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Shutterstock search change??

Started by gyllens, November 22, 2016, 16:05

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Smithore

Quote from: Lukeruk on November 24, 2016, 20:55
No mixed images in my catalog manager, but sales are 50% down since Monday morning.

Yes they are, but you have to go around the 10/14 pages before seeing the very messy mix

gyllens

The place is a right mess! right now faulty sums are showing up and I am proud to have earnt  close to 90K this month!!  I mean whats going on over there?

mopske

Went from 20-30 sales a day to 5 or less a day....... :o Horrible!
I'm a loyal contributor since 2011.

Minsc

I'm seeing a drop of about 15-20%. I'm still not sure if it's related to the day after the holidays or the search change. I'll have to wait a day or 2 to know for sure.

I did a search, and the search results are the same as always in my region (West Coast, United States). If there is a search change, it must be in another region of the world...maybe Europe or Asia.

dpimborough

Quote from: mopske on November 28, 2016, 20:27
Went from 20-30 sales a day to 5 or less a day....... :o Horrible!
I'm a loyal contributor since 2011.

Loyalty means nothing in this business  :(

Micha91

#80
Hi, I noticed strong sales drop since monday 21  >:(. I still cant find out where the problem is? Search engine shows results as usual (i'm from Europe). Maybe is caused by upcoming holiday season, Who knows?

Minsc

I'm definitely seeing a pattern now. There is a drop about 15-20% in downloads. Search results seem to be consistent in the (West Coast) US and Europe, so maybe they made a change in Asia or elsewhere.

I'm very confident to say that my FT earnings will easily overtake my SS earnings for November.

gyllens

well the search that we see is actually not that interesting since in most cases depending on continent there is a Geo-search and also of course the buyers will see a different search from what we the members see.
Thats why most of the time we find some of our own files on lets say one to three pages thinking wow what a great placement. Buyers comes along and see the same files on something like page 10.

Not long ago I tried it out and asked a friend ( buyer ) in South-Africa to look up a file that I saw on page-1 he found the same file on page 11 and using the same search-word of course.

Dumc


etudiante_rapide

Quote from: gyllens on November 28, 2016, 20:08
The place is a right mess! right now faulty sums are showing up and I am proud to have earnt  close to 90K this month!!  I mean whats going on over there?

lol, i guess it was for the shareholders to spot check all the contributors' earnings...
so when they see yours ... 90K a month
and SNP tenths of thousands
and mine 11 k a month, etc..
they go ... waaaaaaza, this is good vultue picking stock (bad pun)...

Minsc


Dumc


Newsfocus1

Page one, position two here in UK  :)
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Bauman

#88
Quote from: Micha on November 29, 2016, 11:41
"Hi, I noticed strong sales drop since monday 21  >:(. I still cant find out where the problem is? Search engine shows results as usual (i'm from Europe). Maybe is caused by upcoming holiday season, Who knows?"

Yes, same here ... Very strange.

I notice a 40/50% drop in download in the last ten days ...

I'm from Europe, contributor from 2011.

In 6 years November will be first month with Shutterstock under 50% of my total earnings.

Stickystock

My sales also fell big time since last week. -100 downloads a day. At first I thought it had to do with Thanksgiving but now I am afraid that it will take longer. Maybe they just mixed things up to give their portfolio a fresh look. Would make sense to me. Hope not and sales will come back soon. Time will tell.

New images do sell quicker now like they used to so I will just keep making new ones and hope old sales come back soon! :)

kaboom

Im seeing about 50% drop since 22 November. Typically, I would have 100+ DLs on a working day so I can see a difference. Im also in Europe, contributor since 2011.

Most of my best sellers are about 2-3 years old, I have very few files from the last six months - so I cant complain, I should have done more new work...  :-\  It may be an algorithm change - some people are seeing increase in sale in the same period. Hopefully it will swing back at some point  :)

pkphotos

I think they want to pay their executives big bonuses for xmas, but don't want to dip into shareholder money. Therefore they decided to only report 10% of sales for a time

Desintegrator

The only thing I see is that sales are skewed more to new images again, like it was 7-8 years ago. Until a month ago it was frightening that new images didn't sell at all. In this last week it turned around, the frightening thing is that sales would be terrible without my images uploaded since this summer.

AlessandraRC

Quote from: gyllens on November 22, 2016, 16:05
Anybody experiencing a search-change at SS? because suddenly pictures are selling from my first submission some 12 years back. Its down and out embarrassing they are not even good but terrible!
Surely a change like that and people thats been there for years better prepare themselves for a lousy time indeed.

If you are embarrassed about one of your pictures delete it. The database is not your trash can. Whatever you put in there is to sell.

gyllens

Well honestly I dont know whats happened but the last three days have been astounding! almost 800 dollars in just three days. How often does that happen? all stills no videos!
X-mas is coming early thats for sure.

cathyslife

Quote from: AlessandraRC on November 30, 2016, 16:41
Quote from: gyllens on November 22, 2016, 16:05
Anybody experiencing a search-change at SS? because suddenly pictures are selling from my first submission some 12 years back. Its down and out embarrassing they are not even good but terrible!
Surely a change like that and people thats been there for years better prepare themselves for a lousy time indeed.

If you are embarrassed about one of your pictures delete it. The database is not your trash can. Whatever you put in there is to sell.

Those are the key words. He just said they are selling. If they weren't selling and were "terrible", then I would agree with you. We all need every single penny we can squeeze out of these moneygrubbers.
#boycottShutterstock   #shutterstockBoycott

zorba

Quote from: gyllens on November 22, 2016, 16:05
Anybody experiencing a search-change at SS? because suddenly pictures are selling from my first submission some 12 years back. Its down and out embarrassing they are not even good but terrible!
Surely a change like that and people thats been there for years better prepare themselves for a lousy time indeed.

Not really. I noticed this: it SEEMS (but this is not a verifiable data) that anything has NEVER sold something, sometimes, one time in 2 weeks, even if you don't do anything, sells.

There was some time I wasn't uploading anything. Every 2 weeks something I never sold before had a "first time sale". Something that made me thing they try to sell EVERYTHING at least one time.

It's been two months since I was uploading 20-35 files a day: I have 6-7 "first sales" since 2 weeks ago.

I think there is something in their "stock management" that pushes files with 0 sales "up" to be viewed almost 1 time. My files aren't less embarassing that the new ones.

my 2 cents.

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mojaric

Quote from: Dumc on November 29, 2016, 20:27
Ok, let's test it. I see one of my files on page 1, 2nd position for "popular". Keyword "hare".


same, Italy...very nice wildlife pictures :D

Dumc

Thanks, so I guess, this "geo-location" search is just a conspiracy myth...

YadaYadaYada

Quote from: Dumc on December 01, 2016, 18:15
Thanks, so I guess, this "geo-location" search is just a conspiracy myth...

Maybe? Maybe not? I know that SS sends cookies from what I search and I get ads to match that. Why can't that also match what it shows in search to previous search. If you look, login as a buyer, you will see last viewed images and searches.

They track buyers habits and we aren't buyers, most of us, so we see the same. Somebody else who buys will see different.

Search changed? So what, some will do better some not. Maybe next change I will do better and next after that you will. Can't be good for everybpdy all the time. Not worth the worry and nothing we can do to change that. Find something new to worry and complain about, maybe something we can change?
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