy's thinking and strategic thought behind this move? Why would they include their images in bundles at reduced rates? Did the creators have any say as to whether their images were included or not?

Not directed at just you Sean, any thoughts welcome.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #105 on: June 10, 2015, 05:31 »
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Stocksy giving away $9000 value for $39?

Interesting to hear their motives

« Reply #106 on: June 10, 2015, 09:50 »
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Stocksy giving away $9000 value for $39?

Interesting to hear their motives

No idea whether it will work or not, but surely the only explanation is marketing - raising awareness of the agency hoping to covert purchasers of the bundle to buyers of other works directly from Stocksy.

At the prices Stocksy's collections have on CM, the bundles seem to be unlikely to sell. You don't mind a few images you won't use in a $30 or $50 bundle, but for $2,800 you'll want to use most or all. Not to mention that's a million dollar mansion on a street of $200,000 homes - CM buyers may have sticker shock even if they like the images.


Shelma1

« Reply #107 on: June 10, 2015, 10:56 »
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I'm not sure what the strategy is either. If you give away a pack of photos for much-lower-than-DPC prices there will be huge sticker shock if you visit the Stocksy site.

« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2015, 13:46 »
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Whenever I buy bundles the lightroom presets and photos that are included are total crap and I think they stuff the bundles full of this so it looks like are really good deal (although this is a photography bundles so maybe they are actually good).  The regular design tools and fonts are a steal.

Stocksy might be testing the waters on CM to see if it is worth offering bundles on their own site?

Me


« Reply #109 on: June 10, 2015, 23:50 »
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Whenever I buy bundles the lightroom presets and photos that are included are total crap and I think they stuff the bundles full of this so it looks like are really good deal (although this is a photography bundles so maybe they are actually good).  The regular design tools and fonts are a steal.

Stocksy might be testing the waters on CM to see if it is worth offering bundles on their own site?

If that is the case, isn't that the first step to the "stack it high and sell it cheap" mentality? Supermarket mentality versus boutique niche mentality? I may be wrong but I thought Stocksy were aiming more for the niche, unusual, non-stock aesthetic market, not the high volume pushing prices down market?

I appreciate things change, but in this case wouldn't that possibly indicate maybe things aren't quite as rosy as everyone hoped?

To me it looks like a car dealer selling high end marques who is struggling and then comes across a job lot of GM models dirt cheap so buys them and sticks them on the lot and sells them. All of a sudden his marque sales get worse because people are waiting for the next job lot of GM models at low prices. Although there are two distinct and different markets, they do not complement each other, and both attract different buyers and repel the other buyers/markets.

« Reply #110 on: June 11, 2015, 08:43 »
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I think it's an attempt to get the name in front of people who might not normally see it.  The fact that the images are priced at thousands show that they aren't trying to sell them cheap.  I think.

Me


« Reply #111 on: June 11, 2015, 10:40 »
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Oh dear ...

https://creativemarket.com/bundle/photography-bundle




I think it's an attempt to get the name in front of people who might not normally see it.  The fact that the images are priced at thousands show that they aren't trying to sell them cheap.  I think.


I was referring to this Sean, where Stocksy images are bundled with hundreds of other items - are you referring to Stocksy images being priced at thousands on Stocksy?

Surely a marketing campaign and strategy would be a more effective way of getting the name in front of people? Especially the right people - not ones looking for cheap bundles? I appreciate you are in the dark on this Sean but you are the only Stocksy member on here who may be able to give us some insight.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2015, 10:42 by Me »

« Reply #112 on: July 20, 2015, 13:06 »
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I recently got accepted to CM as a seller (yay!), but I am confused about how to set my prices. I am new to the design business, I have done it as a hobby for years but now want to sell professionally.

I agree that a lot of people on CM have ridiculously low prices. But how do you set the prices for your images? Per hour of work? Per perceived value? And how much per hour (or whatever your criteria is) is reasonable? I don't want to underprice my work, but also fear that nobody buys anything if my prices are too high.

And maybe I should ditch the bundles/sets?! Or make them smaller? I just created them cuz everybody does  ???

Here's my profiles: https://creativemarket.com/franzidraws

Thanks for your help!!!  :)

cuppacoffee

« Reply #113 on: July 20, 2015, 15:40 »
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Although their intentions are good it is a pain to purchase fonts there. I buy multiple font licenses for commercial use and have to purchase them individually instead of by a multi-seat license. When purchasing a font for 50 users (not unusual) I have to hit buy and go through entering my purchase info 50 times. Needless to say, I either pass or go elsewhere for a similar font. That's something they should fix if they want commercial sales. Big companies buy lots of fonts but not there.

« Reply #114 on: July 20, 2015, 20:05 »
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Hi, congratualions Franzi....

As for prices, I think your prices are okay there...You are selling a royalty free license, so is not like custom work for a client where you set your hourly rates...

....But I saw your illustration style, and I think you would benefit from some tips from a children's book illustrator I know, and I am going to recommend his youtube chanel. Will Terry, he is a pro. https://www.youtube.com/user/willterryart  not only he has illustrated books for some top publishing houses, he  teaches college, has an online school where he teaches children's book illustration classes. Check his youtube video he gives out a lot of advice, look for pricing artwork in his chanel...

Just a quesiton about creativemarket, did it take long for them to accept you there after you send them the request?


I recently got accepted to CM as a seller (yay!), but I am confused about how to set my prices. I am new to the design business, I have done it as a hobby for years but now want to sell professionally.

I agree that a lot of people on CM have ridiculously low prices. But how do you set the prices for your images? Per hour of work? Per perceived value? And how much per hour (or whatever your criteria is) is reasonable? I don't want to underprice my work, but also fear that nobody buys anything if my prices are too high.

And maybe I should ditch the bundles/sets?! Or make them smaller? I just created them cuz everybody does  ???

Here's my profiles: https://creativemarket.com/franzidraws

Thanks for your help!!!  :)

« Reply #115 on: August 01, 2015, 16:24 »
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Hi Monica,
sorry that it took me so long to reply (I assumed I would get an email notice, but maybe that ended up in the spam folder...). Thank you so much for your detailed answer!!

It didn't take long to get accepted by Creative Market, I think less than a week, definitely not longer than one week.

Thank you for the link, I will have a look at the video right after this post :)

A customer on CM contacted me for an extended commercial license, now I am reading licenses by different users, trying to figure out how much to charge and what my conditions could be. And everybody has totally different licenses. I hate licensing  :-\

« Reply #116 on: December 07, 2015, 19:05 »
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ShadySue

« Reply #117 on: December 07, 2015, 19:23 »
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Check out the latest - new licenses on CM: https://creativemarket.com/discussions/19042-New-licenses-are-here!-Post-all-your-questions-here-please-%29
That led to a 404-not found with a popup inviting me to download "free design assets".
Maybe you have to be logged in to see it?

« Reply #118 on: December 07, 2015, 19:29 »
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Check out the latest - new licenses on CM: https://creativemarket.com/discussions/19042-New-licenses-are-here!-Post-all-your-questions-here-please-%29
That led to a 404-not found with a popup inviting me to download "free design assets".
Maybe you have to be logged in to see it?

Yes, probably.  It's in the "shop owners" section.

One humorous bit is that they've basically said that all the homemade "extended licenses" that people have sold over the years are meaningless - only the CM license applies to the buyer.  Yet: https://creativemarket.com/search?q=extended

« Reply #119 on: December 07, 2015, 19:47 »
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I just took a look and got a 404 error until I logged in

This goes live Dec 10th ( they need to remove the MM-DD-YY boilerplate from the FAQ;)

Not sure about their 10x recommendation for the extended license price - I'll have to figure out what I think will work. I didn't see whether you could opt out of extended licenses if you wanted to for particular items

They also refer to use in logos. Later they note that you cannot trademark any logos with licensed components or hold copyright / they'd do better to just say you can't use in logos. Who wants a logo other people can use?
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 19:50 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #120 on: December 07, 2015, 20:21 »
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I read more in the forums and all products must have both licenses. So I guess you could just put $9,999 for any product you didn't want to have an EL :)

I posted a comment in their forums - it'd be good if anyone else who sells there adds thoughts now (before it goes live)
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 22:01 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #121 on: December 09, 2015, 12:57 »
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I'm glad to see the EL option finally. Buyers have been asking for it for a long time, and now people don't have to offer a makeshift EL as a "product" itself. Which always seemed weird to me anyway, that people essentially were making their own ELs but creating a new product and simply selling a generic EL to apply to whatever other product the buyer had purchased to go with it.

« Reply #122 on: December 16, 2015, 08:06 »
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Even though the discussion is a little old, for what it's worth I don't see the bundles hurting things at Creative Market for me. I don't participate in the bundles, and yet I still see plenty of sales and CM is consistently my #2 earner month after month this year.

Seems like the concern is that bundles lower buyer expectations on price, but I have yet to see any compelling evidence that it's true. I don't see how CM could be doing so well for me while I don't participate in bundles if bundles really did affect buyer behavior.

 

« Reply #123 on: December 16, 2015, 09:51 »
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you may have done better without the bundles being offered, you never know, they might have been your no1

« Reply #124 on: December 16, 2015, 23:24 »
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you may have done better without the bundles being offered, you never know, they might have been your no1

Maybe. But I have no control over whether a company offers bundles or not. I can just opt not to participate in them or opt not to do business with that company. I think it would be foolish for me to not work with CM and drop my #2 earner just because they offer bundles.

And I know you're not saying that, my point is just that despite having a bundle offering, the company still does well on individual product sales, and bundling alone shouldn't keep people away from a good company.


 

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