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« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2014, 05:22 »
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And I made my first sale there today!  I won't post about them all (let's hope there are lots!) but just thought I'd indicate that the small store (only 8 items in it) had seen a sale (no one I know and I'm pretty hopeless at the promotion stuff :))

congrats Jo Ann, nice to hear it is selling


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« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2014, 06:27 »
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i've nothing against these bundles unless they contain stolen images.

after all lots of people post the same cr-ap for free on Flickr and similar sites.

i don't think it's a menace to stock in any way, serious buyers will stay away from such sites.

« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2014, 12:33 »
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Well, due to the fact that there is no exif import, I decided to give image packs a whirl to see what happens.  You can see my start here:
https://creativemarket.com/seanlockephotography

Basically, I priced them between GL's medium and large times the number of images, with a slight discount for bulk.  I'll let you know if anything sells.  I hope the cover images showcase well.

« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2014, 13:38 »
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i've nothing against these bundles unless they contain stolen images.

after all lots of people post the same cr-ap for free on Flickr and similar sites.

i don't think it's a menace to stock in any way, serious buyers will stay away from such sites.

but why would it prevent u from uploading there?
if they all look bad, would it not be making ur portfolio look better?
if there is a new site  opening up other possibilities
to a market already as pointed out by many here, saturation point  ms.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 13:54 by etudiante_rapide »

« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2014, 22:27 »
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Well, due to the fact that there is no exif import, I decided to give image packs a whirl to see what happens.  You can see my start here:
https://creativemarket.com/seanlockephotography

Basically, I priced them between GL's medium and large times the number of images, with a slight discount for bulk.  I'll let you know if anything sells.  I hope the cover images showcase well.

Look really good Sean. I might jump into this too with my old shots. :)

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« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2014, 23:19 »
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if there is a new site  opening up other possibilities
to a market already as pointed out by many here, saturation point  ms.

the stock industry seem pretty stable, if people start buying from new small sites it just means they will buy less from elsewhere, it's more or less like a sum zero game at the moment.

we have to wait and see.
i don't think new small sites have any chance to emerge right now unless they're backed by millions of $ to be spent in advertising, see the many 500px and similar sites that are still struggling to make steady sales.

we should not forget the real goal of these startups is NOT to make real profits but to gather a large enough customer base in order to be sold to the next VC and shareholder.


« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2014, 01:22 »
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if there is a new site  opening up other possibilities
to a market already as pointed out by many here, saturation point  ms.

the stock industry seem pretty stable, if people start buying from new small sites it just means they will buy less from elsewhere, it's more or less like a sum zero game at the moment.

we have to wait and see.
i don't think new small sites have any chance to emerge right now unless they're backed by millions of $ to be spent in advertising, see the many 500px and similar sites that are still struggling to make steady sales.

we should not forget the real goal of these startups is NOT to make real profits but to gather a large enough customer base in order to be sold to the next VC and shareholder.

It might be a zero sum game as far as buyers go, but if I can move a sale from a site where I get 3-35% to a site where I get 50-70% I consider that a big plus, especially if I get to set the prices too.

I think some sites want to make a real go and some want to be bought out - unfortunately we can't really tell ahead of time.

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« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2014, 05:40 »
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It might be a zero sum game as far as buyers go, but if I can move a sale from a site where I get 3-35% to a site where I get 50-70% I consider that a big plus, especially if I get to set the prices too.

I think some sites want to make a real go and some want to be bought out - unfortunately we can't really tell ahead of time.

the moral of the story hasn't changed much .... no matter the market fluctuations and the oversupply, you can only survive in this biz if you've a big portfolio, anything else has been discussed to death and for sure there are some ways to maximize a bit the sales here and there but they're no big deal, a big portfolio is still king and the only proven way to stay afloat.

« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2014, 10:43 »
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...i don't think new small sites have any chance to emerge right now unless they're backed by millions of $ to be spent in advertising, see the many 500px and similar sites that are still struggling to make steady sales.

we should not forget the real goal of these startups is NOT to make real profits but to gather a large enough customer base in order to be sold to the next VC and shareholder.

Creative Market was my #3 earner last month, well ahead of DT and FT. They're still new and small in some regards, but they're showing some big potential in earnings. Granted that's in vectors at the moment, but hopefully photo sales will pick up as well.

I don't get the feeling that CM is waiting for the next VC, shareholder, buyer, etc. They were already acquired by Autodesk, and nothing really has changed for us, other than that they have some additional resources behind them. Definitely doesn't seem like a startup built with the end goal of just dumping it.

« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2014, 13:32 »
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Don't know if CM still does this, but when I started with them last year they sent me my first dollar earned in the mail with a note from the the founder.



Might seem like a small gesture to some, but I like companies that take a minute to connect with contributors.

« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2014, 13:39 »
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Don't know if CM still does this, but when I started with them last year they sent me my first dollar earned in the mail with a note from the the founder.



Might seem like a small gesture to some, but I like companies that take a minute to connect with contributors.


EmberMike, was that taken out of ur earning? or it was a bonus? :D
seriously, it is indeed a good gesture, especially these days when all u gets is double-talk
from officials. bravo, n let's hope they remain that way
even after they get to the top bracket  ;)

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« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2014, 14:04 »
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wow, surprising, you must have been one of their early birds ?

on the other side it means their startup is still so small their CEO has lots of time in his hands for such things and really cares about their first suppliers.

« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2014, 13:51 »
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wow, surprising, you must have been one of their early birds?...

As far as I can find in searching, as of at least May they were still doing this. So I don't think it's an early-bird thing.

« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2014, 13:56 »
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wow, surprising, you must have been one of their early birds ?

on the other side it means their startup is still so small their CEO has lots of time in his hands for such things and really cares about their first suppliers.

yes, n a good moral to this story is support them to bring them to #1 but..
keep them hungry, so they won't start to be like the "other biggies" who r now $cr@wing
those who made them #1  #2 ;)

« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2014, 05:51 »
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It's kind of sad how CM just throws the contributors out into the wild when it comes to rules about protecting yourself from copyright/trademark worries in the stock image market.

https://creativemarket.com/discussions/889-PHOTOS-Trademarks-Intellectual-Property-Copyrights-Problem

No sales of my photo packs yet.  Disappointing.

« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2014, 12:57 »
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I have a very small port. or food images over there and have sold one image in about 3 weeks. They are small so who knows what will happen but the percentages are decent so even if you set the price at what SS or IS would sell your image at, you make more when they sell. (If I guess I should say) Time will tell if they are going to be anything.

« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2014, 05:25 »
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FYI, I've disabled all my people images from CM, as I've decided the "Simple License" is too simple for content involving models.


« Reply #67 on: November 22, 2014, 05:08 »
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Honestly, I don't know how they get away with selling this stuff under the "simple license" as RF.
https://creativemarket.com/arcangelofiore/79054-iPhone-6-PSD-%E2%80%A2-Mockup-all-in-one
https://creativemarket.com/Medialoot/90077-iPhone-6-In-Hand-PSD-Mockup
https://creativemarket.com/show.it.better/55848-7-iMac-photo-mockups
https://creativemarket.com/caiocall/107734-Mockup-Iphone-6-Real-Mockup-4

This whole "mockup" section is really weird.  There's some really neat collections of cut out objects to do things with, but then there's just pictures of "anything" you can put your "design" on to.

« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2014, 08:07 »
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Sean, I don't know if understood you correctly, but I think selling those "iphone" etc mockups is a win-win situation for everyone. I don't think Apple gives much about if people make mockups of their devices. Free marketing.

« Reply #69 on: November 22, 2014, 09:28 »
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Sean, I don't know if understood you correctly, but I think selling those "iphone" etc mockups is a win-win situation for everyone. I don't think Apple gives much about if people make mockups of their devices. Free marketing.

The problem is, there's no requirement they only be used as "mockups".  Everything on CM comes with the same RF commercial license.

Buffalo Bill

« Reply #70 on: November 22, 2014, 11:46 »
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Too  loose for me! Heck even the dpc program on ft is better ran! Which we all know how we feel about that one. Better to pass on them and join canva!

« Reply #71 on: November 23, 2014, 07:51 »
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Sean, I don't know if understood you correctly, but I think selling those "iphone" etc mockups is a win-win situation for everyone. I don't think Apple gives much about if people make mockups of their devices. Free marketing.

The problem is, there's no requirement they only be used as "mockups".  Everything on CM comes with the same RF commercial license.

Yes, that's true. Maybe there should be a "mockup up" license.

« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2015, 13:23 »
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I opened a shop at Creative Market recently. I like the concept, but of course I also see a lot of problems and potential future problems. What's gonna happen when they have 50000 contributors? Competition will push everything down to 2 dollars and you have to sell bundles with 5000 images to stand out...

I've also noticed that a handful of contributors seem to dominate the search results, even though there are 7000 contributors. I understand that CM want to promote the best sellers but it seems a bit extreme at the moment.

And why isn't the site using responsive design? Most designers are using high res monitors that could fit six columns of images instead of three. Annoying. And is it really a good idea to allow text on the preview images when the image description is right below the picture? It's pretty much the same text twice.

I also have a question for people who have been selling at CM for a while. What's you download/view ratio?

And lastly, shouldn't Creative Market have their own part of this forum?

« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2015, 13:54 »
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I also have a question for people who have been selling at CM for a while. What's you download/view ratio?

Just glancing over my sales, at a very rough estimate I'd say it's around a 1 sale per 100 views on average.

Shelma1

« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2015, 14:13 »
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I've bought a few images from there, so I get their emails all the time now. Kind of sad to see them giving away tons of free stuff every week, and huge image packs offered for next to nothing. People offering 500 icons for five bucks when each could be sold separately at SS, for example. I'm afraid from a buyer POV it is a race to the bottom.


 

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