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Title: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: leaf on November 30, 2013, 23:24
Here's the link to the poll for those who forget
http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?page=microstockmonthlysurvey (http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?page=microstockmonthlysurvey)

For me, Fotolia came up quite a bit and Shutterstock was down a little in terms of % of overall income.  iStock came up a few% as well.  Overall earnings were up on last year Nov, and slightly up on last month (oct)... about in relation to uploads - so in that regards, earings are about the same.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Anyka on December 01, 2013, 01:59
Done!
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Mellimage on December 01, 2013, 02:10
Voted too.

Overall, this November was just at the same level as last November. Just this November, I have Stocksy in the Mix - which means all micros performed worse than last year. Nevertheless, Shutterstock came in best overall this month (39%), Stocksy (29%)came in second, Fotolia came in third 17% DT and 123rf were at the bottom with 9 and 6% respectively. In terms of RPD/RPI Stocksy performed best, 123rf worst.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: disorderly on December 01, 2013, 02:15
November was good to me.  Up 8% over October despite being one day shorter.  Up 22% over November last year.  Year over year was up 9%.

Shutterstock was up 11% from October at 42% of my total.  #2 123RF was up 4% at 23%.  #3 iStock was up 59% at 11%.  #4 Deposit was close behind, up 90% at 9%.  #5 PhotoDune was down 15% at 5%.  Dreamstime, CanStock, and BigStock were well down, each bringing in around 2%.  The rest barely registered.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Beppe Grillo on December 01, 2013, 02:28
Enough good month
But I can't say how much till iStock communicates the November PP sales…

Shutterstock > Very good
Fotolia > incredibly good (for Fotolia) BME
iStock………… > waiting PP…………
Photodune > good
Dreamstime…… > dreams what??
Bigstock > bad
123RF > bad
…………
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mayaartist on December 01, 2013, 02:51
Bad month for me SS down second consecutive month. And other sites down a bit as well. I stopped producing new images in October. And almost straight away my sales was going down. Basically, I was expecting a longer life for my images. Since I've been working for about 2 years till October.     
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on December 01, 2013, 03:06
... Basically, I was expecting a longer life for my images. ...

For various reasons (having to do with the rest of my life, not stock or agencies) I have produced very little new stock this year, but I had a BME at Shutterstock and within a dollar of a BME at Dreamstime. Images can have a very long shelf life but it does depend a bit on the type of image.

This time of year, for me, is heavily skewed towards Christmas with a good sprinkling of Caribbean beaches as the weather gets awful in the northern hemisphere. If you don't have much for the seasonal demand, perhaps that's more the issue than a short life for your images.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mayaartist on December 01, 2013, 03:31
I think you are right Jo Ann Snover,

The only thing is that last year October and November was my Best Month on SS.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Ron on December 01, 2013, 03:35
Wasnt there already a thread open on Nov earnings? Is this the official one?

-35.28%   To previous month
-35.28%   To previous BME
32.61%   To Nov 2012

Istock $85 with 32 files - BME October

123 - BME dls / tied BME $$
CanStockPhoto - 4 ELs - BME in $$ (108$)

Symbiostock 1 sale
FAA - my second earner fell dead in November - 0 sales

PD, DP and FT same as last month, not worth mentioning

Overall. November is a month to forget. Really bad month. Expecting December to be worse if I have to believe last years stats for December.

BUT..... Istock can change all that if it does the same for October
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: spike on December 01, 2013, 05:11
BME (+33.4%)

All the agencies are doing better, except BigStock. I will most likely stop uploading there, as it is just not worth it. Pond5 was a nice surprise this month, as well as a one RM sale at alamy.

Overall, I am quite pleased. I hope December will be nice too, but I don't exepct a BME.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: fotoVoyager on December 01, 2013, 06:11
iStock exclusive.

Compared to:

November 2012: $ -7% DL - 20%

Cannot compare to years before 2012 because those records have disappeared.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: cobalt on December 01, 2013, 06:28
My income was about the same as in October without really uploading any thing new. SS grew in downloads by 45% (not royalties)  over October with seasonal images selling well and without even uploading any new files in November. On istock my downloads have increased by 55% compared to November 2012, but my income is 80% less of what it used to be.

I still have small portfolios, 202 on pond5 up to 670 on deposit. SS and Fotolia around 530 files. istock has 3500.

And yet even with 530 files SS is already earning nearly one third of my istock income (without PP).

Overall my income is about 20% of what I would consider a minimum living wage. But I am still very pleased with the results, especially on the agencies that already have millions of files and get thousands every day. How do the customers find me with such a small portfolio?

So I am very confident that 2014 will be a good year.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Anyka on December 01, 2013, 07:22
I expected to worst after October, but I am fairly happy with November.  Overall down 8%, and this was mainly due to NO sales at Alamy, 50% down at Rodeo, 20% down at Dreamstime and 60% at GLO  (all compared to November 2012).

SS did well in downloads and very well in SOD's, but due to a total lack of EL's, I ended up at minus 8%.

Totally unexpected :
Istock - was a super surprise because of the increased October's PP
Fotolia went UP 1% compared to November 2013 (while all other months in 2013 were down more than 15%).

Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Mantis on December 01, 2013, 07:50
SS up due to a 75 dl but the big surprise, I mean worthless surprise, is to see Fotolia  tank to lower than photodune. Month over month ft gets worse and their rejections go higher and higher. I only hang on at this point due to the volume I have there and the hope they get purchased by someone with better performance and reputation.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: ShadySue on December 01, 2013, 07:52
iS: 4th BME  ;D
iStock (only) (weeks 1 and 3 'average for nowadays', weeks 2 and 4 very good!):
compared to Oct 2013: dls +10%; $$  +c60% (2 ELs, one substantial)
compared to Nov 2012: dls -25%, $$ +13%
Compared to BME (Nov 2008): dls -70%; $$ -16%
Only the second month this year which has been higher (and in both cases, substantially higher) than last year, so still projecting to be down c13% year on year.
Still almost nothing from 2013 selling, and very little other than editorial from 2012 and 2011. OTOH, several old files from 2007/8 with 0 and <5 previous sales selling. Despite the $$ hike I'm still really demotivated to specially make fresh material to upload there - yet again, one file which was downloaded within a couple of days has been 'rewarded' by sinking below 1000 on its top keyword (as I ordered it and as currently ordered) in both best match and FM - doomed never to recover.

Getty (via iStock)(October): 6 sales, $41.18 total  :(
Alamy: 4 sales, $85.18 net  :)
FAA: 0



Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: stocked on December 01, 2013, 11:35
Dreamstime is now less than 10% of SS for me, I guess their ridiculous weekly subscription which giving their contributors a maximum of about 10% commission is now paying it tolls.
I'm pretty sure I will stop to submit to them in the new year
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: cthoman on December 01, 2013, 11:58
Strange month. In the things I thought I'd never say category, CanStockPhoto out earned SS. Only by a couple dollars, but I still had to say it.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: asmai on December 01, 2013, 12:13
Bad month, 30% down from October. Historically it had always been my best month of the year with about +20% over October every year before.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: pancaketom on December 01, 2013, 12:41
Not too bad for this year, but down from last Nov, mostly because Alamy was less. SS had over 1$ RPD (not a whole lot of sales, but a good mix of regular, OD, EL, and SOD sales. (for contrast IS w/o PP rpd was about .55 - but not a valid statistical sample). BS was a BME (but still pretty small - mostly one EL). DT seemed to be even more segregated into periods of subs, regular sales, and no sales. The total was ok though. Veer was pretty weak, but at least it wasn't negative like October.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mlwinphoto on December 01, 2013, 14:15
SS: BME, not even close.

iStock:  I don't bother checking until the PP figures come in as regular sales have basically stopped, or at least the $ has what with Main pricing and a 15% royalty (14 RC's shy of a whopping 16% royalty rate but doubt that I'll make it by the end of the year.).
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: tickstock on December 01, 2013, 16:11
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Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: sdeva on December 01, 2013, 17:26
Mixed month leaning to the negative side:

SS and DT (usually 2 of my best) both underperformed to varying degrees.  FT did ok with one very good week.  PD about average. 123 RF steady on sales (average-ish month) but the RPD impacts performance and not in a healthy way. Bigstock no increase and RPD is dismal. DP new account with some sales almost daily but again too sub driven for sales satisfaction. Canstock poor. Veer, GL, Alamy nothing or close to nothing. IS was ok relative to reduced portfolio and almost no new uploads this year.

All in all - I'm still running hard but staying in the same spot - as I upload away without an appreciable return in sales to justify the effort.  ::)  Have therefore started to rationalize my time a bit more as far as new uploads to some of the regularly low performing sites.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: lisafx on December 01, 2013, 17:49
Up a modest 3% from October, and November was yet another month of -20% on same month prior year.  This seems to be a consistent trend. 

Once again, downloads were up or about the same on most sites and earnings were what showed a dramatic loss. 

I guess this is the "new normal" for me.  I can't manage to produce images fast enough to compensate for the downward trend on prices and royalties. 

Only site showing real growth for me is 123RF.  Very happy I stayed with them. 

I did the calculations by zeroing out PP earnings for the comparison months.  If PP comes in strong like last month it will improve the picture somewhat. 
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: gostwyck on December 02, 2013, 07:36
The surprisingly high PP sales in October completely changed my expectations of that month from a 3% drop to what turned out to be an increase of 8% (compared to Oct 2012).

It therefore feels a bit early to be definitive about November. However, unless the PP for Nov are off the scale, then last month is looking very bad for me. SS, IS & FT were all well down whilst DT and BigStock were the same. Even if the PP for Nov is similar to Oct then I will still be about 8% down compared to Nov 2012.

As I mentioned in a previous post I find it difficult to believe that the massive increase in PP sales over the last couple of months is all 'new money' into the industry. I wonder if the recent success of the PP will eventually transpire to be at the cost of sales elsewhere?
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: ShadySue on December 02, 2013, 07:46
As I mentioned in a previous post I find it difficult to believe that the massive increase in PP sales over the last couple of months is all 'new money' into the industry. I wonder if the recent success of the PP will eventually transpire to be at the cost of sales elsewhere?
The fact that buyers are being marshalled towards TS would seem to indicate that. This last batch may have been previous buyers who hadn't bought at iS for a time, so maybe no loss; but we don't know if active buyers have been channelled again too, as they were at the launch of TS.
OTOH, people were also noting an upturn of better-than-plain-sub sales there.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Pixart on December 02, 2013, 11:31
Not a great month, DT & SS still strong enough.

One thing I did notice was that for the first time in months, if not years, I sold more credit downloads than subs at FT.  Usually subs sell triple.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: tickstock on December 02, 2013, 12:13
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Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: ShadySue on December 02, 2013, 12:20
Hmmm, my October Getty RPD was <$7 per sale. I probably can't deduce anything from that either as the numbers are so small, but certainly more tiny-value sales from Getty and only a few largish ones over the year.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Freedom on December 02, 2013, 12:30
Don't know what to think.

For IS, September was my WMY, October BMY, November was below average again. October Getty RPD is below average at about 13.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: oboy on December 02, 2013, 18:52
Overall a very good month. Only 3% down compared to October, but 37% compared to last year November.

Best four: Shutterstock, Zazzle, DepositPhotos, FineArtAmercia

Blog Post: http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2013/12/stock-photography-sales-statistic.html (http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2013/12/stock-photography-sales-statistic.html)
List of agencies I work with: http://stock.hlehnerer.com/SA.html (http://stock.hlehnerer.com/SA.html)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201311px590_zps74d3e032.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201311px590_zps74d3e032.jpg.html)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201311top590px_zpsadd58e28.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201311top590px_zpsadd58e28.jpg.html)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201311total590px_zpsf2c3dd9a.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201311total590px_zpsf2c3dd9a.jpg.html)

(Referral income included in this statistic)
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: wordplanet on December 02, 2013, 19:07
BME at SS and DT for November, DT was my best agency this month (when I did the poll I used the numbers I had gotten on 11/29 but when I checked final numbers for the month it was up even more beating on SS which hasn't happened often)
One sale at Alamy netted me $39.26 Discouraging
One large direct RM stock license to a publisher earned me nearly 3x what I made last November

So, in order:

Direct stock licensing
DT
SS
Alamy
iStock (will beat Alamy if PP sales are equal to those from October)
Fotolia
Bigstock

For the first time in a single month I've made payouts from nearly all sites at once : SS, DT, Alamy and iStock

Up 364% overall from last November and up 106% if I just compare how I did on the micros last November to this November, so certainly trending in the right direction.

For the year, with one month to go, Alamy is down 50%, SS is up 10% (about even to the new work I've added), DT is up 70% and has been showing a strong upward trend despite countless sub sales of my Level 4 and 5 images, iStock is up 100% (with nearly 2 months of missing earnings since 90% of my earning there are usually PP these days); overall stock photo sales are up over 100% with growth in direct stock photo licensing accounting for a nice chunk of that growth.

After I got my PP sales on iStock for October, iStock actually beat out sales on DT for October (by $3 and came within $5 of my earnings on SS for October - all three were the closest they've ever been in October).
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: michaeldb on December 03, 2013, 00:37
Strange month. In the things I thought I'd never say category, CanStockPhoto out earned SS...
Lackluster month for me, except for CanStockPhoto. It was my 3rd best site for Nov, outselling both 123RF and Fotolia by over $100 each - that never happened before. CanStockPhoto was way above its sales for Oct 2013 and Nov 2012. A BME by over $50.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: nicku on December 03, 2013, 02:12
After an disastrous October....November was even worse :(

SS decreased dramatically; and none of the other big 5 were above average.....

what's happening???? two months that supposed to be be the best months of the year went terrible wrong for me. :(((  :-\
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: sobm on December 03, 2013, 03:01
Strange month. In the things I thought I'd never say category, CanStockPhoto out earned SS...
Lackluster month for me, except for CanStockPhoto. It was my 3rd best site for Nov, outselling both 123RF and Fotolia by over $100 each - that never happened before. CanStockPhoto was way above its sales for Oct 2013 and Nov 2012. A BME by over $50.
Canstock treats us fair, every time i saw those 5, 2.5 commssions there, that let me think about how come our works can get such high prices and commssions on Canstock but others can't?why??????
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Ron on December 03, 2013, 04:42
CanStockPhoto was my second earner for November....
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: lucato on December 03, 2013, 05:15
IMHO in this survey regarding iStock should be split in 3 due PP sales amount is given later and sometimes EL too. So we would have:

iStock
iStock PP
iStock EL

It also would be great to see how are they doing. ;0)
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Jogga0 on December 03, 2013, 06:34
Happy with my November - first month since going photo and video independent that I have seen a revenue increase compared to 2012. IS audio sales pretty solid and the odd video sale from FT, DP and Revo, which is encouraging. SS and FT both up and BME, but didn't sell anything on Alamy or GL.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: ShadySue on December 03, 2013, 06:52
IMHO in this survey regarding iStock should be split in 3 due PP sales amount is given later and sometimes EL too. So we would have:

iStock
iStock PP
iStock EL

It also would be great to see how are they doing. ;0)

ELs are always, barring bugs, reported in real time AFAIK. In fact, even when stats were down, ELs were showing.
If you showed iS EL sales separately you'd have to divvy SS into all the SOD, ELs etc.
There could be an argument for noting iStock-Getty sales separately, as they were vaunted as giving a boost to regular iStock sales, but in fact for some they are propping up iS sales.

Have you reported your November sales yet?
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Metsafile on December 03, 2013, 07:44
November 2013 was good.
Shutterstock was not as dominant with other sites making progress.

30.8 % Shutterstock
18.5 % Alamy (best month)
15.5 % Fotolia
14.2 % Dreamstime (best month)
12.4 % Canstock (best month)
03.9 % 123RF
02.9 % Bigstock
01.6 % DepositPhotos
00.1 % Veer (worst month)
00.1 % Stockfresh
00.0 % GLStockimages
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on December 03, 2013, 10:05
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mike ledray on December 03, 2013, 10:20
Well if I posted my Stock Income, I would be yelled at by various obnoxious people who hide behind screen names and do not post links to their galleries or anything real.
So lets just say Shutterstock - Best Month Ever, Dreamstime -got a payout over the minimum, 123royalty free - ugh (well I only have a few images there anyway), Istock - Negligible (I quite uploading to them years ago and only have a few images there), Lucky Oliver - STOLE MY COMMISSONS and left the building a few years ago, the others I don't even check most of the time.

All in all it was an Awesome Month

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Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Me on December 03, 2013, 10:25
Well if I posted my Stock Income, I would be yelled at by various obnoxious people who hide behind screen names and do not post links to their galleries or anything real.
So lets just say Shutterstock - Best Month Ever, Dreamstime -got a payout over the minimum, 123royalty free - ugh (well I only have a few images there anyway), Istock - Negligible (I quite uploading to them years ago and only have a few images there), Lucky Oliver - STOLE MY COMMISSONS and left the building a few years ago, the others I don't even check most of the time.

All in all it was an Awesome Month

You wouldn't be yelled at Mike, just no-one would believe you
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Ron on December 03, 2013, 10:26
Well if I posted my Stock Income, I would be yelled at by various obnoxious people who hide behind screen names and do not post links to their galleries or anything real.
So lets just say Shutterstock - Best Month Ever, Dreamstime -got a payout over the minimum, 123royalty free - ugh (well I only have a few images there anyway), Istock - Negligible (I quite uploading to them years ago and only have a few images there), Lucky Oliver - STOLE MY COMMISSONS and left the building a few years ago, the others I don't even check most of the time.

All in all it was an Awesome Month
It was already posted on the SS forum you make 10k per month.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Pixart on December 03, 2013, 10:55
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!
I supposed this is answered somewhere else, but Sean, why not SS?  Or are you only submitting video to the other guys perhaps?
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on December 03, 2013, 11:07
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!
I supposed this is answered somewhere else, but Sean, why not SS?  Or are you only submitting video to the other guys perhaps?

I'm trying not to submit to sites that would sell my content by subscription.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on December 03, 2013, 11:13
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!

It's a tough life out in the cold. Sean, does the thought ever cross your mind that protecting your income by avoiding sites with subs has the effect of utterly undermining how much you might make? You could probably pull in 20% of what you used to make at iS from SS alone, and I have a feeling that would put your $100 from 123 in the shade.

I'm not keeping accurate records site-by-site (it seems like a lot of work for no return) but I do know that last month was about 25% below my BME, whenever that might have been. Probably a couple of years back now.
As I've been pretty inactive for a lot of this year, for one reason or another, I suppose it's not too bad. I'm trying to push a lot more content through now in the hope that it might pay me one day.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Ron on December 03, 2013, 11:25
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!
I wonder what the Stocksy share is? Are you not allowed to share?
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Pixart on December 03, 2013, 11:39
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!
I supposed this is answered somewhere else, but Sean, why not SS?  Or are you only submitting video to the other guys perhaps?

I'm trying not to submit to sites that would sell my content by subscription.
I'm not trying to be a smartaleck here, wonder if you have done some evaluating that is more scientific than mine!  But DP and 123 also sell subs, and the RPD was for me at those two sites about 75% lower than SS's.  At least it was when I submitted to 123, I dropped in January and may not be current on what is happening there.  Those two sites were particularly bad, and after DP gave me $2.64 for an EL last week I intend to drop them also.  (Pretty soon I won't have anyone left LOL)  I really understand not wanting to give your library to a subs site, but if you make 100 at DP you should make $1000 at SS (I make about $10 there for every $100 at SS).  Sorry, I know you've already evaluated this already.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on December 03, 2013, 11:42
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!
I supposed this is answered somewhere else, but Sean, why not SS?  Or are you only submitting video to the other guys perhaps?

I'm trying not to submit to sites that would sell my content by subscription.
I'm not trying to be a smartaleck here, wonder if you have done some evaluating that is more scientific than mine!  But DP and 123 also sell subs, and the RPD was for me at those two sites about 75% lower than SS's.  At least it was when I submitted to 123, I dropped in January and may not be current on what is happening there.  Those two sites were particularly bad, and after DP gave me $2.64 for an EL last week I intend to drop them also.  (Pretty soon I won't have anyone left LOL)  I really understand not wanting to give your library to a subs site, but if you make 100 at DP you should make $1000 at SS (I make about $10 there for every $100 at SS).  Sorry, I know you've already evaluated this already.

I don't sell subs on DP or 123.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on December 03, 2013, 11:44
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!

It's a tough life out in the cold. Sean, does the thought ever cross your mind that protecting your income by avoiding sites with subs has the effect of utterly undermining how much you might make? You could probably pull in 20% of what you used to make at iS from SS alone, and I have a feeling that would put your $100 from 123 in the shade.

I'm not keeping accurate records site-by-site (it seems like a lot of work for no return) but I do know that last month was about 25% below my BME, whenever that might have been. Probably a couple of years back now.
As I've been pretty inactive for a lot of this year, for one reason or another, I suppose it's not too bad. I'm trying to push a lot more content through now in the hope that it might pay me one day.

I'm not trying to protect my income, in the sense that I think not selling my content on subscription sites will make people want to go shop for it elsewhere (they won't).  At this point, I'd just rather my content was licensed by people that assign it some more value than another item on the $5 buffet.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Pixart on December 03, 2013, 11:45
Ahhhh... I'm impressed.  That's very good for you, I'm glad to hear that they are taking care of you after the BS you went through last year.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: thepoeticimage on December 03, 2013, 11:56
I know I must be an anomaly, but frequently my income from istock is higher than it is from Shutterstock, even though I have more photos on Shutterstock (2000+) than on istock (1600+). For the year, the sales for the two are virtually equal . . . . Also, my sales on Fotolia are pitiful, despite the fact I have more than 2000 photos there, too. I just don't understand it: my sales used to be quite good at Fotolia, and now almost every month I make more money on Dreamstime, 123rf, and even Canstock.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mike ledray on December 03, 2013, 12:02
Well if I posted my Stock Income, I would be yelled at by various obnoxious people who hide behind screen names and do not post links to their galleries or anything real.
So lets just say Shutterstock - Best Month Ever, Dreamstime -got a payout over the minimum, 123royalty free - ugh (well I only have a few images there anyway), Istock - Negligible (I quite uploading to them years ago and only have a few images there), Lucky Oliver - STOLE MY COMMISSONS and left the building a few years ago, the others I don't even check most of the time.

All in all it was an Awesome Month

You wouldn't be yelled at Mike, just no-one would believe you


:)

Ouch!
Your "Scorching" responses are so hot your BURNING UP MY COMPUTER!
Stop it!

LOL

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Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: w7lwi on December 03, 2013, 13:10
Well if I posted my Stock Income, I would be yelled at by various obnoxious people who hide behind screen names and do not post links to their galleries or anything real.
So lets just say Shutterstock - Best Month Ever, Dreamstime -got a payout over the minimum, 123royalty free - ugh (well I only have a few images there anyway), Istock - Negligible (I quite uploading to them years ago and only have a few images there), Lucky Oliver - STOLE MY COMMISSONS and left the building a few years ago, the others I don't even check most of the time.

All in all it was an Awesome Month
It was already posted on the SS forum you make 10k per month.

Come on Ron.  If you really read Jeff's post, you'd know the $10K figure was not microstock income, but income from his photo booth and related activities.  He apparently did hit the 100,000 download number, which is not unique, but is sufficiently rare that it warrants a congratulation.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mlwinphoto on December 03, 2013, 13:11
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!

It's a tough life out in the cold. Sean, does the thought ever cross your mind that protecting your income by avoiding sites with subs has the effect of utterly undermining how much you might make? You could probably pull in 20% of what you used to make at iS from SS alone, and I have a feeling that would put your $100 from 123 in the shade.

I'm not keeping accurate records site-by-site (it seems like a lot of work for no return) but I do know that last month was about 25% below my BME, whenever that might have been. Probably a couple of years back now.
As I've been pretty inactive for a lot of this year, for one reason or another, I suppose it's not too bad. I'm trying to push a lot more content through now in the hope that it might pay me one day.

I'm not trying to protect my income, in the sense that I think not selling my content on subscription sites will make people want to go shop for it elsewhere (they won't).  At this point, I'd just rather my content was licensed by people that assign it some more value than another item on the $5 buffet.

$5 may be stretching it.   ;)
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: w7lwi on December 03, 2013, 13:28
Down about 20% overall from last year.

SS = 54%
DT = 25.5%
123 = 8.2%
IS = 6.3%
BS = 2.5%
CanStockPhoto = 2.2%
V  = 0.8%
DP = 0.5%
GL = 0.0%
AL = 0.0%
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mike ledray on December 03, 2013, 15:12
Well if I posted my Stock Income, I would be yelled at by various obnoxious people who hide behind screen names and do not post links to their galleries or anything real.
So lets just say Shutterstock - Best Month Ever, Dreamstime -got a payout over the minimum, 123royalty free - ugh (well I only have a few images there anyway), Istock - Negligible (I quite uploading to them years ago and only have a few images there), Lucky Oliver - STOLE MY COMMISSONS and left the building a few years ago, the others I don't even check most of the time.

All in all it was an Awesome Month
It was already posted on the SS forum you make 10k per month.

Come on Ron.  If you really read Jeff's post, you'd know the $10K figure was not microstock income, but income from his photo booth and related activities.  He apparently did hit the 100,000 download number, which is not unique, but is sufficiently rare that it warrants a congratulation.

The 100,000 (now +) download milestone is 100% correct.
That is just 1 thing I am quite proud of.
I know others have reached that # before me, and I am very glad for them and anyone who can make $$$ at this business.
I wish everyone who puts in the Time, Energy and Dedication it takes to hit these #'s all the very best.
It's not easy but it is possible
There are a few rabble rousers who never have anything nice to say, due to jealousy and lack of original ideas etc. they often like to hide behind screen names and not put their galleries or real stats up  due to the ever popular No and Low sales

but then again

I am the best

Thanks
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Ron on December 03, 2013, 18:10
You forgot to pimp an image
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: mike ledray on December 03, 2013, 18:27
You forgot to pimp an image

LOL!!
See I knew you like my "Pimping" images
You miss it, come on admit it.
You love to see what Ill "Pimp" next
:)

besides All my "pimped" images fit which ever topic I am talking about at the moment, pretty nifty huh?
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Me on December 04, 2013, 00:53
You forgot to pimp an image

LOL!!
See I knew you like my "Pimping" images
You miss it, come on admit it.
You love to see what Ill "Pimp" next
:)

besides All my "pimped" images fit which ever topic I am talking about at the moment, pretty nifty huh?

He won't bother now because he knows Tyler will remove them, as he did above in this thread
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: lightphoto on December 05, 2013, 14:53
Overall - BME by a big margin (38%).  up 120% from Nov '12
SS - BME by a big margin - quadrupled Nov '12, and up 60% from Oct '13
iS - BMY - best month since Oct '12.  Main iS sales still low, but partner sales BME (I count partner sales from Oct in Nov, since that's when they are reported)  partner sales more than tripled main sales.
DT - steadily unexciting
123RF - unsteadily unexciting
Alamy - nothing yet (1 1/2 months in)
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: asiseeit on December 09, 2013, 23:45
About the same as last month.  Majority of income from Stocksy.  Otherwise:
DP - $100
Pond - $75
Self - $35
GLStock - $25
and the newcomer:
123RF - $100

Whoopie!

It's a tough life out in the cold. Sean, does the thought ever cross your mind that protecting your income by avoiding sites with subs has the effect of utterly undermining how much you might make? You could probably pull in 20% of what you used to make at iS from SS alone, and I have a feeling that would put your $100 from 123 in the shade.

I'm not keeping accurate records site-by-site (it seems like a lot of work for no return) but I do know that last month was about 25% below my BME, whenever that might have been. Probably a couple of years back now.
As I've been pretty inactive for a lot of this year, for one reason or another, I suppose it's not too bad. I'm trying to push a lot more content through now in the hope that it might pay me one day.

I'm not trying to protect my income, in the sense that I think not selling my content on subscription sites will make people want to go shop for it elsewhere (they won't).  At this point, I'd just rather my content was licensed by people that assign it some more value than another item on the $5 buffet.

You can opt out of video sub sales on SS btw.
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: green machine on December 11, 2013, 14:00
1. BME for 2nd month running on SS, helped by 7 EDs in november
2. DT down 30% (on average down 20% on 2012)
3. FT steady (on average up 20% on 2012)
4. DP down 50%

Altogether oct was my BME and nov my 2nd BME out of 60 months of stats.

BS + Veer + 123RF next payout estimated around 2050
Title: Re: Nov 2013 Microstock Income - How was your month?
Post by: Shelma1 on December 11, 2013, 14:10
BME on Shutterstock, not sure about iStock yet. Amazingly I got a payment from Veer, which was a big surprise, because I stopped uploading there more than a year ago. I sometimes forget I have a few files there.