Talking about both editorial photos and videos here. Have both on other sites and they sell.

Photos and videos here...

Just sold an editorial clip on shutterstock with 300 $ so...adobestock if u want to get in poll position you will have to accept editorials, there is no other way

Congrats! And yes, my 3 best sellers in SS and my best seller in iS are all editorial.

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Hello Adobe,

all my Karneval Cologne 2019 will soon be available for sale at pond5 and Shutterstock.

Don't you want content that looks truly local and real?

You are non exclusive, you don't have to take everything...but why leave the contract with CNN and BBC to other companies.

Would it be a bad suggestion if Adobe for ther time only asked us, current contributors, to upload editorials? Would this be unfair to those who do not upload to Adobe? It could be "safer" for the company for now, as they know our style and can review our past work, plus they know our sales volume! If they do not open editorials to everyone, they could very well cope with not having to deal with a flood of people uploading just everything. That might mean longer review times and more server space. Both parts lose money from not being able to submit/accept editorials. Some local events are lost in that way. For example, I justed returned from Venice carnival. Searching for example around stock agencies with live news stock or exclusive ones, I must have been the only one climbing up the Saint Mark's square Campanile (ok, elevator use!) to have panoramic view photos and videos of the stage and event. Would't Adobe want to use and gain money from that? I am sure we can all add our examples of missed Adobe editorial opportunities here! I just do not know if that thing, the suggetion we are trying to do, will only be a paper an employee will forward to its superiors, only to be left in a drawer, or not.

What I think is that they must already understand the whole panorama of accepting or not editorial photos and they are postponing the choice. It is impossible that they are so blind about that.

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The problem is, and this applies to all agencies, that "editorial" has wrongly become a catch all for non-released.

I think there should be three categories:

Fully-released/commercial
Editorial (i.e., truly newsworthy)
Non-released (clips that are NOT newsworthy but contain unreleased people or properties)

Both.  I have roughly 2500 editorial stock images up on other agencies right now, and roughly 550 editorial videos.

And I am early on a 3 month trip covering 7 countries that will produce hundreds more in each category...

Quote from: ODesigns on March 07, 2019, 14:12
The problem is, and this applies to all agencies, that "editorial" has wrongly become a catch all for non-released.

I think there should be three categories:

Fully-released/commercial
Editorial (i.e., truly newsworthy)
Non-released (clips that are NOT newsworthy but contain unreleased people or properties)

Well said, and three types would help buyers, before they search. I have quite a bit of Editorial Only, but shot with permission.

+1 for video

If they are worried about low quality content flodding the site, they could do it in stages.

Only 10 videos/photos a week or per month allowed.

Upload limits force people to make decisions about what they really feel is important.

And then only lift the limits gradually in response to sale success.

And if there is someone they like, they can always change their individual limits.

They are already very picky!

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Both videos and images. Both news and just unreleased. About 20%-30% of my portfolio.

My original question was about the video, obviously. I have a lot of material that is rejected because I do not have the intellectual property of a building or a guy that appears in the background, and very good videos are discarded that could perfectly be editorials. Greetings.

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 06, 2019, 14:14

Thanks everyone for chiming in on this important topic.  Love  and do know that we're always evaluating what can be done to make our service and our contributors more successful.

Out of curiosity, how many people here are talking about video vs photos?

Thanks,
Dennis

Hi all,

Just wanted to chime in again and say thank you for your responses.  A lot of your thinking and suggestions makes a lot of sense.  I will definitely be keeping this in mind and come back to review this thread again.

If any of you are headed to NAB, please be sure to stop by the Adobe booth and introduce yourself!

Dennis

Thank you for taking us seriously!

Quote from: cobalt on March 12, 2019, 08:35
Thank you for taking us seriously!

Honestly, it's my pleasure.  I firmly believe in trying to make everybody successful.  There will always be a push and pull on this but if nothing else, please know that I and many others at Adobe are trying to think about contributors and enabling them for future success.

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 18, 2019, 12:26

Quote from: cobalt on March 12, 2019, 08:35
Thank you for taking us seriously!

Honestly, it's my pleasure.  I firmly believe in trying to make everybody successful.  There will always be a push and pull on this but if nothing else, please know that I and many others at Adobe are trying to think about contributors and enabling them for future success.

Thanks. Push the keywords search in portfolio and better interface.

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+1 for Video

I have a lot of both photos and video. I travel to a lot of remote locations and frequently get content that is used for travel documentaries on other agencies.

Hi Dennis,

Video mostly but also photos.
Come on Adobestock, I think it's time to dive into the Editorial world as well.
It sells.

With or without Editorial...I still love "Everything Adobe".


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Pond 5 says they will begin selling clips through Adobe.  Will this include editorial?  If so, what will the price point be?

Thanks

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 06, 2019, 14:14

Quote from: davidbautista on March 06, 2019, 04:24
Indeed. We are not talking about newsworthy stuff just non released people and property. Also trademarks. That sells a lot in SS...

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Thanks everyone for chiming in on this important topic.  Love the feedback and do know that we're always evaluating what can be done to make our service and our contributors more successful.

Out of curiosity, how many people here are talking about video vs photos?

Thanks,
Dennis

Editorial video would be good from my perspective - its a huge part of sales on P5 and SS.

Hoping to add video to the mix in the future but for now, just stills. I've shot for magazines and newspapers in the NY metro area and have had travel images in Fodor's, DK & Nat Geo books, Smithsonian, Coastal Living and other well-know magazines, dozens of newspapers & (London) Sunday Times magazine cover. More than 50% of those had unreleased people, and in about 20-30%, the scenery was as important to the story as were the people, in others, the crowds themselves were the story. To me, editorial is all about telling a story, whether it's breaking news, or just a quiet moment of real life on some far away shore. it's not an excuse for some random shot where I couldn't get a release. And I am sure that I am not alone.

I like Jasmin's ("cobalt") idea of a limit to start with if you want to open the floodgates but control the flow. I'm primarily an editorial shooter, and travel is a big part of my overall portfolio, so I'd welcome the opportunity to considerably enlarge my tiny Adobe Stock portfolio by uploading those types of images. Maybe do another "contest" and give us a free year of Adobe CC for getting our first 500 editorial images accepted?

Mat has been great at listening to us here and it's nice to see he now has company in making sure the powers that be know what we rabble are thinking.